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Gino-
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States56 Posts
June 07 2010 03:58 GMT
#2561
anyways, yeah the game was horrible a lot went to boston in the first half then to the lakers in the 2nd half. and the thing was NO JOEY CRAWFORD! would've been worse right? lol
Gino Time!
Ducci
Profile Joined April 2009
United States588 Posts
June 07 2010 04:00 GMT
#2562
There were terrible calls against both teams. Kobe's 3rd and 4th foul I believe were bad calls as was ray allens 4th or whatever (his one against Kobe in the 4th where Kobe banked it for an and 1. No one ever touched Kobe on that shot)
condoriano
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-07 04:12:07
June 07 2010 04:10 GMT
#2563
Well you guys only judge the calls that were made, that's why I brought up a total number of FTs, one team can't shoot twice as many as the other playing the game of this intensity. Just the fact that Davis went up 3 times and didn't get a call says a lot. It feels like Cs reputation of a "physical team" is getting them bad looks.
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Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
June 07 2010 04:10 GMT
#2564
So many people complain about calls who have no fucking CLUE how hard it is to officiate games like these where players are going all out, hustling, and more often than not diving to draw fouls. Easy to talk big when you have instant replay, a bird's eye view, and multiple camera angles.
I would bet my life savings that not one person complaining about calls here would be able to ref games of this magnitude better than the professionals who did it.


If you think you can do a better job, by all means dedicate your life to becoming a ref, but until then accept the fact that the refs do the best they can, and stop bitching please.

It espeicially blows my mind that LA fans can whine about calls when they shot something like three times the amount of FT's? Doubt that will happen in the Garden...




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Flying_Llama
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada419 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-07 04:14:56
June 07 2010 04:13 GMT
#2565
On June 07 2010 12:27 condoriano wrote:
Wait wasn't 5th foul on Kobe called correctly? Also you're telling me all that garbage they called in the first quarter was fine (like 3 illegal screens in 1 minute on Boston)?

Why make something huge out of gasol/KG call, they need super conclusive evidence to overrule it. Maybe they looked at it from a bad angle on a replay. And saying it would've won LA the game is plain stupid.


my comment abt kobe's 5th wasnt directly about the foul itself, but the fact that he had some bs calls on him throughout the game ( cant recall which ones but i rmb at least 2).

also regarding your more fts point, normally it wuold matter in a game but in this case, when you have 2 offball fouls on artest (one of the biggest assets for lakers defensively) in like 10 secs, and enough fouls on kobe to disrupt his offense ( again, half the lakers offense right there) it doesn't matter if the other team has more freethrows, especially a team with such great balance at all the positions, foul trouble to garnett wont affect them that much sinec they still have rondo, allen, pierce, davis etc etc

there were bad calls on both sides so i dont put the blame on the refs in that aspect but the gasol/kg call was entirely something huge, especially since they had fucking instant replay. i cant imagine anyone arguing otherwise unless they do not watch sports at all. it was a 3 point game at that point and it led to a 5 point lead after the celtics maintained possession. it could have been a 1 point or even tie game if lakers got the ball. this led to a sequence of desperation shots and turnovers on behalf of the lakers. it was also so blatant that in every single angle that was played on tv, you can tell 100% accurately that it was garnetts hand on the ball. honestly, it was the difference between black and white, literally.
condoriano
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-07 04:18:55
June 07 2010 04:13 GMT
#2566
Butigroove I agree but I think the refs could do a lot better, some guys are just plain old. LA has way better reputation foulwise that's all I'm saying, I don't think refs are trying to murder any team.

Flying_Lama Celtics played harder at that time and I think it was a 5 point game? Wasn't Gasol fouling anyways trying to get to that ball through KG hand? I think that was a part of a reason call wasn't overruled.

Artest fouls off the ball a lot, remember how he pulled Pierce pants down? Anyway he fouled out when they were already beat.
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Flying_Llama
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada419 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-07 04:23:29
June 07 2010 04:23 GMT
#2567
== if anything it was a foul on garnett for going over gasols back

also the artest thing is so unrelated its unbelievable you would even point that out. in THIS game those two fouls were completely bs and it doesnt really matter if artest fouled out. you gotta understand having 5 fouls limits a player sooo much in terms of defending and driving into the paint. it limited kobe to jumpshots and gave celtics a shitload of easy buckets cuz kobe didnt wanna get his 6th

honestly from what you are saying, you either dont know shit abt bball, or you just hate the lakers
condoriano
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-07 04:26:44
June 07 2010 04:25 GMT
#2568
Yeah and 4 fouls on every Boston big guy before 4th quarter limits nothing. When you look at the numbers it's twice the amount of fouls but you still argue. You mention Artest but you don't mention multiple illegal screen calls on Boston. There were bad calls both ways I'm only saying Cs get more because they got worse reputation. Keep throwing insults around, Kobe couldn't get anything going first half yet he was gona get a "shitload of easy buckets". Another ball prodigy has spoken.
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igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
June 07 2010 04:26 GMT
#2569
The ball off KG/Gasol: the replay showed they were both touching the ball, KG from further out, Gasol from a bit inside. You need overwhelming evidence to overturn the call; you do not start from a neutral position, you start from the position of the call in question.
Therefore called off Gasol->challenged->both touching = stays called off Gasol. There's no controversy. If it were originally called off KG, it would have ended up off KG.
CSN
Profile Joined February 2009
United States175 Posts
June 07 2010 04:30 GMT
#2570
On June 07 2010 13:25 condoriano wrote:
Yeah and 4 fouls on every Boston big guy before 4th quarter limits nothing. When you look at the numbers it's twice the amount of fouls but you still argue. You mention Artest but you don't mention multiple illegal screen calls on Boston. There were bad calls both ways I'm only saying Cs get more because they got worse reputation. Keep throwing insults around, Kobe couldn't get anything going first half yet he was gona get a "shitload of easy buckets". Another ball prodigy has spoken.


4 fouls in the 3rd does not affect any of the big men except KG.
"you posting only about sports here makes you a non-contributing member, and therefor, your arrogant attitude towards him is not good humor, just you being a prick." -kazius
Flying_Llama
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada419 Posts
June 07 2010 04:30 GMT
#2571
i already said im not talking about bad calls to only the lakers, im just commenting about how you cant look solely at the ft numbers and say "suck it up, lakers were favoured if anything"

and unless you dont understand i DO NOT blame the refs for anything BUT the gasol/garnett call
and yes im sure it was a 3 point game at that point

boston having 4 fouls on garnett and wallace did limit them to a point but they dont play such a big role in the team like kobe does

Kobe couldn't get anything going first half yet he was gona get a "shitload of easy buckets"


what? :s im saying he GAVE celtics a shitload of easy buckets cuz he didnt wanna foul and this is in the fourth im talking abt
Gino-
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States56 Posts
June 07 2010 04:31 GMT
#2572
On June 07 2010 13:25 condoriano wrote:
Yeah and 4 fouls on every Boston big guy before 4th quarter limits nothing. When you look at the numbers it's twice the amount of fouls but you still argue. You mention Artest but you don't mention multiple illegal screen calls on Boston. There were bad calls both ways I'm only saying Cs get more because they got worse reputation. Keep throwing insults around, Kobe couldn't get anything going first half yet he was gona get a "shitload of easy buckets". Another ball prodigy has spoken.


right...kg got into foul trouble early so he couldn't get his rythm...big men got into fouls with 3-4 early so they had to be careful not picking there 4-5
Gino Time!
Flying_Llama
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada419 Posts
June 07 2010 04:32 GMT
#2573
On June 07 2010 13:26 igotmyown wrote:
The ball off KG/Gasol: the replay showed they were both touching the ball, KG from further out, Gasol from a bit inside. You need overwhelming evidence to overturn the call; you do not start from a neutral position, you start from the position of the call in question.
Therefore called off Gasol->challenged->both touching = stays called off Gasol. There's no controversy. If it were originally called off KG, it would have ended up off KG.


that does slightly justify why they didnt overrule the call but i still think it was THE game changer and im still gonna make a huge deal out of it.
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
June 07 2010 04:37 GMT
#2574
On June 07 2010 13:10 Butigroove wrote:
So many people complain about calls who have no fucking CLUE how hard it is to officiate games like these where players are going all out, hustling, and more often than not diving to draw fouls. Easy to talk big when you have instant replay, a bird's eye view, and multiple camera angles.
I would bet my life savings that not one person complaining about calls here would be able to ref games of this magnitude better than the professionals who did it.


If you think you can do a better job, by all means dedicate your life to becoming a ref, but until then accept the fact that the refs do the best they can, and stop bitching please.

It espeicially blows my mind that LA fans can whine about calls when they shot something like three times the amount of FT's? Doubt that will happen in the Garden...





Taking criticism from spectators is part of the job, and always has been. The whole "don't complain since you can't do any better" argument is nonsense.
Flying_Llama
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada419 Posts
June 07 2010 04:39 GMT
#2575
On June 07 2010 12:22 condoriano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2010 12:12 CSN wrote:
On June 07 2010 12:07 condoriano wrote:
On June 07 2010 11:59 CSN wrote:
i would say gg but refs fucked both sides. congrats to the celtics.


You LA fans need to be honest with yourself, just look at FT numbers, don't be ridiculous. LA shot twice as many FTs and still lost


do you even watch the game? the fouls were called when they were attacking (bynum gasol). yes there were a few shooting fouls that should havent have been made (kobe's bank shot, davis block on bynum and pierce on artest), but bad calls went BOTH WAYS. looking at your posts anyone can tell you just dont like kobe and dont care who would win and how they win as long as kobe doesnt.


Nope, I hate LA, not Kobe, he's their main weapon so as long as he's not performing I'm happy. I live in MA so I do care who wins (if you knew anything about northeast you wouldn't be doubting me )


that kind of explains why you continue to take everything i say into like im somehow taking away from the celtics their victory

dont get me wrong, they won the game and they are a very good team, as a matter of fact, they could have even won the game if the kg/gasol call went to the lakers. im just ticked off of the fact that the refs could have changed the outcome with such a horribly bad call
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
June 07 2010 04:40 GMT
#2576
So many false calls by the officials this game, everyone into fucking foul trouble.

Give cred to Ray Allen for getting those triples.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 07 2010 04:42 GMT
#2577
THe game was called horribly on both sides, just like game 1.
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
June 07 2010 04:44 GMT
#2578
On June 07 2010 13:42 Xeris wrote:
THe game was called horribly on both sides, just like game 1.


The foul trouble ruined Allen in the first game.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
t3hw0lf
Profile Joined March 2010
United States45 Posts
June 07 2010 04:48 GMT
#2579
Agreed, the foul calling was horrible on both sides. Also both sides couldn't shoot tonight, but there was great D.

Got Celtics
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BalliSLife
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
1339 Posts
June 07 2010 05:32 GMT
#2580
lol @ mahhh nigga...
Ya well, at least I don't fuck a fleshlight with a condom on and cry at the same time.
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