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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 00:38:53
March 29 2011 21:07 GMT
#21
SORRY FOR BUMPING THIS THREAD BUT FUCK ME NINE CONSECUTIVE FOURTH PLACES WTF
I KNOW I SUCK BUT JESUS CHRIST

Edit: btw Hesmyrr -> Hyrrh, current R15601555.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
March 31 2011 00:38 GMT
#22
Since it saddens me how riichi mahjong is generally unappreciated (I suspect so from activity level of this thread), I'll hijack this thing and fill it with tale of my woes.

I played five games today and failed in all (4-3-2-4-4), which severely makes me suspect I am missing some essentials in order to be successful. I'll post my three recent games- can any good player please advise me on what seem to be my flaws?

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2011033107gm-0089-0000-xdee083a035b1&tw=0
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2011033108gm-0089-0000-x1053a762b26f&tw=2
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2011033109gm-0089-0000-xd375267b7cb7&tw=3

Also I do know basic yaku, and little bit about tile efficiency, but find it hard to follow during the seemingly meager time interval I am provided with (15s). Does such rapid analysis come with experience, or is there any special method you can use to better recollect your thoughts in-game?
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
fams
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada731 Posts
March 31 2011 00:48 GMT
#23
Mahjong is very easy once you get the hang of it, the thing is, depending on what region in China you are in (or other parts of the world too I guess) - the rules tend to change...a lot.

For instance, the rules I learned when staying in Beijing last summer, were WAY different than these ones. Most versions are very similar though, just variations on certain rules, or additions of other rules.

The game is way more fun than playing poker or black jack though I find. Id suggest you look into it if you are looking for a really fun social game : )
http://www.twitter.com/famsytron/
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 00:59:16
March 31 2011 00:58 GMT
#24
To my knowledge neither China/Korea/Japan share same rules, which is frustrating. My favourite has always been riichi mahjong (Japanese variation) though- I don't even know how to play the others. I guess because I am more familiar of it due to Akagi & Saki & Ten Toori.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 01:50:16
March 31 2011 01:47 GMT
#25
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2011033107gm-0089-0000-xdee083a035b1&tw=0
In the third game, the last tile you drew was a 3 sou, after which you dealt the 4 sou. Nothing bad happened, but why did you deal that tile? The south player is obviously in tenpai. You could argue that he's going for honitsu with manzu, so all other suits will be safe, but you don't know that. It's best to play it safe and keep defending. Heck, you're at least three tiles from tenpai - it's faaar too late to try building up your hand. It's just not worth the risk. Dealing the 3 pin would've been a better choice. You already dealt the 3 pin out earlier, and it passed, so why didn't you just do that again?

Didn't really see anything else that was too bad. There were times when I thought you were calling tiles too quickly though. Try not too limit your options too early unless you're sure that you can end the round fast. Don't underestimate the power of being able to riichi.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 02:07:15
March 31 2011 02:00 GMT
#26
http://tenhou.net/0/?L7447

come play with me

SCHNELL

as for Hesmyrr:

You call way too much. In this one, http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2011033107gm-0089-0000-xdee083a035b1&tw=0, South 1st round for example, you called like four times and threw away your all simples pinfu three-colored-straight (i.e. tanpin sanshoku), also making it blatantly obvious that your hand was tanyao dora 1, which let them have easy pickings on discards. Its better to not call until you absolutely have to, like another situation where you're behind 3k points and the first discard is a Chun, and you immediately call and proceed to toss away your potential DaiSanGen.
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Gospo
Profile Joined April 2010
United States32 Posts
March 31 2011 03:42 GMT
#27
Had a post written up but I'm not in much of a position to really try to give people advice. If you guys play often though and want to have some strategy discussion I'd probably be active in the thread.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
March 31 2011 15:07 GMT
#28
Just played pretty entertaining game, filled with my usual mistakes (such as misclicking a button which causes me to forego fanpai pon, and walking into blatant chinitsu) and unexpected end result.
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2011033123gm-0089-0000-xb75b1f9fc5fd&tw=2

Also the English room is like a ghost town up there. Clicked on the tap throughout the MSL Group 12 match and had only like one person joining me the whole time. Also Gospo, I'm sure I am at a level where I can appreciate everyone's input. At least definitely something for me to consider.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Dagon
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania264 Posts
March 31 2011 15:29 GMT
#29
On January 29 2010 11:43 Caller wrote:
if you guys want i can stream tenhou every now and then ^^


That would be awesome! I am highly interested in all kinds of asian games.. Allmost shodan at Go, some 12-10 kyu at shogi, some experience with riichi mahjong; i would love to play with someone.. We could create a list of interested people and maybe play some time, talk over skype or smth.. Would be great.

For people that did not try to play online yet, like me, i strongly recommend a program called "Four Seasons", as it does not have auto-riichi, auto-ron/tsumo and you can get used to tile combinations and waits easier like this..

Tellme what you think about the list ideea..
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
March 31 2011 16:00 GMT
#30
Post your username in this thread and poke around in case people want to play.

Users:
Caller--> Challera

(very end of this OP)

I think this counts as your idea for the "list", except that he hadn't updated it like forever despite me posting mine (Hesmyrr--> Hyrrh). Moreso anyone who has access to mafia forum would know better than placing the role of list manager solely on the hands of Caller... right? If we do manage to get this thing though, what client should we use? Touhou is awesome, but not really optimal if you want to play with specific player...

Also seconding the stream idea.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 17:01:47
March 31 2011 17:01 GMT
#31
On December 23 2010 10:51 Spazer wrote:
  • In Japanese, the player that deals out the winning piece pays the entire worth of the hand. In Cantonese, all players must pay the person with the winning hand, although the person that dealt the winning tile must pay more.



This is actually the same for the Chinese rules. The player that deals out the winning piece pays the entire worth of the hand.
靈魂交響曲
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 03:36:40
April 01 2011 23:05 GMT
#32
Is anyone up for a game? Currently waiting for players at the Tenhou English channel - http://tenhou.net/0/?L7447 - though I'd accept better alternatives (also have mahjongtimes ID though the format of that website is uncomfortable to me for some reason) as well.

Edit: No longer valid. I will definitely be available for lengthy amount of time during April 5th (East Canadian time) if anyone is interested.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-04 17:22:46
April 04 2011 17:08 GMT
#33
Recent game ranks: 1-2-2-4-1-1.
"All right! I am starting to get my groove back!"

+ Show Spoiler +
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FUCK.
YOU.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
April 04 2011 21:03 GMT
#34
Is there a reason why you kept the 9-wan? I can't see the discards, but I would have dumped that shit a while back.
Get it by your hands...
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
April 05 2011 13:06 GMT
#35
Played it on library computer so don't have replay now. Think my draws were just bad though.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
April 05 2011 23:34 GMT
#36
Hm, how do you register there? Just by typing the name and clicking "OK"? Probably not.

Anyway, tried to join but it says: "このプレーヤ名を使用するにはIDで入場する必要があります"
Gliche
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States811 Posts
April 05 2011 23:55 GMT
#37
wow i'm definitely going to check this stuff out. i think richii mahjong is definitely the best mahjong although i think the richii is slightly overpowered. i wish there were different forms of richii to lessen how much someone can just luck their way into a high scoring hand without development in the rest of the game.

are you guys playing for money on that website or is it just a matchmaking system?
KT fighting~!! | Designing things is fun!
Xinliben
Profile Joined May 2009
United States931 Posts
April 06 2011 00:09 GMT
#38
On April 06 2011 08:34 Lucumo wrote:
Hm, how do you register there? Just by typing the name and clicking "OK"? Probably not.

Anyway, tried to join but it says: "このプレーヤ名を使用するにはIDで入場する必要があります"


Use a different name, someone already registered that name.
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery"
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
April 06 2011 00:12 GMT
#39
On April 06 2011 09:09 Xinliben wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 08:34 Lucumo wrote:
Hm, how do you register there? Just by typing the name and clicking "OK"? Probably not.

Anyway, tried to join but it says: "このプレーヤ名を使用するにはIDで入場する必要があります"


Use a different name, someone already registered that name.

Pretty sure it was me but I never used any password. So if it's my account, how can I login with it?
cynical
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada589 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-06 00:47:55
April 06 2011 00:33 GMT
#40
Man i can't believe there's a thread for this. I didn't think anybody knew about tenhou but me. Give me a PM if you want to game it up. 3 Dan player.

On a side note, I had a picture of me hitting 13 orphans but I lost it You believe me right? :D
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