Well that was funny, some japanese guy stole his gurdurr for a boldore 3 lvls higher, and then we figure out how to trade :D cheers for the help ani. welll swap more later am sure!

Ferrose

United States11378 Posts

March 21 2011 22:35 GMT

#1307

I am so embarrassed. I was down to Scizor and Skarmory against this guy, and all he had left was Victreebell. He swept my last two Pokemon with Fire type Weather Ball : |

Anyway, do you guys think you could help me patch up my team?

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This is my competitive team. I use a battle simulator, so IVs are all 31.

Porygon2 @ Eviolite
Trait: Analytic
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt (someone told me to use Charge Beam instead for the Special Attack boost)
- Recover
- Magic Coat

This is my lead. It destroys other leads. If someone uses say, Aerodactyl, I just use Magic Coat for free Stealth Rocks or Taunt or whatever, and if it's an attacking lead like Infernape, I just switch out to a counter. It also makes a great wall for the late game.

Scizor (F) @ Life Orb
Trait: Technician
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Bullet Punch
- Brick Break
- Bug Bite

I tried to build the team around Scizor, because it's one of my favorite Pokemon. This is a pretty standard build, just utilizing his powerful STAB Technician attacks. I used Brick Break over Superpower because I'm not really into the whole lowering my defenses thing.

Starmie @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Rapid Spin
- Surf
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam

Since Scizor has a 4x weakness to Fire, and will be hampered by entry hazards, I figured I need a Rapid Spinner and a good anti-Fire type. Luckily Starmie is both of those in one package.

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 248 HP / 228 SDef / 32 Spd
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Roost
- Thunder Wave
- Heat Wave

Zapdos is to help Starmie, by resisting Grass and Electric attacks. I use a specially defensive build aimed at support, using Thunder Wave for a lot of paralysis.

Skarmory (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Roost
- Stealth Rock
- Brave Bird
- Whirlwind

Skarmory is my physical wall. It also lays my team's entry hazards, and is my Phazer.

Garchomp (F) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Sand Veil
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw (someone told me to use Crunch in this slot to help with Ghosts)
- Stone Edge

Since I have two Pokemon who are weak to Electric, I figured I'd need a good Ground type, and that is Garchomp. He also acts as my revenge killer.

I've played about 25 matches with this team, and some problems I've noticed are that I am pretty much screwed against Ghosts and Gliscor. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to patch up my team?

adeezy

United States1428 Posts

March 22 2011 01:01 GMT

#1308

does battle simulator have black and white pokemon and all that already?

Ferrose

United States11378 Posts

March 22 2011 01:07 GMT

#1309

Yeah. I just haven't been able to figure a gen V Pokemon into my team. : /

I tried Sigilyph and Haxorus, but three Pokemon weak to Electric was not cutting it. So I switched them up for Zapdos and Garchomp respectively.

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

March 22 2011 01:19 GMT

#1310

A porygon2 lead seems very odd, but if you can manage prediction-wise, it seems solid. You will need to conserve it though if gliscor is your issue, seeing it has your only ice move. You could consider mixing that starmie up.

Also one priority move + one scarf may seem plenty, but you might want to consider another mon with priority. But overall your team seems solid. I think any problems you have with ghosts in general can be solved by zapdos/chomp/scizor and some good prediction. I'd imagine you would have a little trouble versus well built weather teams but everyone has trouble versus well built weather teams.

It's hard to stay defensively oriented in this gen, but dont be a sheep and go full offense like everyone else!

adeezy

United States1428 Posts

March 22 2011 01:22 GMT

#1311

Where do you play this stuff? Haven't really jumped into that scene in a long time.

Ferrose

United States11378 Posts

March 22 2011 01:25 GMT

#1312

Yeah, I ended up replacing Starmie's Recover with Ice Beam, to fight Gliscors. My strategy before was just to send out Skarmory to neuter their Toxic >.>

About the priority: I'm totally open to changing my team around to improve it. But the reason I'm asking for help is because I have no idea what to change.

Thank you for your input

Edit @ adeezy: It's called Pokemon Online. Just Google it.

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

March 22 2011 02:41 GMT

#1313

No probs! I've been using every variant of a trickroom team you can think of, and here is one that catches people so off guard.

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Bronzong @ Lum Berry
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 152 Atk / 8 Def / 96 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Trick Room
- Gyro Ball
- Explosion
- Stealth Rock

Kurimugan (Druddigon) (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Mold Breaker
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Outrage
- Sucker Punch
- Superpower
- Earthquake

Rankurusu (Reuniclus) (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Trick Room
- Psychic
- Focus Blast
- Shadow Ball

Vaporeon (M) @ Choice Specs
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 44 HP / 212 Def / 252 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power [Electric]
- Signal Beam

Rhyperior (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Solid Rock
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Def
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Swords Dance
- Fire Punch

Burungeru (Jellicent) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Cursed Body
EVs: 248 HP
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Scald
- Will-O-Wisp
- Trick Room
- Recover

The consistently best pokes I've run have to be Bronong, Reuniclus and rhyperior. The first two are nearly impossible to stop from setting up TR without taunt, and rhyperior even surprises me with what he can survive and what he can KO. People should definitely be aware of these pokes. I used to run bouffolant who had such great synergy with vaporeon and rhyperior, but he's kinda out classed, as he usually kills himself after killing breloom, and his sweeping does't last that long even after ferrothorn leech seeds him. Im testing users for choice items under TR, as I find the good opponents will just attempt to switch stall your TR turns, so that extra boost to power often suprises them. Druddigon is lovely in TR, and that sucker punch is so handy. I for one welcome a slow dragon who is "outclassed". Vaporeon with choice specs is frightening and it's bulk is incredible. jellicent is kinda of a TR placeholder for now, as I really need a ghost who can set up TR, and cofagrigus is too physically defensive, which my team does not need.

I would try out TR if I were you, because it hard counters speed addicts. Unsurprisingly, the not so popular stall teams are really effective versus this, as they are actually use to switching around constantly to dodge threats and phaze things. Priority I can handle, but some people use a ridiculous amount of pokes with priority that I don't even bother setting up TR sometimes.

Ferrose

United States11378 Posts

March 22 2011 04:05 GMT

#1314

dave333

United States915 Posts

March 22 2011 04:08 GMT

#1315

Does Shoddy battle or some sort of emulator have Gen 5 yet? I was pretty beast at Shoddy Battle with smogon during gen 4

Ferrose

United States11378 Posts

March 22 2011 04:12 GMT

#1316

On March 22 2011 13:08 dave333 wrote:
Does Shoddy battle or some sort of emulator have Gen 5 yet? I was pretty beast at Shoddy Battle with smogon during gen 4

On March 22 2011 10:25 Ferrose wrote:
Edit @ adeezy: It's called Pokemon Online. Just Google it.

dave333

United States915 Posts

March 22 2011 04:43 GMT

#1317

Sweet thanks. I assume smogon has some good info on the new pokes? Can't wait to try making some new teams out.

Ferrose

United States11378 Posts

March 22 2011 04:44 GMT

#1318

Yeah, for most of them you just have to search around for the threads with the analyses/discussions.

Avaloch

241 Posts

March 22 2011 07:08 GMT

#1319

On March 21 2011 07:47 Dark-Storm wrote:

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I know a lot of people got White because Zekrom is apparently better

I got White because I thought Zekrom looked nicer :D

ScarletKnight

United States691 Posts

March 22 2011 07:30 GMT

#1320

On March 22 2011 10:25 Ferrose wrote:
Yeah, I ended up replacing Starmie's Recover with Ice Beam, to fight Gliscors. My strategy before was just to send out Skarmory to neuter their Toxic >.>

About the priority: I'm totally open to changing my team around to improve it. But the reason I'm asking for help is because I have no idea what to change.

Thank you for your input

Edit @ adeezy: It's called Pokemon Online. Just Google it.

I would recommend replacing Bug Bite with X-Scissor on Scizor. Better physical attack to take advantage of of Scizors massive ATK.