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cannavaro
Profile Joined November 2010
Italy86 Posts
March 22 2011 18:04 GMT
#1341
On March 23 2011 02:25 anilusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 13:05 Ferrose wrote:
[image loading]


Why are they hating on him?



Because he put an Everstone (item that prevents evolution) on Shelmet, a Pokemon that only evolves when traded vs. a Karrablast.
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 18:19:13
March 22 2011 18:19 GMT
#1342
I played pokemon blue/red when it first came out, but i never realized people took it so serious?^^

If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
teh_longinator
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada725 Posts
March 22 2011 18:24 GMT
#1343
On March 23 2011 03:19 Technique wrote:
I played pokemon blue/red when it first came out, but i never realized people took it so serious?^^



Oh hell yeah they do! I found out when I played Pearl that playing online without an IV trained pokemon is just suicide! However, that doesn't quite mean I went out of my way to IV train them myself

I'm a lazy player! I'd rather catch them all than IV train!
ScarletKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States691 Posts
March 22 2011 18:48 GMT
#1344
On March 22 2011 23:23 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 16:30 ScarletKnight wrote:
On March 22 2011 10:25 Ferrose wrote:
Yeah, I ended up replacing Starmie's Recover with Ice Beam, to fight Gliscors. My strategy before was just to send out Skarmory to neuter their Toxic >.>

About the priority: I'm totally open to changing my team around to improve it. But the reason I'm asking for help is because I have no idea what to change.

Thank you for your input

Edit @ adeezy: It's called Pokemon Online. Just Google it.


I would recommend replacing Bug Bite with X-Scissor on Scizor. Better physical attack to take advantage of of Scizors massive ATK.


Well with Technician, Bug Bite's power is 90, which is better than X-Scissor's 80.


Oops, missed that part. My bad ^_^
Looks like I picked the wrong week the quit sniffing glue
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 20:01:25
March 22 2011 19:04 GMT
#1345
On March 22 2011 20:35 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 17:49 ReketSomething wrote:
I just finished IV / EV train my agility gross and I realized that it can't learn ice/thunder punch as that was a gen IV only thing.

I guess ill give it explosion or something...

sigh.....


Uh what is your gross using right now?

Meteor Mash
Agility
uh Earthquake at least right?

Then what?


My point exactly. Nothing lol.

edit: i guess my options are now zen headbutt (psychic), rock slide (rock), grass knot (grass), brick break/hammer arm (fighting)

psychic gives 2x against fighting, grass against ground and water, rock against flying+bug and 30% flinch chance. and fighting against normal+dark

any recommendations?
Jaedong :3
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
March 22 2011 20:08 GMT
#1346
I'd say Rock Slide because it would help your Metagross not get walled by Skarmory.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Laids
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom596 Posts
March 22 2011 22:27 GMT
#1347
[image loading]


ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
March 22 2011 23:42 GMT
#1348
On March 23 2011 05:08 Ferrose wrote:
I'd say Rock Slide because it would help your Metagross not get walled by Skarmory.


Well skarmory is steel...so rock does normal damage and so rosk slide does 75. Meteor mash is 100+50 STAB/2 = 75 so it doesn't actually help much besides the 30% flinch and the slightly increased accuracy...if only metagross had a better rock move.

After thinking it through 75 is way too little power in my opinion...Unless I did some math wrong or something...or if you guys have better reasoning

I also realized grass knot is special...
Jaedong :3
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
March 22 2011 23:45 GMT
#1349
I've seen some mixed Metagross builds though. Maybe Hammer Arm then? Then you'd get 100 BP neutral coverage on Skarmory.

But what about Gliscor? @_@
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
March 22 2011 23:56 GMT
#1350
... Man, no element punches on 'gross SUCKS lol. I've never thought about this before.
dave333
Profile Joined August 2010
United States915 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 23:57:14
March 22 2011 23:56 GMT
#1351
^You usually need to kill gliscor and bulky waters and skarmory, or weaken them a lot to use Metagross (at least back when I used him).

I personally preferred running explosion agiligross+gyarados since agiligross could do some damage, explode, and then gyarados could go on and sweep with a bulky water out of play. or you could reverse it, gyarados weaken the wall, agiligross starts killing stuff then blows up when its weak.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 23:59:56
March 22 2011 23:59 GMT
#1352
Too bad Explosion sucks now

I usually just have my Pokemon carry Ice Beam to fight Gliscor. And if I think they'll use Toxic/Fling their Toxic Orb (actually, that's all that the Gliscors I face do), I just switch to Skarmory. Then they switch for like Heatran or something.

I've gotten into quite a few stall wars where I ended up getting my opponent down to nothing but Gliscor because I would switch to Skarmory, and get him to switch for something else so that all his Pokemon die from my entry hazards. And I don't even run a stall team >.>
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Deltablazy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada580 Posts
March 23 2011 01:10 GMT
#1353
I know Dream world isn't out yet but does anyone have a japanese torchic/combusken/blaziken with speed boost?
dave333
Profile Joined August 2010
United States915 Posts
March 23 2011 01:30 GMT
#1354
Wait why does explosion suck now?
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 23 2011 01:34 GMT
#1355
On March 23 2011 10:30 dave333 wrote:
Wait why does explosion suck now?


It no longer halves the defense of the enemy pokemon, so getting a one for one trade that became expected in gen 4 is much less likely.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
March 23 2011 06:21 GMT
#1356
WHERE THE FUCK IS AUTO LV 100 VIA WIFI? I AM FREAKING OUT HERE!

please somebody answer me
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 21:01:37
March 23 2011 20:56 GMT
#1357
On March 23 2011 04:04 ReketSomething wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 20:35 Jayme wrote:
On March 22 2011 17:49 ReketSomething wrote:
I just finished IV / EV train my agility gross and I realized that it can't learn ice/thunder punch as that was a gen IV only thing.

I guess ill give it explosion or something...

sigh.....


Uh what is your gross using right now?

Meteor Mash
Agility
uh Earthquake at least right?

Then what?


My point exactly. Nothing lol.

edit: i guess my options are now zen headbutt (psychic), rock slide (rock), grass knot (grass), brick break/hammer arm (fighting)

psychic gives 2x against fighting, grass against ground and water, rock against flying+bug and 30% flinch chance. and fighting against normal+dark

any recommendations?


Zen headbutt or Brick Break.

Elemental punches always had shit power to begin with, at least in my opinion. I ran a MM/EQ/Brick Break/Exp set. Now Explo sucks so may as well go for four coverage attacks. I'd probably get Brick Break on your set because Psychic isn't an awesome attacking type anyway while fighting is amazing.

Brick Break also has the nice bonus of removing LS and Reflect so...yea get that.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 21:31:22
March 23 2011 21:20 GMT
#1358
On March 24 2011 05:56 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 04:04 ReketSomething wrote:
On March 22 2011 20:35 Jayme wrote:
On March 22 2011 17:49 ReketSomething wrote:
I just finished IV / EV train my agility gross and I realized that it can't learn ice/thunder punch as that was a gen IV only thing.

I guess ill give it explosion or something...

sigh.....


Uh what is your gross using right now?

Meteor Mash
Agility
uh Earthquake at least right?

Then what?


My point exactly. Nothing lol.

edit: i guess my options are now zen headbutt (psychic), rock slide (rock), grass knot (grass), brick break/hammer arm (fighting)

psychic gives 2x against fighting, grass against ground and water, rock against flying+bug and 30% flinch chance. and fighting against normal+dark

any recommendations?


Zen headbutt or Brick Break.

Elemental punches always had shit power to begin with, at least in my opinion. I ran a MM/EQ/Brick Break/Exp set. Now Explo sucks so may as well go for four coverage attacks. I'd probably get Brick Break on your set because Psychic isn't an awesome attacking type anyway while fighting is amazing.

Brick Break also has the nice bonus of removing LS and Reflect so...yea get that.


Still pretty likely to get walled by skarmory, though (neutral coverage and only 75 power)
Kinda moving away from using metagross at all Steel and Psychic just never were great attacking types, and with explosion getting gutted... yeah.

Zen headbutt / hammer arm or brick break / EQ / Meteor Mash if you do use metagross i guess?

On March 22 2011 16:30 ScarletKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 10:25 Ferrose wrote:
Yeah, I ended up replacing Starmie's Recover with Ice Beam, to fight Gliscors. My strategy before was just to send out Skarmory to neuter their Toxic >.>

About the priority: I'm totally open to changing my team around to improve it. But the reason I'm asking for help is because I have no idea what to change.

Thank you for your input

Edit @ adeezy: It's called Pokemon Online. Just Google it.


I would recommend replacing Bug Bite with X-Scissor on Scizor. Better physical attack to take advantage of of Scizors massive ATK.

Nope, bug bite is stronger because of Technician. +50% boost = 90 effective power (X-scis is 80)

What about Pursuit on your Scizor? Would give ghosts nightmares and they can't even switch out.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
March 23 2011 21:34 GMT
#1359
Should I replace Brick Break with Pursuit on my Scizor? Then I'd have no Fighting moves :x

God, building my team is so stressful. I want to be able to counter everything but it's impossible >.<
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
TALegion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1187 Posts
March 23 2011 22:42 GMT
#1360
On March 23 2011 03:04 cannavaro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 02:25 anilusion wrote:
On March 22 2011 13:05 Ferrose wrote:
[image loading]


Why are they hating on him?



Because he put an Everstone (item that prevents evolution) on Shelmet, a Pokemon that only evolves when traded vs. a Karrablast.

I'm not one for pokemon lore (or, any video game lore, for that matter), but this makes me curious.
What's the reasoning behind this?
Karrablast looks like it should evolve into Shelmet's evolved form, and vice versa. Why?
What kind of reasonings/explanation for this is there?
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