EPTNBA Playoffs 2010 - Page 129
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Gino-
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Ducci
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condoriano
United States826 Posts
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Butigroove
Seychelles2061 Posts
I would bet my life savings that not one person complaining about calls here would be able to ref games of this magnitude better than the professionals who did it. If you think you can do a better job, by all means dedicate your life to becoming a ref, but until then accept the fact that the refs do the best they can, and stop bitching please. It espeicially blows my mind that LA fans can whine about calls when they shot something like three times the amount of FT's? Doubt that will happen in the Garden... | ||
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Flying_Llama
Canada419 Posts
On June 07 2010 12:27 condoriano wrote: Wait wasn't 5th foul on Kobe called correctly? Also you're telling me all that garbage they called in the first quarter was fine (like 3 illegal screens in 1 minute on Boston)? Why make something huge out of gasol/KG call, they need super conclusive evidence to overrule it. Maybe they looked at it from a bad angle on a replay. And saying it would've won LA the game is plain stupid. my comment abt kobe's 5th wasnt directly about the foul itself, but the fact that he had some bs calls on him throughout the game ( cant recall which ones but i rmb at least 2). also regarding your more fts point, normally it wuold matter in a game but in this case, when you have 2 offball fouls on artest (one of the biggest assets for lakers defensively) in like 10 secs, and enough fouls on kobe to disrupt his offense ( again, half the lakers offense right there) it doesn't matter if the other team has more freethrows, especially a team with such great balance at all the positions, foul trouble to garnett wont affect them that much sinec they still have rondo, allen, pierce, davis etc etc there were bad calls on both sides so i dont put the blame on the refs in that aspect but the gasol/kg call was entirely something huge, especially since they had fucking instant replay. i cant imagine anyone arguing otherwise unless they do not watch sports at all. it was a 3 point game at that point and it led to a 5 point lead after the celtics maintained possession. it could have been a 1 point or even tie game if lakers got the ball. this led to a sequence of desperation shots and turnovers on behalf of the lakers. it was also so blatant that in every single angle that was played on tv, you can tell 100% accurately that it was garnetts hand on the ball. honestly, it was the difference between black and white, literally. | ||
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condoriano
United States826 Posts
Flying_Lama Celtics played harder at that time and I think it was a 5 point game? Wasn't Gasol fouling anyways trying to get to that ball through KG hand? I think that was a part of a reason call wasn't overruled. Artest fouls off the ball a lot, remember how he pulled Pierce pants down? Anyway he fouled out when they were already beat. | ||
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Flying_Llama
Canada419 Posts
also the artest thing is so unrelated its unbelievable you would even point that out. in THIS game those two fouls were completely bs and it doesnt really matter if artest fouled out. you gotta understand having 5 fouls limits a player sooo much in terms of defending and driving into the paint. it limited kobe to jumpshots and gave celtics a shitload of easy buckets cuz kobe didnt wanna get his 6th honestly from what you are saying, you either dont know shit abt bball, or you just hate the lakers | ||
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condoriano
United States826 Posts
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
Therefore called off Gasol->challenged->both touching = stays called off Gasol. There's no controversy. If it were originally called off KG, it would have ended up off KG. | ||
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CSN
United States175 Posts
On June 07 2010 13:25 condoriano wrote: Yeah and 4 fouls on every Boston big guy before 4th quarter limits nothing. When you look at the numbers it's twice the amount of fouls but you still argue. You mention Artest but you don't mention multiple illegal screen calls on Boston. There were bad calls both ways I'm only saying Cs get more because they got worse reputation. Keep throwing insults around, Kobe couldn't get anything going first half yet he was gona get a "shitload of easy buckets". Another ball prodigy has spoken. 4 fouls in the 3rd does not affect any of the big men except KG. | ||
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Flying_Llama
Canada419 Posts
and unless you dont understand i DO NOT blame the refs for anything BUT the gasol/garnett call and yes im sure it was a 3 point game at that point boston having 4 fouls on garnett and wallace did limit them to a point but they dont play such a big role in the team like kobe does Kobe couldn't get anything going first half yet he was gona get a "shitload of easy buckets" what? :s im saying he GAVE celtics a shitload of easy buckets cuz he didnt wanna foul and this is in the fourth im talking abt | ||
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Gino-
United States56 Posts
On June 07 2010 13:25 condoriano wrote: Yeah and 4 fouls on every Boston big guy before 4th quarter limits nothing. When you look at the numbers it's twice the amount of fouls but you still argue. You mention Artest but you don't mention multiple illegal screen calls on Boston. There were bad calls both ways I'm only saying Cs get more because they got worse reputation. Keep throwing insults around, Kobe couldn't get anything going first half yet he was gona get a "shitload of easy buckets". Another ball prodigy has spoken. right...kg got into foul trouble early so he couldn't get his rythm...big men got into fouls with 3-4 early so they had to be careful not picking there 4-5 | ||
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Flying_Llama
Canada419 Posts
On June 07 2010 13:26 igotmyown wrote: The ball off KG/Gasol: the replay showed they were both touching the ball, KG from further out, Gasol from a bit inside. You need overwhelming evidence to overturn the call; you do not start from a neutral position, you start from the position of the call in question. Therefore called off Gasol->challenged->both touching = stays called off Gasol. There's no controversy. If it were originally called off KG, it would have ended up off KG. that does slightly justify why they didnt overrule the call but i still think it was THE game changer and im still gonna make a huge deal out of it. | ||
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city42
1656 Posts
On June 07 2010 13:10 Butigroove wrote: So many people complain about calls who have no fucking CLUE how hard it is to officiate games like these where players are going all out, hustling, and more often than not diving to draw fouls. Easy to talk big when you have instant replay, a bird's eye view, and multiple camera angles. I would bet my life savings that not one person complaining about calls here would be able to ref games of this magnitude better than the professionals who did it. If you think you can do a better job, by all means dedicate your life to becoming a ref, but until then accept the fact that the refs do the best they can, and stop bitching please. It espeicially blows my mind that LA fans can whine about calls when they shot something like three times the amount of FT's? Doubt that will happen in the Garden... Taking criticism from spectators is part of the job, and always has been. The whole "don't complain since you can't do any better" argument is nonsense. | ||
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Flying_Llama
Canada419 Posts
On June 07 2010 12:22 condoriano wrote: Nope, I hate LA, not Kobe, he's their main weapon so as long as he's not performing I'm happy. I live in MA so I do care who wins (if you knew anything about northeast you wouldn't be doubting me  )that kind of explains why you continue to take everything i say into like im somehow taking away from the celtics their victory dont get me wrong, they won the game and they are a very good team, as a matter of fact, they could have even won the game if the kg/gasol call went to the lakers. im just ticked off of the fact that the refs could have changed the outcome with such a horribly bad call | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
Give cred to Ray Allen for getting those triples. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
On June 07 2010 13:42 Xeris wrote: THe game was called horribly on both sides, just like game 1. The foul trouble ruined Allen in the first game. | ||
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t3hw0lf
United States45 Posts
Got Celtics | ||
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BalliSLife
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