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Jollibee19350 Posts
On May 15 2010 16:53 BalliSLife wrote: Man, if those 3 game together it's pretty much a wrap for the rest of the league. Lebron is pretty unselfish though so maybe him and wade might just work. =.= that's sooooo OP, lebron, wade and bosh? damn. that'd be like.... younger boston | ||
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vietboi
Norway109 Posts
Anyway, that wont happen. I think lebron will stay at cavs really. Do like MJ did with chicago, and what kobe is doing what the lakers. Remember! Lebron is only 25 years old, he still has a lot of years to win rings. MJ did not win his first ring before he was 28 years! If he's gonna stay they need to bring in like a 2nd optrion. Right now its only lebron, and then lebron again. I think CB4 would be perfect fit. If the cavs play big he can play the 4 and shaq at 5. If they play small he can just rotate over on the 5 spot and lebron will play the 4 spot. Bosh is a dominant low post presence, but also a decent shooter who can stretch the opponent team. A playing style i think is pretty like with KG's. He will take alot of the pressure of lebron, and that will only make lebron better. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
It's kind of incredible when you consider he's self-taught himself basketball since he was 18. | ||
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vietboi
Norway109 Posts
On May 15 2010 18:55 Jibba wrote: I think a really important consideration is who Chicago's next head coach is. He could go to Miami and get Riley for a year or two, but I bet he wants long term coaching, from someone who actually knows what they're doing. It's kind of incredible when you consider he's self-taught himself basketball since he was 18. He will get that longterm coach in cleveland, so if thats a argument for where hes going he's more likely staying in cleveland. He knows that coach mike brown knows what hes doing, lebron just needs a better support cast. Self-taught? I bet he has worked alot together with cleveland coaches to get where he is now. Not taking away anything from him, but i doubt he is as good as now if he was self taught. | ||
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Kazius
Israel1456 Posts
On May 15 2010 11:26 ccdnl wrote: wade has made it VERY clear he wants to stay in Miami...and lebron aint going to miami...nowitski..? why him and with which team? BUT, Wade is a Chicago boy. Do you think that he'll really say no if they go "hey, want to play back home, with Rose instead of those scrubs at Miami?" Nowitzki is a superstar in his own right, and anyone who's seen him play this season knows that he's one of the top 3 PFs in the league, not as soft as people credit him, and a defensive nightmare for anyone except maybe LeBron, and yes he plays the low post when needed. Of course, (Bismillah!) Cuban will not let him go, and Dallas don't have the money to bring in another max contract. On May 15 2010 13:27 condoriano wrote: lebron can go to miami, why dismiss it. It's a party place. Plus he's really tight with wade from what I heard. A) Wade is a Chicago boy, born and raised. The appeal of him and Rose as hometown heroes, as well as a PROPER FRICKIN' SUPPORTING CAST (no, Beasley doesn't count unless you're as high as he is), the 3rd biggest NBA market (a lot of money from advertisement... and I mean... STUPIDLY MASSIVE amounts of money), and the fact that Chicago will even have money left over to sign 3-4 more veterans looking for a championship or another big name, have a solid backup for his position, a great coach, and with him, a legitimate possibility of becoming an elite team. His staying in Miami despite the team doing nothing for him since 2006 would be like KG's stay in Minnesota... and he knows it. B) LeBron and Wade in the same team might work (with a good coach or two basketballs on the court), but only one team will have the money to bring them both - New Jersey. Will LeBron or Wade move to a team that only in the garbage time of the season managed to escape the title of "worst team, EVER"? C) Even if it was possible, LeBron moving to another team would require a huge market (LA, Chicago, NY) for him to make more money. Moving away from Cleveland now would damage his image, and with a coach that knows how to run an offense other than "give the ball to LeBron" he can take multiple championships there (Mike Brown is a good defensive coach, but that's about it). And he's a home-town hero there, despite whatever the media tries to throw at him. Even MJ had years of getting smashed up by Boston and Detroit before he finally got his ring in Chicago, which was at the time a tiny market NBA-wise. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On May 15 2010 19:31 vietboi wrote: Where do you people come up with this stuff? First Mo, now Mike Brown? He's there to be a cheerleader. We already know he doesn't have any control over the offense (so at least he doesn't take all the blame for that atrocity) but he makes zero defensive adjustments during the game and is always slow on timeouts.He knows that coach mike brown knows what hes doing His defense coaching is totally overrated, since he can only motivate them to play it against shitty teams and during the regular season. Despite Lebron's newfound love of blocks, with Mo on the team, they've probably gotten worse at defense over the past 2 years. Look at what happened against Boston and Orlando last year? | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
look at it this way. if he stays, he's only being loyal to the nba's draft system. it's not that great of an object of loyalty. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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MuffinDude
United States3837 Posts
On May 16 2010 00:56 x2fst wrote: i have never wanted something to be true more than this rumor WTF?!??!? HOLY SHIT?!?!?? Wow. This is bad. | ||
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BalliSLife
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Xeris
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BalliSLife
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Servolisk
United States5241 Posts
Didn't see the evidence in the above videos because the narrator seems like a whiney $*$*# and I couldn't watch very long! | ||
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Servolisk
United States5241 Posts
On May 15 2010 15:42 Waxangel wrote: what arrogance  ?Our team has sucked for a while now, and even with lebron +1, we'd only still be a "good" team at best. Of course some stupid fans will go into "in your face!!!!" mode to other people, but I think most reasonable knicks fans will just weep silently in joy if we get lebron without causing much hassle -_- I was very mistaken to take a shot at the humble and modest Knicks franchise! :[ | ||
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vietboi
Norway109 Posts
On May 15 2010 22:28 Jibba wrote: Where do you people come up with this stuff? First Mo, now Mike Brown? He's there to be a cheerleader. We already know he doesn't have any control over the offense (so at least he doesn't take all the blame for that atrocity) but he makes zero defensive adjustments during the game and is always slow on timeouts. His defense coaching is totally overrated, since he can only motivate them to play it against shitty teams and during the regular season. Despite Lebron's newfound love of blocks, with Mo on the team, they've probably gotten worse at defense over the past 2 years. Look at what happened against Boston and Orlando last year? Was it the lack of support for Lebron that made cavs lose against celtics? Or was it Mike Brown? Im leaning towards the first one, but it can be a combination of both. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On May 16 2010 04:06 Servolisk wrote: Completely disagreed. Flip generally made decent adjustments, but that was simply the series that the Pistons quit on him. There was nothing he could do to make Rasheed place help defense when Lebron got past Tayshaun. He tried multiple defenders on him (Rip being the most successful, if I recall) but the help defense wasn't there because the team had checked out. It took a few years for the Cavs to quit on Mike Brown.While I think Mike Brown did a bad job in a few things like rotation this year, in the past I think he has done a good job. Like when Cleveland beat a favored Detroit team and went to the NBA finals. He made better adjustments in that series than Flip Saunders did. Didn't see the evidence in the above videos because the narrator seems like a whiney $*$*# and I couldn't watch very long! Agreed, the narrator is annoying as hell. He'd do a much better job of showing Mike Brown in his prime if he just showed the unedited press conference. Can anyone here see any upside to putting Shaq on Garnett last game? Any at all? How does a great defensive mind put a slow, lumbering big man on a quick PF that shoots midrange jumpers? If Jamison is getting killed inside, then you either get better help or you use Varajeo. Why on earth would you dare Garnett to shoot a 15 footer? | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
As good as Rondo has been in the first two rounds, Nelson has been even better. And unlike Rondo's previous opponents, Nelson has the foot speed to stay near him on defense and prevent him from running the offense from inside the 3-point line. This is the same crew that said Nelson deserved to be an All-Star 2 years ago over Rondo when you know, Boston won the chip. Of course, Abbot chimes in with ridiculous PER arguments (another reason PER is just TERRIBLE in the playoffs - quality of opponents) Rajon Rondo and Garnett are about as good as any big-little combination in these playoffs, and they've played better competition than the Magic have. But the production has really favored the Orlando players, thanks to Jameer Nelson's amazing play. Even though a lot of Howard's contributions have been in defense, the two Magic players are both in the league's top 20 in playoff PER. Nelson's an amazing fourth, and Howard's 14th. Rondo is 17th and Garnett is 31st. So....Boston just had the toughest path of any team to the Conference Finals while Orlando had the easiest and we're calling Jameer Nelson + Howard better than Rondo+Garnett? The same Rondo who just outplayed the 2-time league MVP in a series and the same KG that just abused everyone the Cavs threw at him? Gotta love ESPN some times. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On May 16 2010 04:57 Jibba wrote: Completely disagreed. Flip generally made decent adjustments, but that was simply the series that the Pistons quit on him. There was nothing he could do to make Rasheed place help defense when Lebron got past Tayshaun. He tried multiple defenders on him (Rip being the most successful, if I recall) but the help defense wasn't there because the team had checked out. It took a few years for the Cavs to quit on Mike Brown. Agreed, the narrator is annoying as hell. He'd do a much better job of showing Mike Brown in his prime if he just showed the unedited press conference. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPb2nZPxffU Can anyone here see any upside to putting Shaq on Garnett last game? Any at all? How does a great defensive mind put a slow, lumbering big man on a quick PF that shoots midrange jumpers? If Jamison is getting killed inside, then you either get better help or you use Varajeo. Why on earth would you dare Garnett to shoot a 15 footer? Because help defense was getting them killed, it's not like KG is an unwilling passer. I agree Varajeo was the best option there defensively, but Shaq honestly seemed like the best offensive option at times especially after Mo and Jamison fell off. The supporting cast just didn't show up, didn't get their 10 points to complement whatever James was putting up. The question I want to know is why they didn't continue to run their offense through Mo Williams that worked well for a half in Game 6. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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