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SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
October 13 2010 20:48 GMT
#24041
I enjoy playing AP Twisted Fate so much.

And all the commodities that come with it.
Really mad teammates, denying me solo lane, raging at everything I say (And I fucking love to say stuff), and then proceed to dominate.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 13 2010 20:49 GMT
#24042
Malphite's problem is that end game he is so fucking worthless it's pathetic. He's just a walking R button and his R honestly isn't strong enough.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Dave[9]
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2365 Posts
October 13 2010 20:49 GMT
#24043
Do you guys think the hotshot build is outdated for Xin? I've been using it to a lot of success but something doesn't feel right..maybe I just need to get better at creep killing.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=104154&currentpage=316#6317
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
October 13 2010 20:53 GMT
#24044
On October 14 2010 05:48 SCC-Faust wrote:
I enjoy playing AP Twisted Fate so much.

And all the commodities that come with it.
Really mad teammates, denying me solo lane, raging at everything I say (And I fucking love to say stuff), and then proceed to dominate.

Is AP TF still viable? I was rocking that in beta and haven't played since. I would normally take mid lane and win it then gank with ult. I suppose it would also work well in any solo lane.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 13 2010 20:53 GMT
#24045
On October 14 2010 05:49 Dave[9] wrote:
Do you guys think the hotshot build is outdated for Xin? I've been using it to a lot of success but something doesn't feel right..maybe I just need to get better at creep killing.


no i think the opposite. i think with the game moving away from 5 tanks to real gang-bang ranged carries like twitch/kogmaw, xin is going to need less survivability (the way that most of us at TL build him) and more burst damage. i'm not 100% sure on hotshot's build but i know he gets a bunch of attack speed (sotd?) which is going to work well against the new metagame
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 13 2010 20:57 GMT
#24046
Attack speed Xin is what a lot of players build xin nowadays from what I've seen. HSGG's build was essentially "they have armor, now they don't, and I do over 2 attacks/second!"
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 13 2010 20:58 GMT
#24047
the hawtshawt build is GB/B, SotD, ZOMG I HAVE 100 ARMOR PEN YOUR LIFE IS GONE!

I still hate it, no idea why people don't just kill him immediately every time they see him. that said, it does a ton of damage really fast and was funny as hell to play when I was on tilt (and I even added starks in at the end, LOL, -120 Armor). It's just so fragile for so long...
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
October 13 2010 21:13 GMT
#24048
APen on Corki doesn't sound too good actually. It's applied after reduction and can't go negative, so you might actually want to use other runes for marks/quints. Like Crit Chance.

Well that is against the lower armor types. Against many tanks APen is obviously being applied still.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 13 2010 21:13 GMT
#24049
APen is too big a deal to pass up on early anyway IMO.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Dave[9]
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2365 Posts
October 13 2010 21:16 GMT
#24050
yeah, ghostblade, SoTD, brutalizer, mercury boots, are his core items, from there it's kinda situational as for as building more tanky or even more carry. Starks would be pretty fun lol, So I'm guessing the good ol' armor pen+attack speed is still the build to go with him then..Now I'm just wondering if it's worth it to get CDR runes since he is pretty ability heavy. I'm just running armor pen reds/quints, mp/5 yellows and cdr blues. That decent for him?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=104154&currentpage=316#6317
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
October 13 2010 21:17 GMT
#24051
I saw the scariest malphite last night. Fucker had the balls to go Soto after sunfires and my god he had almost 300 attack damage.

Ps. I totally raped Locodoco's Kogmaw last game. Okay, our twitch did but I helped.
Retvrn to Forvms
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
October 13 2010 21:25 GMT
#24052
On October 14 2010 05:58 Mogwai wrote:
the hawtshawt build is GB/B, SotD, ZOMG I HAVE 100 ARMOR PEN YOUR LIFE IS GONE!

I still hate it, no idea why people don't just kill him immediately every time they see him. that said, it does a ton of damage really fast and was funny as hell to play when I was on tilt (and I even added starks in at the end, LOL, -120 Armor). It's just so fragile for so long...

His point was to completely dominate the lane and leave his opponent with a stupidly high cs deficit, and mostly on xin he was looking for A-jungle fights where he could safely get in after the tanks had engaged or B-just hope for a support to hold his ass and abuse the very strong defense from his R.

One night he and jiji just streamed for about an hour practice games of them playing solo tops vs eachother and the only character that his xin couldn't horribly gimp was zilean (who was basically immortal since he would just ult xin's burst).
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-13 21:32:16
October 13 2010 21:30 GMT
#24053
On October 14 2010 06:16 Dave[9] wrote:
yeah, ghostblade, SoTD, brutalizer, mercury boots, are his core items, from there it's kinda situational as for as building more tanky or even more carry. Starks would be pretty fun lol, So I'm guessing the good ol' armor pen+attack speed is still the build to go with him then..Now I'm just wondering if it's worth it to get CDR runes since he is pretty ability heavy. I'm just running armor pen reds/quints, mp/5 yellows and cdr blues. That decent for him?

it's fine for him and if you're going for the armor pen all-in type builds, that 29 armor pen is irreplacable. CDR blues are great on him because max CDR + W lets you faceroll abilities non-stop while you stay alive.

as I said earlier, I hate the hotshot build. recurve bow, boots, HoG, merc treads is my default opening with Xin into tanky stuff and bloodrazor or tanky stuff and last whisper + atma's impaler. I run ASpeed red + quint with dodge seals and MRes/level glyphs with a 0/21/9 setup. As you can probably tell I'm much less about causing as much havoc as I can in the first 2-5 seconds of a teamfight before I get exploded and much more about just lasting forever and outputting consistent damage and popping people up.

On October 14 2010 06:25 r33k wrote:
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On October 14 2010 05:58 Mogwai wrote:
the hawtshawt build is GB/B, SotD, ZOMG I HAVE 100 ARMOR PEN YOUR LIFE IS GONE!

I still hate it, no idea why people don't just kill him immediately every time they see him. that said, it does a ton of damage really fast and was funny as hell to play when I was on tilt (and I even added starks in at the end, LOL, -120 Armor). It's just so fragile for so long...

His point was to completely dominate the lane and leave his opponent with a stupidly high cs deficit, and mostly on xin he was looking for A-jungle fights where he could safely get in after the tanks had engaged or B-just hope for a support to hold his ass and abuse the very strong defense from his R.

One night he and jiji just streamed for about an hour practice games of them playing solo tops vs eachother and the only character that his xin couldn't horribly gimp was zilean (who was basically immortal since he would just ult xin's burst).

did they play Panth vs. Xin? I get that matchup every once in awhile and I have never done anything other than completely abuse Xin with Panth.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
October 13 2010 21:42 GMT
#24054
On October 14 2010 05:49 Dave[9] wrote:
Do you guys think the hotshot build is outdated for Xin? I've been using it to a lot of success but something doesn't feel right..maybe I just need to get better at creep killing.



Last hits with Xin are AMAZINGLY easy. The damage from his auto attack is done instantly upon queuing his attack (not when his weapon physically hits, which would be abyssmal because it has such a wide arc sometimes).

Personally I do a very tanky Xin build and get a madred's bloodrazor eventually (I don't rush it) as my only dps item. His combo hits hard enough without any extra damage if you life long enough to do it twice they're pretty much dead.
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
October 13 2010 21:47 GMT
#24055
So they released the skills of Lux but apparently they're being changed again according to Shurelia:

Her W Spell - Prismatic Wave is currently being changed to something different.

In addition, her passive does not grant sight or truesight of the target, and her ultimate does not blind. We're working on some balance issues with her at the moment, and this may shift the spells around.

Just giving you guys the heads up, but the new Prismatic Barrier spell is pretty awesomely fun!
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
October 13 2010 21:51 GMT
#24056
Nerfed into oblivion before release :o Makes me want to be on the test realm to witness the massacre
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
October 13 2010 21:58 GMT
#24057
it hasnt been updated, these are assumed internal changes

also

[image loading]
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
ProdT
Profile Joined January 2009
United States170 Posts
October 13 2010 22:04 GMT
#24058
^Lol
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
October 13 2010 22:05 GMT
#24059
oh also this is a good link for any skin related questions:

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=123056
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 13 2010 23:06 GMT
#24060
On October 14 2010 06:58 Phrost wrote:
it hasnt been updated, these are assumed internal changes

also

[image loading]

i dont get it

Anyways, I go manamune on Ezreal if I know I won't get blue buff cause of golem whores like Kass. I feel like Ezreal needs some mana boost, especially since I don't go Sheen. (Hate that item so-so much)
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