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On September 28 2010 03:39 ScDeluX wrote:
Sona is fucking useless.
I bought her, played her once and not gonna pick her b4 shes gets buff.
You can't do any damage, its worse than soraka.
You can't spam ur abilitys
Your squishy as hell.
You're pretty...wrong. I bought her, and have been playing her exclusively since then. Such a fun and effective support character.
I've been trying to perfect a build. I like the idea of getting a Tear of the Goddess early so you can build a mana pool for late game, but it doesn't help you be any more effective in the early game.
As for spamming abilities, get blue buff. Golem+ToG or Archangels=huge mana increase.
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On September 28 2010 04:14 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 04:10 Brees wrote:
i think that guy was trolling, because i havent seen a team with sona in ranked lose yet. Ive been seeing a lot of horrible 1600+ people lately and guess who they all pick? Sona.
so thats how they got there.
she is absurdly strong, ive seen people build fucking triforce and innervating locket and still rape. The sudden rise of locket udyr and locket sona really bug me. There's so many better items to be buying...
It doesnt seem that bad, atleast if you cant access golem buff, it will do ALOT of good tanking (even though you'd probally wanna get a Banshee's / FoN / Omen / sunfire instead...)
Seems like a "mana issue solver?"
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Udyr never has mana problem as long as you auto attack with Turtle.
Tear/Staff is a better investment overall than Locket for Sona imo.
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On September 27 2010 23:15 ghen wrote:I try to play the game as if tl.net moderators were looking over my shoulder. I don't succeed all the time, but it's worth the effort. Keeps me from saying a lot of things that I would later regret. Also irritates my teammates when I tell them not to troll so hard 
I play the same way, well kinda. I always like to have manners, unless im in vent. I swear my head off in vent.
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Soraka wrote:
Soraka
Better Burst Healing
Better consistent CC/Breaker
Higher Damage Potential
Better Auto-Attack for Zoning
Less Mana Problems
Sona
Better support overall (her auras are really good)
AoE CC Ultimate
Better at Chasing without a summoner spell/item
Here is the math assuming level 10…over 15 seconds with no items
VS 30 Magic Resist
Soraka:
Starcall 3s CD
Starcall Hit 1 (vs 30 MR) = 180 x 0.77 = 139
Starcall Hit 2 (vs 22 MR) = 180 x 0.82 = 148
Starcall Hit 3 (vs 14 MR) = 180 x 0.88 = 157
Starcall Hit 4 (vs 06 MR) = 180 x 0.93 = 166
Starcall Hit 5 (vs -02 MR) = 180 x 1.02 = 184
Infuse 15s CD
Infuse Hit 1 (vs -02 MR) = 250 x 1.02 = 255
Total Damage over 15 seconds = 1053 Magic Damage (assuming 0 autoattacks)
Sona
Crescendo 60s+ CD
Crescendo Hit (vs 30 MR) = [150 + 12 (aura AP ratio)] x 0.77 = 125
Hymn of Valor 7s CD
Hymn of Valor Hit 1 (vs 30 MR) = [270 + 12 (aura AP ratio] x 0.77 = 217
Hymn of Valor Hit 2 (vs 30 MR) = [270 + 12 (aura AP ratio] x 0.77 = 217
Assume 1 Hit Power Chord (vs 30 MR @ lvl 10) = 144 x .77 = 111
Total Damage over 15 seconds = 670 Magic Damage
Since 1053 > 670
Soraka does more damage than Sona Total.
Regarding Locket: Sona shouldn´t need it. She needs Mana, yeah but there are plenty sources for that. She however never should need more HPregen than her W provides her, as squishy as she may be there is NO reason for her to put herself in danger.
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So someone named 0123456789 added me and his status thing says "Heard you need pro trist"
lol
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On September 28 2010 04:53 Unentschieden wrote:Show nested quote +Soraka wrote:
Soraka
Better Burst Healing
Better consistent CC/Breaker
Higher Damage Potential
Better Auto-Attack for Zoning
Less Mana Problems
Sona
Better support overall (her auras are really good)
AoE CC Ultimate
Better at Chasing without a summoner spell/item
Here is the math assuming level 10…over 15 seconds with no items
VS 30 Magic Resist
Soraka:
Starcall 3s CD
Starcall Hit 1 (vs 30 MR) = 180 x 0.77 = 139
Starcall Hit 2 (vs 22 MR) = 180 x 0.82 = 148
Starcall Hit 3 (vs 14 MR) = 180 x 0.88 = 157
Starcall Hit 4 (vs 06 MR) = 180 x 0.93 = 166
Starcall Hit 5 (vs -02 MR) = 180 x 1.02 = 184
Infuse 15s CD
Infuse Hit 1 (vs -02 MR) = 250 x 1.02 = 255
Total Damage over 15 seconds = 1053 Magic Damage (assuming 0 autoattacks)
Sona
Crescendo 60s+ CD
Crescendo Hit (vs 30 MR) = [150 + 12 (aura AP ratio)] x 0.77 = 125
Hymn of Valor 7s CD
Hymn of Valor Hit 1 (vs 30 MR) = [270 + 12 (aura AP ratio] x 0.77 = 217
Hymn of Valor Hit 2 (vs 30 MR) = [270 + 12 (aura AP ratio] x 0.77 = 217
Assume 1 Hit Power Chord (vs 30 MR @ lvl 10) = 144 x .77 = 111
Total Damage over 15 seconds = 670 Magic Damage
Since 1053 > 670
Soraka does more damage than Sona Total. Regarding Locket: Sona shouldn´t need it. She needs Mana, yeah but there are plenty sources for that. She however never should need more HPregen than her W provides her, as squishy as she may be there is NO reason for her to put herself in danger.
lol, so if we assume 30 MR and 5 hits, the one that reduces MR into the negative area at point blank range wins out... SHOCKING! Stop the presses everyone! If you stand in starcalls forever with base 30 MR, you get raped!
sona's just a way better poker. she deals her damage in a practical burst for a support hero, whereas Soraka needs to sit in the middle of their team spamming Q without dying for a long period of time to actually out damage sona.
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ergh want the champs to change
what time do they usually change on sundays?
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I don't want the champs to change. Bad kassadins on the other team are the best way to gain mejai stacks as kass.
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omg, free shen!
so excited for smurfing!
I dunno why, but smurfing with shen is one of my favorite pastimes.
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On September 28 2010 05:10 Mogwai wrote:
omg, free shen!
so excited for smurfing!
I dunno why, but smurfing with shen is one of my favorite pastimes.
looking forward to trying him and rammus both out myself
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On September 28 2010 05:10 Mogwai wrote:
omg, free shen!
so excited for smurfing!
I dunno why, but smurfing with shen is one of my favorite pastimes.
Because revive shen reminds you of revive pantheon, right?
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no, triforce shen reminds me of triforce shen ^_^
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but you could triforce AND revive shen.
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On September 28 2010 05:18 HeavOnEarth wrote:
but you could triforce AND revive shen.
...your ideas are intriguing to me and I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.
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So the purpose of Triforce Shen is to maximize Ki Strike burst damage, right?
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it's to fuckin' cut bitches up.
you go sheen -> ghostblade -> triforce -> omen + veil -> atma's impaler it's so fucking pro, jesus, so good, thinking about it is making me excited.
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i one time lost a 3v5 when there 3 was atmas shen, kayle, zilean, all 3 had ga
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On September 28 2010 05:30 BraveGhost wrote:
i one time lost a 3v5 when there 3 was atmas shen, kayle, zilean, all 3 had ga
did u start 3v5?
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