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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-06 23:09:10
April 06 2011 23:06 GMT
#61
Oh man, that's seriously unlucky then. At least you are kyuu rank. In a way it's a good thing since you are spending all your "bad luck" during the period when repurcussions are miniscule?
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
April 06 2011 23:19 GMT
#62
Ha ha, I wish that was the case. But often times I'm really unlucky and other times I'm pretty lucky, it's pretty streaky. Just now, I won 3 out of 4 rounds, for example. Well, I went fast riichi and didn't care about the points, but still...
cynical
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada589 Posts
April 06 2011 23:25 GMT
#63
you look at his pond and analyze what you think he's going for and proceed from there
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 00:59:25
April 06 2011 23:42 GMT
#64
I know how to play but it's not like they are going for any hands. And when there are only 2-4 tiles in the pond, you can't analyze anything anyway, especially when it's only wind+honor.

/edit: While I was in riichi, I just made someone win again...or rather, two. How is that possible? Doesn't normally win the one who is on the right side of me? But both won and I lost more than 240k points, what the hell? =(
And sometimes a round is restarted. Why is that the case?
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
April 07 2011 01:45 GMT
#65
On April 07 2011 08:42 Lucumo wrote:
I know how to play but it's not like they are going for any hands. And when there are only 2-4 tiles in the pond, you can't analyze anything anyway, especially when it's only wind+honor.

/edit: While I was in riichi, I just made someone win again...or rather, two. How is that possible? Doesn't normally win the one who is on the right side of me? But both won and I lost more than 240k points, what the hell? =(
And sometimes a round is restarted. Why is that the case?


In Tenhou, there is no "head bump" in the rules: in fact, more than one person can Ron off of you. There have been occasions where three people ron on the same tile, and in fact this youtube video shows the resulting pain (although this is janryumon, not tenhou)



Players occasionally receive 9+ honor and end tiles in their hands. When this happens, they can choose to reveal their hand and start the round over. However, real men do not reveal their hand and go for the kokushi.
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cynical
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada589 Posts
April 07 2011 01:46 GMT
#66
On April 07 2011 08:42 Lucumo wrote:
I know how to play but it's not like they are going for any hands. And when there are only 2-4 tiles in the pond, you can't analyze anything anyway, especially when it's only wind+honor.

/edit: While I was in riichi, I just made someone win again...or rather, two. How is that possible? Doesn't normally win the one who is on the right side of me? But both won and I lost more than 240k points, what the hell? =(
And sometimes a round is restarted. Why is that the case?


That is what's called the double ron(or however you spell it). If two people are waiting on the same tile, you have to pay out to them both.

As for the round restart, if the dealer wins a hand(whoever is east wind is the dealer) the winds do not pass and you have a second set with the same winds.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
April 07 2011 02:35 GMT
#67
On April 07 2011 10:45 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 08:42 Lucumo wrote:
I know how to play but it's not like they are going for any hands. And when there are only 2-4 tiles in the pond, you can't analyze anything anyway, especially when it's only wind+honor.

/edit: While I was in riichi, I just made someone win again...or rather, two. How is that possible? Doesn't normally win the one who is on the right side of me? But both won and I lost more than 240k points, what the hell? =(
And sometimes a round is restarted. Why is that the case?


In Tenhou, there is no "head bump" in the rules: in fact, more than one person can Ron off of you. There have been occasions where three people ron on the same tile, and in fact this youtube video shows the resulting pain (although this is janryumon, not tenhou)

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHh0sT39vp0&feature=related

Ouch, lol. At least my situation wasn't that bad but losing to two Rons still hurts.

On April 07 2011 10:46 cynical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 08:42 Lucumo wrote:
I know how to play but it's not like they are going for any hands. And when there are only 2-4 tiles in the pond, you can't analyze anything anyway, especially when it's only wind+honor.

/edit: While I was in riichi, I just made someone win again...or rather, two. How is that possible? Doesn't normally win the one who is on the right side of me? But both won and I lost more than 240k points, what the hell? =(
And sometimes a round is restarted. Why is that the case?

As for the round restart, if the dealer wins a hand(whoever is east wind is the dealer) the winds do not pass and you have a second set with the same winds.

But why do they start the round in the first place? I mean, they start, then 2-3 tiles are being played and then the round restarts.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 03:04:32
April 07 2011 03:03 GMT
#68
On April 07 2011 11:35 Lucumo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 10:45 Caller wrote:
On April 07 2011 08:42 Lucumo wrote:
I know how to play but it's not like they are going for any hands. And when there are only 2-4 tiles in the pond, you can't analyze anything anyway, especially when it's only wind+honor.

/edit: While I was in riichi, I just made someone win again...or rather, two. How is that possible? Doesn't normally win the one who is on the right side of me? But both won and I lost more than 240k points, what the hell? =(
And sometimes a round is restarted. Why is that the case?


In Tenhou, there is no "head bump" in the rules: in fact, more than one person can Ron off of you. There have been occasions where three people ron on the same tile, and in fact this youtube video shows the resulting pain (although this is janryumon, not tenhou)

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHh0sT39vp0&feature=related

Ouch, lol. At least my situation wasn't that bad but losing to two Rons still hurts.

Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 10:46 cynical wrote:
On April 07 2011 08:42 Lucumo wrote:
I know how to play but it's not like they are going for any hands. And when there are only 2-4 tiles in the pond, you can't analyze anything anyway, especially when it's only wind+honor.

/edit: While I was in riichi, I just made someone win again...or rather, two. How is that possible? Doesn't normally win the one who is on the right side of me? But both won and I lost more than 240k points, what the hell? =(
And sometimes a round is restarted. Why is that the case?

As for the round restart, if the dealer wins a hand(whoever is east wind is the dealer) the winds do not pass and you have a second set with the same winds.

But why do they start the round in the first place? I mean, they start, then 2-3 tiles are being played and then the round restarts.

there are several different scnearios that lead to a draw, one being having 9 terminal and honor tiles, another being if the same wind is discarded by all players, and even one where 4 kans are made total (combined at least by 2 different players, one player that makes 4 kans is a yakuman)

Anyways I'm going to consider starting up a weekly mahjong game, starting this Friday. PM me if you're interested and what times you'll be available, and I'll look for a ventrilo/teamspeak something that we can use.
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
cyxx
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3 Posts
April 07 2011 03:04 GMT
#69

But why do they start the round in the first place? I mean, they start, then 2-3 tiles are being played and then the round restarts.


There are a couple reasons why rounds can restart mid game. They're all here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahjong#Abortive_draws
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
April 07 2011 03:48 GMT
#70
I just got hotei raoyui'd on tenhou. Feels bad.
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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
April 07 2011 12:14 GMT
#71
Caller
However, real men do not reveal their hand and go for the kokushi.

And I choose to take the cowardly way out and go for the nagashi mangan xD

Either way like to join but my activity will likely drop off sharply with finals one week from now. Bah.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
April 07 2011 17:38 GMT
#72
On April 07 2011 21:14 Hesmyrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
Caller
However, real men do not reveal their hand and go for the kokushi.

And I choose to take the cowardly way out and go for the nagashi mangan xD

Either way like to join but my activity will likely drop off sharply with finals one week from now. Bah.

don't matter just let me know when after finals is good
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 20:55:33
April 07 2011 20:52 GMT
#73
Here's a game that well demonstrates importance of state of mind.

04/08 | 牌譜 | 上南喰赤 | http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2011040804gm-0089-0000-xb46386618d21&tw=2
4位 Hyrrh(-40.0) radiohea(+64.0) Nyakasen(-26.0) ・グリムジョー・(+2.0)

So I was having what one would call a "good flow" and is in commanding lead, then gets freaking disconnected in middle of East-4. Comes hurrying back but not before I get Baiman'd (12000pts) by retarded AI . Rest is me completely losing my composure, trying to push every hand in risky fashion in order to get the first place I "deserved" back, and promptly failing down to 4th.

...Don't play like this.

Edit: @Caller
Not sure, but I'll probably know more after 20th.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
April 07 2011 21:27 GMT
#74
On April 08 2011 05:52 Hesmyrr wrote:
So I was having what one would call a "good flow" and is in commanding lead, then gets freaking disconnected in middle of East-4. Comes hurrying back but not before I get Baiman'd (12000pts) by retarded AI .

Haha, happened to me yesterday as well. It sucks so much D:

btw: Isn't 'full hanchan' supposed to be at least 8 rounds long? But it often ends before that...
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
April 07 2011 21:50 GMT
#75
Are you sure you are playing on the option I marked with red? There indeed should be 8 rounds; 4 East and 4 South.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
April 07 2011 21:59 GMT
#76
On April 08 2011 06:50 Hesmyrr wrote:
Are you sure you are playing on the option I marked with red? There indeed should be 8 rounds; 4 East and 4 South.

Nah, I play the one below, the fast one Shouldn't make a difference though but it often ends after 5-6 rounds or so which is weird. Hm, maybe they transfer me to the East only one because they can't find any players?
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
April 07 2011 22:03 GMT
#77
Weird. I don't think they move player around.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
April 07 2011 22:06 GMT
#78
Just checked it, I'm pretty sure. My last game was 8 rounds long, the one before was 5 rounds long. And I'm 100% sure I clicked 'full hanchan', both times.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
April 07 2011 22:14 GMT
#79
Do you have link for the 5 rounds long game? Might help in knowing what is wrong, if you are certain you have clicked the same option repeatedly.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
cyxx
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 22:30:06
April 07 2011 22:24 GMT
#80
If someone dips below 0 the game ends. On the other end, if it's the final round of a tonpuusen or tonnansen and everyone is below 30k points, it continues to the next wind round

It's even possible for the game to end on the very first round if the oya keeps winning and brings someone down below 0 on tenhou
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