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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-02 21:42:03
June 02 2010 21:41 GMT
#5281
Aw. people are starting to call mia's all the time now. I used to do this thing with annie where i would fake blue pill as the last creep is being killed off my tower, thus losing vision of me actually never teleporting back, hopefully buying me a bit of time, but these fuckers still call mia asap.
You literally see the people stopping all of a sudden then running into the bush or towards the tower when theyve been pushing. It's quite refreshing and annoying at the same time
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 02 2010 21:42 GMT
#5282
That.

Is devious.

:O
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 02 2010 21:47 GMT
#5283
I just bluepill, buy SotO and then jump on lanes. I dunno why, but no one ever seems to successfully convey the right amount of danger to their team in this scenario cause the pushing lane never stops in time to actually successfully escape, lol.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 02 2010 21:48 GMT
#5284
Well in fairness it's usually pretty tough to expect Pantheon.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
June 02 2010 21:52 GMT
#5285
On June 03 2010 05:24 Mogwai wrote:
30 is really really standard starting MR. I think pretty much everyone has a starting MR in the 30-32 range. And I don't think it grows for anyone. Which is dumb. Especially since MR items suck compared to Armor items.

On June 03 2010 05:28 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2010 05:21 Southlight wrote:
I'd never played Amumu too seriously pre-patch >_>

I just hate his basic MR, it's like 30.
pretty sure everybody has a base MR of 30. its defensive masteries and runes that boost it.

According to http://www.leagueoflegends.com/champions
every champion starts with 30 MR, with the exceptions of Singed, Zilean, Fiddlesticks and Ryze who start with 35 MR. Most champions get no MR gain per level, but there are several exceptions who usually get 1.25 MR / level (Garen, Warwick, Nasus, Akali, Gangplank, etc).
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 02 2010 21:52 GMT
#5286
whaddya mean? Pantheon's level 6 and mia, don't fucking push 2v2 cause you're asking to get DKed. I dunno, it seems straight forward to me... I'm glad it's not to most people though
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
June 02 2010 21:53 GMT
#5287
On June 03 2010 05:38 Chrispy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2010 05:27 redtooth wrote:
On June 03 2010 00:58 Mogwai wrote:
L0CUST's tier lists just look like garbs now, lol

Superior: Ezreal, Fiddlesticks, Janna, Ashe, Jax
Cardinal: Soraka, Sivir, Nasus, Shen, Annie, Twisted Fate, Alistar, Corki, Nidalee
Strong: Morgana, Amumu, Zilean, Tristana, Warwick, Katarina, Udyr, Gragas, Twitch, Kayle
Formidable: Malphite, Anivia, Poppy, Dr. Mundo, Kassadin, Singed, Rammus, Ryze
Circumstantial: Nunu, Cho'Gath, Karthus, Akali, Shaco, Blitzcrank, Gangplank

Overshadowed: Master Yi, Heimerdinger, Sion, Teemo, Kennen, Veigar, Garen, Taric, Pantheon, Mordekaiser, Tryndamere, Evelynn


It just seems like his flavors of the week for who kicked his ass recently or something.
[image loading]

he's a pretty cool guy though.


Do you still get haunting guise or is that an old pic?

Considering there's a Malzahar in his team, the pic has to be pretty recent.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 02 2010 22:02 GMT
#5288
On June 03 2010 06:52 Zato-1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2010 05:24 Mogwai wrote:
30 is really really standard starting MR. I think pretty much everyone has a starting MR in the 30-32 range. And I don't think it grows for anyone. Which is dumb. Especially since MR items suck compared to Armor items.

Show nested quote +
On June 03 2010 05:28 redtooth wrote:
On June 03 2010 05:21 Southlight wrote:
I'd never played Amumu too seriously pre-patch >_>

I just hate his basic MR, it's like 30.
pretty sure everybody has a base MR of 30. its defensive masteries and runes that boost it.

According to http://www.leagueoflegends.com/champions
every champion starts with 30 MR, with the exceptions of Singed, Zilean, Fiddlesticks and Ryze who start with 35 MR. Most champions get no MR gain per level, but there are several exceptions who usually get 1.25 MR / level (Garen, Warwick, Nasus, Akali, Gangplank, etc).

According to that, it's called spell block, champions get base crit and crit/level still and Attack Damage/Attack Speed aren't worth listing as base stats while HP and Mana Regen are...

God their database sucks :p. How fucking hard is it to keep stat growth stored in a database somewhere and just pull the info from there?
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 02 2010 22:06 GMT
#5289
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Champions

Better site.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 02 2010 22:09 GMT
#5290
blah, barely.

the stats on Panth at least are wrong on AD and incomplete on AS
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 02 2010 22:09 GMT
#5291
They're also not up-to-date with the crit change, but yeah.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
June 02 2010 22:41 GMT
#5292
A question: Is there any good reason to take Empower early on with Jax? I usually ignore it completely until I have no other choice. Although I lose a little minion-killing power, his normal attack is more than enough to murder unattended minions when supplemented by a Rageblade + his ult + Counter Strike, so it's not a big deal; moreover, when I want to do burst damage, using Empower at a low skill level will set me back in damage (to 1 target) or at most make me break even- while extra levels on Leap Strike reduce its CD by a lot (first skill to max), and Counter Strike skill levels let me dodge more often and therefore stun more often, and gives it more damage per use- they're not huge benefits, but they help.

I'm asking because I've seen enemy players take an early point in Empower, and I've seen guides suggest you do it, and yet I think taking Empower early on (somewhere in levels 1-4) is the most brilliantly useless investment you can make.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 02 2010 22:43 GMT
#5293
I always max Empower first. It's the strongest damage skill he has. I think I usually gimp on CS, as with Tabi and Runes you've got more than enough.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-02 23:11:21
June 02 2010 22:55 GMT
#5294
On June 03 2010 07:43 Southlight wrote:
I always max Empower first. It's the strongest damage skill he has. I think I usually gimp on CS, as with Tabi and Runes you've got more than enough.

How is it the strongest damage skill he has? Even if you have Empower maxed out (by level 9 at the earliest), and have say 100 AD and 50 AP, it lets one hit deal 120 + (150*.2) = 150 damage, which is only 50 more damage than you'd get from a normal attack. You'd probably have Counter Strike at level 1 and Leap Strike at level 2, whereas my build would have them at levels 3 and 5 respectively- Leap Strike would hit for 75 more damage per use and would have a third of the cooldown, while Counter Strike would give me 4% dodge and 40 more damage per use.

I can't see Empower's attractiveness early on, unless you're very often surrounded by 3+ enemy champions who aren't focusing on you, and spreading out your damage is somehow a good thing.

EDIT: Nevermind, my problem was that the tooltip for the ability is very misleading >>

Just tried it out in a practice game, and the damage it lists is in addition to his normal attack damage- not instead of his normal attack damage. This... changes things up a lot for me, I'll have to experiment some more now :p
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sibbes
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden13 Posts
June 02 2010 23:05 GMT
#5295
Just started this today.. So which champion is the noob friendliest hero killer?
Taggig
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
June 02 2010 23:09 GMT
#5296
On June 03 2010 08:05 sibbes wrote:
Just started this today.. So which champion is the noob friendliest hero killer?

from this weeks free champions- i guess ryze or ashe
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
June 02 2010 23:19 GMT
#5297
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=22254
ROFL

I personally ran the Clan X17 Iccup (starcraft) team with 21 B/B+/A- rank players

LOOOOOL
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
June 02 2010 23:24 GMT
#5298
Ughh I can't click on the minimap in game
Is there a hotkey for that?
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sleeepy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada777 Posts
June 02 2010 23:25 GMT
#5299
On June 03 2010 05:28 redtooth wrote:
pretty sure everybody has a base MR of 30. its defensive masteries and runes that boost it.


Except Jax has base 40 MR so even though casters "counter" him ( I say that very sarcastically because he counters casters as much as they counter him), early on you're going to deal piss damage with any magic harass in lane. And even later on 10 free MR is pretty nice considering how much more expensive it is.
Mazer
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1086 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-02 23:28:22
June 02 2010 23:26 GMT
#5300
Been playing Anivia to change it up from my typical Ashe/Nasus/Sivir rotation and doing somewhat alright. Tons of fun to play so I think I'll mess around with her for a bit.

Started with sapphire and built it into Rod of Ages after boots and Mejai's but I'm probably looking for an alternative. Was thinking Meki into Deathfire since the bird is really mana heavy and blue isn't always available. Any thoughts?

EDIT: Don't forget to add me - Mazer. I'll try to hit the channel up more often, it's been a while since I played with TL.
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