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Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
December 10 2009 22:33 GMT
#121
On December 11 2009 06:47 Skyze wrote:
Whats more lame than playing videogames all your life?? REVIEWING videogames all your life! This author is even more pathetic.


Agreed, video game journalists are really the bottom of the barrel.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32056 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-10 22:34:30
December 10 2009 22:33 GMT
#122
On December 11 2009 06:47 Skyze wrote:
Whats more lame than playing videogames all your life?? REVIEWING videogames all your life! This author is even more pathetic.

Yes. Getting paid to do something you enjoy is totally pathetic.


^^^^
Totally true, but it gets you a paycheck, whereas grinding away at WOW does not!
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
December 10 2009 22:44 GMT
#123
The people passing judgement in this thread amaze me... especially considering where some of the comments are coming from (see, I can do it too! )
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snowbird
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Germany2044 Posts
December 10 2009 23:25 GMT
#124
Congrats to the guy.

No congrats to people jumping on the WoW hatewagon.
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eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
December 10 2009 23:29 GMT
#125
On December 11 2009 06:47 Skyze wrote:
Whats more lame than playing videogames all your life?? REVIEWING videogames all your life! This author is even more pathetic.


i dont think that's pathetic at all 0_o

the journalist is just a douche, and I'm jealous that he gets paid to do something he's terrible at.
AtlaS
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1001 Posts
December 10 2009 23:33 GMT
#126
On December 10 2009 18:48 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2009 17:26 barth wrote:
Does stuff like this actually require some skill or just months of playing?
i'm actually curious about this matter as well. is this inherently difficult to do or just require massive amounts of grinding?

edit: i guess meta sort of answers the question.

It's a kind of a mix of both but it definitely leans towards the latter. Arena does take a bit of skill (nothing close to starcraft though, I bet most players who are C or better on ICCup could have a 2200+ rating (pretty close to the highest rating you can get) easily if they had the right gear).

But the frustrating part about WoW is that it's not purely based on skill. You will have to grind a lot of hours (250-500+) in Battlegrounds to get the starter PvP set so that you won't get smashed in arena and then you have to wait to get enough arena points (you get a small amount every week, amount depending on your ranking) in order to start unlocking the next tier of gear, so that you can compete with the gear tier ahead of you. You can get to a reasonably high rating with average gear if you can work well with your teammate/teammates but it will still take a while to get the gear that competes with top rated teams.

It's a very slow, painful, and tedious process that is incredibly frustrating because if you don't get top gear by the end of a season, then when the next season (with new seasons come new gear, I think) starts, the same cycle will start all over again, where the rich get richer while the poor stays the same.

Basically, if you can get the gear necessary to compete for high ratings in arena, then it's pretty easy, just as long as you have pretty good reaction time, decent APM, and solid decision making.
I don't have mono anymore. Woooo!
Zexion
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden971 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-10 23:39:17
December 10 2009 23:37 GMT
#127
On December 11 2009 03:36 eMbrace wrote:
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Really sick of all the people who can't handle a fucking game(im not referring to the guy in the article). I played WoW since the day it came out and I quit earlier this summer (because I didn't like how easy it got with WOTLK).

Me and a few friends made our own guild which eventually got in the top 10 in the server, and did we ever have problems "handling" WoW? Hell no -- it only took like 15 hours a week tops to do all the content every week. It never interfered with real life. My friends kept girlfriends, we all did great in college that semester, and I look back on playing WoW and I honestly kind of miss it -- the game is amazing (or well, it was better before the newest expansion IMO).

The funny thing I realized though (besides people taking the time out of their day to read about WoW players and then to insult them), is that they have no idea just how social that game is.

Granted, most WoW players I meet in real life are like autistic, but you know what? -- they suck at the game. Why? Because they can't operate in a social environment at all. WoW is a really simple game, it's just that the raids really require you to work together and enjoy working together.

The kids who can't follow directions, contribute to a guild, be optimistic, or agree to a loot system really are just terrible at the game and are probably worse at real life.

My god, I talk to these guys that quit WoW and "got their life back" and usually they really aren't doing much else with their lives anyways.

Yeah, you quit WoW -- now your back on online forums telling everyone your story, nice.


It's not addicting, you just suck as a person. Stop giving the game a bad rep.

lol, "can't live a happy life if you devote entire days to a game" -- i'd be jealous of anyone that enjoyed something that much.

sorry about the rant, and I'm aware most of the posts in here weren't anti-WoW.




Well written.

I'd like to add that there are SO MANY people who refuse to abandon those stupid stereotypes. I play WoW as well, and I think it's fun. Why? Because I have 10+ IRLs in the same guild (I'm close friends to like 5-6 of them.). And people say WoW isn't a social game, that every damn WoW players is a complete social failure.

Just a funny experience I've had: I once were at a party and I talked with a group of guys who were extremely anti-WoW. They had the usual prejudices about WoW players. You know, doing nothing else than mindless farming, raiding 6 times a week, no girlfriend or any social life at all. Now, the thing is, I was and I am still the only one among us who have a girlfriend and who graduated from college (I think that's the corresponding name for schools after 9th grade, (15 years old in Sweden)) with above average grades etc.

But hey, WoW isn't really as great as it was before. I had a 1,5 year break during TBC and then started playing again in September this year. It's fun now because I raid with people I know and that I like. But when I've killed Arthas, I'm not going to keep playing WoW No point at all it seems. And the ideas they've come up with for Cataclysm is just terrible. Most of them.

Besides, SC2 beta might be out by the time my guild get to Arthas :D
biomedical
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
235 Posts
December 10 2009 23:55 GMT
#128
On December 11 2009 06:35 -orb- wrote:
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lol


the character age is quite normal (depending on when he started of course), for the game i play
AtlaS
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1001 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-11 00:59:10
December 11 2009 00:00 GMT
#129
On December 11 2009 05:01 Saturnize wrote:
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On December 11 2009 04:18 zazen wrote:
You guys are just distorting the points that I and some people brought up.

Playing WoW and completing every single achievement available in the game are two completely different things.

You can play WoW with different amounts of dedication. beating every single achievement in the game, on the other hand, requires INSANE amounts of time spent and ultimate dedication - which is why no one else has ever done it before. it's not something you can just log on, chill out for a while and accomplish. it takes a lot of effort, more so than a full-time job. which is why I think this guy is "sick" and needs help.

On a last note, I'm not anti-wow, quite on the contrary, it's by far the best MMORPG ever designed, which is why I got so addicted in the first place. but as someone who had a heavily MMORPG addiction-induced depression in the past, I kinda feel like it's my job to tell people that gaming can have a very negative impact in your life if you stop doing other things in order to get more play time. this is bad just like drug addiction or any other addiction for that matter.

If you think I'm completly wrong by thinking like this, and believe it's just fine to spend 14-16 hours playing a game every day while life just passes by, well, then I guess you have a different outlook of life than I do. but that's fine, you do whatever you want with your time.

EDIT: Fixed some typos.


Alot of Starcraft progamers practice that much daily. Are they "sick?"


Idk if it's just me but I found that it's pretty hard to compare Starcraft and WoW on a personal level. I'm not going to talk about progamers because I would just be talking out of my ass. I simply don't know enough about the culture in Korea and how well is starcraft accepted as an actual career path.

Now, the big difference that I see between Starcraft and WoW is that Starcraft is so much easier to put down, and that's not because it is a worse game. It's just that if I had an appointment or a class that I had to go to and I was in the middle of a starcraft block, then I could easily just decide that "Oh, I have class/appointment/friends call to hang out in X amount of time, I'll leave after this game." It was a clear and easy cut off point. I have nothing invested into Starcraft after a game is over. I will not stand to lose or miss out on anything just because I decided to stop playing at that time. And even I'm in the middle of a game and I have to go immediately, what do I lose? Around 100 points? That's something that I can easily make up for with one win. I also rarely play games that are longer than 40 minutes so it's pretty safe and easy to just call a cut off point at an hour before I have to leave.

But for WoW, there are such different factors that require so much more time. For one, raids. They can last anywhere from 2 to 6 hours. And it's an actual commitment that you put out there. If you leave in the middle of a raid, then the guild leader will see that you're less reliable than others and will be less likely to pick you for the next raid. Not to mention the fact of all the potential gear and downing bosses for the first time that you will end up missing by leaving early (a lot of guilds would give bonus points for first time downs). I can't count how many times when I turned down hanging out with friends because I was in the middle of a raid.

Idk, it just interfered with events in my day too much.
I don't have mono anymore. Woooo!
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
December 11 2009 00:11 GMT
#130
I congratulate him. Now all he needs is like tier 20 items, of every class. Then he will officially complete the game.
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Xusneb
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada612 Posts
December 11 2009 00:16 GMT
#131
What can I say, I'm definitely impressed by his achievement. Personally, I think he went a bit too far but I also admire his ability to set an ambitious goal and accomplish it. As long as he derived self satisfaction and the playtime didn't disrupt his life to a level he didn't want, I say: meh, do what you like!
If you want to be happy, be. - Leo Tolstoy
GGYouMake
Profile Joined July 2009
United States69 Posts
December 11 2009 00:17 GMT
#132
what a nerd
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armed_
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada443 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-11 00:25:07
December 11 2009 00:22 GMT
#133
On December 11 2009 02:09 zazen wrote:
I could be wrong, but the point is you can't possibly live a happy life if you devote your entire days to playing a computer game.

The belief that people cannot possibly be happy in life unless they approach it the same way you do is the one thing that's truly disgusting in the world.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
December 11 2009 00:24 GMT
#134
On December 10 2009 16:56 GGQ wrote:
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On December 10 2009 16:54 Athos wrote:
He's a WoW player. He will probably achieve nothing else in life. Let the man have this.



Author is a dick. He reviews videogames for a living and has the nerve to say that this guy is wasting his life.


Not sure he's being serious, just playing off of popular stereotypes.

I play WoW and I can't imagine having that many achievements. That's some serious dedication, not to mention alot of skill.

edit- for comparison, I've completed a little over 300 achievements.

edit2- also with the new patch that was released on tuesday, there are now 1054 achievements. Good luck achievement guy!


The author is just making himself and other not-so-hardcore gamers feel better about themselves.
:)
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
December 11 2009 00:32 GMT
#135
WoW really went into the crap can when Wrath of the Lich King came out. I played the game solidly since it came out and enjoyed hard core raiding thoroughly and then WotLK came out and took every beat of difficulty out of the entire game.

It's almost like a slap in the face honestly. Whatever though, I quit back in April and I do not regret that decision.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
PobTheCad
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Australia893 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-11 00:45:56
December 11 2009 00:43 GMT
#136
he completed it all
until the next patch comes out that is

i agree with the people claiming WoW has gone downhill
can't believe they got rid of twinking , and now i heard the new raids last only 30 minutes? and gear is much easier to obtain
the game just seems to casual orientated and easy mode nowdays
Once again back is the incredible!
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
December 11 2009 00:44 GMT
#137
On December 11 2009 09:32 Jayme wrote:
WoW really went into the crap can when Wrath of the Lich King came out. I played the game solidly since it came out and enjoyed hard core raiding thoroughly and then WotLK came out and took every beat of difficulty out of the entire game.

It's almost like a slap in the face honestly. Whatever though, I quit back in April and I do not regret that decision.

WoLK made it easier to level up to 80, the game is suppose to really start at 80. I'm guessing you weren't very good at the game?
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lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
December 11 2009 00:47 GMT
#138
Wow, you guys know that even B Team SC players play like 12 hours a day, don't get paid anything? That's unemployment too. Until they make it big, they are just like the WoW players you guys bash on who sit and play all day for a goal. Their goals are to become professionals (and LOL talk to anyone non-game about being awesome at SC or something, they'll be like.. uh.. why??) while this guy's goal was to get every achievement in game. Who are you to judge which goal is better? Where this WoW guy's goal is utterly obtainable (as he proved) the B team SC player may never get his goal and waste away into some useless PC bang assistant because he wasted all his time playing and not going to High School/College/etc.
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Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-11 00:49:34
December 11 2009 00:49 GMT
#139
Congrats to this guy, but the greatest achievement in gaming is still winning 3 OSL and 3 MSL. But perhaps I am biased.
snarl
Profile Joined July 2004
Canada812 Posts
December 11 2009 01:06 GMT
#140
On December 11 2009 09:44 selboN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2009 09:32 Jayme wrote:
WoW really went into the crap can when Wrath of the Lich King came out. I played the game solidly since it came out and enjoyed hard core raiding thoroughly and then WotLK came out and took every beat of difficulty out of the entire game.

It's almost like a slap in the face honestly. Whatever though, I quit back in April and I do not regret that decision.

WoLK made it easier to level up to 80, the game is suppose to really start at 80. I'm guessing you weren't very good at the game?

Levelling was never an obstacle to anyone remotely decent at the game, merely tedious.
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