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vizniz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States120 Posts
September 27 2010 19:26 GMT
#20541
On September 28 2010 03:39 ScDeluX wrote:
Sona is fucking useless.

I bought her, played her once and not gonna pick her b4 shes gets buff.

You can't do any damage, its worse than soraka.

You can't spam ur abilitys

Your squishy as hell.


You're pretty...wrong. I bought her, and have been playing her exclusively since then. Such a fun and effective support character.

I've been trying to perfect a build. I like the idea of getting a Tear of the Goddess early so you can build a mana pool for late game, but it doesn't help you be any more effective in the early game.

As for spamming abilities, get blue buff. Golem+ToG or Archangels=huge mana increase.
SC2/LoL/Steam: vizniz LoL smurf: visnistehsmurf
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
September 27 2010 19:42 GMT
#20542
On September 28 2010 04:14 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2010 04:10 Brees wrote:
i think that guy was trolling, because i havent seen a team with sona in ranked lose yet. Ive been seeing a lot of horrible 1600+ people lately and guess who they all pick? Sona.

so thats how they got there.

she is absurdly strong, ive seen people build fucking triforce and innervating locket and still rape.


The sudden rise of locket udyr and locket sona really bug me. There's so many better items to be buying...

It doesnt seem that bad, atleast if you cant access golem buff, it will do ALOT of good tanking (even though you'd probally wanna get a Banshee's / FoN / Omen / sunfire instead...)
Seems like a "mana issue solver?"
In the woods, there lurks..
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 27 2010 19:46 GMT
#20543
Udyr never has mana problem as long as you auto attack with Turtle.
Tear/Staff is a better investment overall than Locket for Sona imo.
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Ordained
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
September 27 2010 19:50 GMT
#20544
On September 27 2010 23:15 ghen wrote:
I try to play the game as if tl.net moderators were looking over my shoulder. I don't succeed all the time, but it's worth the effort.

Keeps me from saying a lot of things that I would later regret.

Also irritates my teammates when I tell them not to troll so hard

I play the same way, well kinda. I always like to have manners, unless im in vent. I swear my head off in vent.
"You are not trying to win, you are trying to be awesome" -Day[9]
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
September 27 2010 19:53 GMT
#20545
Soraka wrote:
Soraka

Better Burst Healing

Better consistent CC/Breaker

Higher Damage Potential

Better Auto-Attack for Zoning

Less Mana Problems

Sona

Better support overall (her auras are really good)

AoE CC Ultimate

Better at Chasing without a summoner spell/item

Here is the math assuming level 10…over 15 seconds with no items

VS 30 Magic Resist

Soraka:
Starcall 3s CD
Starcall Hit 1 (vs 30 MR) = 180 x 0.77 = 139
Starcall Hit 2 (vs 22 MR) = 180 x 0.82 = 148
Starcall Hit 3 (vs 14 MR) = 180 x 0.88 = 157
Starcall Hit 4 (vs 06 MR) = 180 x 0.93 = 166
Starcall Hit 5 (vs -02 MR) = 180 x 1.02 = 184

Infuse 15s CD
Infuse Hit 1 (vs -02 MR) = 250 x 1.02 = 255

Total Damage over 15 seconds = 1053 Magic Damage (assuming 0 autoattacks)

Sona
Crescendo 60s+ CD
Crescendo Hit (vs 30 MR) = [150 + 12 (aura AP ratio)] x 0.77 = 125

Hymn of Valor 7s CD
Hymn of Valor Hit 1 (vs 30 MR) = [270 + 12 (aura AP ratio] x 0.77 = 217
Hymn of Valor Hit 2 (vs 30 MR) = [270 + 12 (aura AP ratio] x 0.77 = 217

Assume 1 Hit Power Chord (vs 30 MR @ lvl 10) = 144 x .77 = 111

Total Damage over 15 seconds = 670 Magic Damage

Since 1053 > 670

Soraka does more damage than Sona Total.


Regarding Locket: Sona shouldn´t need it. She needs Mana, yeah but there are plenty sources for that. She however never should need more HPregen than her W provides her, as squishy as she may be there is NO reason for her to put herself in danger.

HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 27 2010 19:53 GMT
#20546
So someone named 0123456789 added me and his status thing says "Heard you need pro trist"
lol
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-27 19:59:46
September 27 2010 19:59 GMT
#20547
On September 28 2010 04:53 Unentschieden wrote:
Show nested quote +
Soraka wrote:
Soraka

Better Burst Healing

Better consistent CC/Breaker

Higher Damage Potential

Better Auto-Attack for Zoning

Less Mana Problems

Sona

Better support overall (her auras are really good)

AoE CC Ultimate

Better at Chasing without a summoner spell/item

Here is the math assuming level 10…over 15 seconds with no items

VS 30 Magic Resist

Soraka:
Starcall 3s CD
Starcall Hit 1 (vs 30 MR) = 180 x 0.77 = 139
Starcall Hit 2 (vs 22 MR) = 180 x 0.82 = 148
Starcall Hit 3 (vs 14 MR) = 180 x 0.88 = 157
Starcall Hit 4 (vs 06 MR) = 180 x 0.93 = 166
Starcall Hit 5 (vs -02 MR) = 180 x 1.02 = 184

Infuse 15s CD
Infuse Hit 1 (vs -02 MR) = 250 x 1.02 = 255

Total Damage over 15 seconds = 1053 Magic Damage (assuming 0 autoattacks)

Sona
Crescendo 60s+ CD
Crescendo Hit (vs 30 MR) = [150 + 12 (aura AP ratio)] x 0.77 = 125

Hymn of Valor 7s CD
Hymn of Valor Hit 1 (vs 30 MR) = [270 + 12 (aura AP ratio] x 0.77 = 217
Hymn of Valor Hit 2 (vs 30 MR) = [270 + 12 (aura AP ratio] x 0.77 = 217

Assume 1 Hit Power Chord (vs 30 MR @ lvl 10) = 144 x .77 = 111

Total Damage over 15 seconds = 670 Magic Damage

Since 1053 > 670

Soraka does more damage than Sona Total.


Regarding Locket: Sona shouldn´t need it. She needs Mana, yeah but there are plenty sources for that. She however never should need more HPregen than her W provides her, as squishy as she may be there is NO reason for her to put herself in danger.


lol, so if we assume 30 MR and 5 hits, the one that reduces MR into the negative area at point blank range wins out... SHOCKING! Stop the presses everyone! If you stand in starcalls forever with base 30 MR, you get raped!

sona's just a way better poker. she deals her damage in a practical burst for a support hero, whereas Soraka needs to sit in the middle of their team spamming Q without dying for a long period of time to actually out damage sona.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
September 27 2010 20:07 GMT
#20548
ergh want the champs to change
what time do they usually change on sundays?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
September 27 2010 20:08 GMT
#20549
I don't want the champs to change. Bad kassadins on the other team are the best way to gain mejai stacks as kass.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 27 2010 20:10 GMT
#20550
omg, free shen!

so excited for smurfing!

I dunno why, but smurfing with shen is one of my favorite pastimes.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
September 27 2010 20:11 GMT
#20551
On September 28 2010 05:10 Mogwai wrote:
omg, free shen!

so excited for smurfing!

I dunno why, but smurfing with shen is one of my favorite pastimes.

looking forward to trying him and rammus both out myself
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 27 2010 20:11 GMT
#20552
On September 28 2010 05:10 Mogwai wrote:
omg, free shen!

so excited for smurfing!

I dunno why, but smurfing with shen is one of my favorite pastimes.

Because revive shen reminds you of revive pantheon, right?
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 27 2010 20:12 GMT
#20553
no, triforce shen reminds me of triforce shen ^_^
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
September 27 2010 20:18 GMT
#20554
but you could triforce AND revive shen.
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-27 20:21:36
September 27 2010 20:20 GMT
#20555
On September 28 2010 05:18 HeavOnEarth wrote:
but you could triforce AND revive shen.

...your ideas are intriguing to me and I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
September 27 2010 20:23 GMT
#20556
So the purpose of Triforce Shen is to maximize Ki Strike burst damage, right?
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-27 20:25:51
September 27 2010 20:25 GMT
#20557
it's to fuckin' cut bitches up.

you go sheen -> ghostblade -> triforce -> omen + veil -> atma's impaler it's so fucking pro, jesus, so good, thinking about it is making me excited.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
September 27 2010 20:30 GMT
#20558
i one time lost a 3v5 when there 3 was atmas shen, kayle, zilean, all 3 had ga
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Kingske
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium252 Posts
September 27 2010 20:35 GMT
#20559
On September 28 2010 05:30 BraveGhost wrote:
i one time lost a 3v5 when there 3 was atmas shen, kayle, zilean, all 3 had ga


did u start 3v5?
Bravery! - Livestream.com/frogtails
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
September 27 2010 20:36 GMT
#20560
new Miss Fortune skin coming

+ Show Spoiler +
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