EPTNew Desk CMV, featuring Chun-Li.
Here's this week's Wakeup SRK podcast featuring Desk as well: http://shoryuken.com/content/wakeup-shoryuken-e051-desk-top-publishing-3706/
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TieN.nS)
United States2131 Posts
New Desk CMV, featuring Chun-Li. Here's this week's Wakeup SRK podcast featuring Desk as well: http://shoryuken.com/content/wakeup-shoryuken-e051-desk-top-publishing-3706/ | ||
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Zeroes
United States1102 Posts
On February 24 2011 05:11 PrideNeverDie wrote: i think a ban/pick phase would help a lot in the competitive scene. it would force players to be more well-rounded and see more creative and interesting combos other than the usual type S. This isn't DotA, get out of here with that. lol MvC3 =/ other fighting games either, its good to keep an open mind Ban/draft would be awesome for mvc3 since there are 3 characters to pick and you have to learn multiple characters anyway to make the best team. Also draft would broaden the number of characters you see in high level play and increase the skill cap which all the pros are complaining about since the combo system and controls are dumbed down. | ||
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shwaffles
United States117 Posts
On February 24 2011 06:32 Zeroes wrote: MvC3 =/ other fighting games either, its good to keep an open mind Ban/draft would be awesome for mvc3 since there are 3 characters to pick and you have to learn multiple characters anyway to make the best team. Also draft would broaden the number of characters you see in high level play and increase the skill cap which all the pros are complaining about since the combo system and controls are dumbed down. That would be an awful idea. Banning top characters just leads to the downward spiral of banning the next top characters. Coupled with the fact that this game is barely a week old, it would do nothing but slow down development. | ||
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Zeroes
United States1102 Posts
On February 24 2011 07:04 shwaffles wrote: That would be an awful idea. Banning top characters just leads to the downward spiral of banning the next top characters. Coupled with the fact that this game is barely a week old, it would do nothing but slow down development. do you know how the ban/draft system works? you only get 1 ban if you ban the next top characters then they could pick the top characters. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On February 24 2011 07:04 shwaffles wrote: That would be an awful idea. Banning top characters just leads to the downward spiral of banning the next top characters. Coupled with the fact that this game is barely a week old, it would do nothing but slow down development. um...no. Since the "top" characters all work well due to team synergy banning just 1 of them makes some teams unplayable - you either pick a brand new team to fight a different way or try a new character to compete with your other 2. | ||
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Wesso
Netherlands1245 Posts
On February 24 2011 06:32 Zeroes wrote: MvC3 =/ other fighting games either, its good to keep an open mind Ban/draft would be awesome for mvc3 since there are 3 characters to pick and you have to learn multiple characters anyway to make the best team. Also draft would broaden the number of characters you see in high level play and increase the skill cap which all the pros are complaining about since the combo system and controls are dumbed down. It would be a pretty bad idea IMO. In fighting games, everything comes down to how well you know your character. The exact range, exact frame duration of every single move. Banning another persons best character is almost as bad as making him offrace in SC2. It is even worse in team games like MvC. The teams people play are balanced around eachother, if you ban one of the 3 characters, the player most likely needs to play an entirely different team. Of course, it could be fun on a lower level, as an optional feature. | ||
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AlecPyron
United States131 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On February 24 2011 07:16 Ace wrote: um...no. Since the "top" characters all work well due to team synergy banning just 1 of them makes some teams unplayable - you either pick a brand new team to fight a different way or try a new character to compete with your other 2. You would think so, but it doesn't progress like this. For example, in MvC2, all the low-tier teams used Tron's assist and most of them abused the shit out of one aspect of the character, aka run-while-building-meter then look for windows. Like Blackheart is considered a one dimensional top (1st or 2nd under god) tier character, but it doesn't make it any more creative, because you're essentially doing the same thing of trying to set up that punishing trap over and over and over again. You would think it would get more creative, but it really doesn't, it just gets more specialized and repetitive. You'll just see the next tier of teams being used and so on, it doesn't mean you are a more complete or skilled player either. If teams were the end all, then you wouldn't always see the same faces (relatively) at the live competitions finals. Anyways, there was quite amount of history of all of the teams used in MvC2, including some that weren't considered good at its release (cough Storm cough), so give MvC3 some time before attempting to tinker and fix a system that you really don't know how it will play out. PS - Team synergy is hilarious at this point in MvC3's release, by the pro-drafter's logic, at a similar point in MvC2's release, Strider, Doom, and Blackheart would all end up on someone's ban list in a competition. | ||
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Rakanishu2
United States475 Posts
On February 24 2011 05:13 TieN.nS) wrote: This isn't DotA, get out of here with that. lol Yea, games are required to be completely different in every aspect or it causes a black hole. | ||
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Trumpet
United States1935 Posts
This isn't one of those times. I'm not practicing the shit out of a character, learning a ton of different variations for enders, where you can roll, where to go to keep pressure, different setups etc. only to have you say "NO STORM LOLOLOL" I'm sure marvel 2 would have been so much more entertaining if every time someone played sanford they just said "no sentinel!" or vs yipes "No magneto!" Next, for the osl finals, we tell Jaedong "No, Mr.Dong, you now can only play Protoss lololololol" We'll get MUCH higher level games that way, I'm sure. Breesus Christ, I can't believe this discussion is even happening. | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
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Ginseng
United States268 Posts
Personally speaking, if you guys really want to improve, you would need to have some practice partners or groups to really train with. With the advent of sf4 and mvc3, there should be a lot more local gatherings or players wanting to get better at new-gen fighting games, so finding a scene shouldn't be too hard. Offline practice gives people so much more reward compared to online, and you get in-person feedback and a real sense of how you compare vs other players around your level. Also, by playing in a more competitive setting (not online), you can learn a lot more about yourself as a player, and the community as a whole. You start making better decisions and judgement about the community around you. | ||
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TieN.nS)
United States2131 Posts
On February 24 2011 07:58 Trumpet wrote: Sometimes, these new ideas are worth consideration. This isn't one of those times. I'm not practicing the shit out of a character, learning a ton of different variations for enders, where you can roll, where to go to keep pressure, different setups etc. only to have you say "NO STORM LOLOLOL" I'm sure marvel 2 would have been so much more entertaining if every time someone played sanford they just said "no sentinel!" or vs yipes "No magneto!" Next, for the osl finals, we tell Jaedong "No, Mr.Dong, you now can only play Protoss lololololol" We'll get MUCH higher level games that way, I'm sure. Breesus Christ, I can't believe this discussion is even happening. I definitely wasn't expecting any more posts about this when I clicked on the topic. lol. Desk comes up with some ridiculous shit and all people want to talk about is trying to shoehorn DotA conventions into other games? | ||
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blagoonga123
United States2068 Posts
I felt completely bored and a little disgusted with myself though so I decided to play my own style. Turns out he was way better than me at that and I lost haha | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On February 24 2011 07:58 Trumpet wrote: Sometimes, these new ideas are worth consideration. This isn't one of those times. I'm not practicing the shit out of a character, learning a ton of different variations for enders, where you can roll, where to go to keep pressure, different setups etc. only to have you say "NO STORM LOLOLOL" I'm sure marvel 2 would have been so much more entertaining if every time someone played sanford they just said "no sentinel!" or vs yipes "No magneto!" Next, for the osl finals, we tell Jaedong "No, Mr.Dong, you now can only play Protoss lololololol" We'll get MUCH higher level games that way, I'm sure. Breesus Christ, I can't believe this discussion is even happening. Bans will happen over time. SF2Turbo Akuma was ignored at first, but people realized that he was severely broken, and thus proceeded to get banned from every tournament. I think calling the banhammer now seems ill-informed.. I remember SFIV tournaments banned Seth, but it turned out that Sagat, not Seth, was OP. | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
www.gamescast.tv/live/spooky | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
MAKE IT RAIN! SPIT ON THAT MOTHAFUCKA! dude Im digging mvc3 a lil... ive had some fun wit doom and sentinel | ||
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itsben
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
Link to that (when its up) will be www.gamescast.tv/live/lvlseries | ||
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