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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
June 02 2010 14:16 GMT
#5241
I don't like the MF Chogath build because it doesn't start with Rupture and it doesn't get Scream until it maxes Vorpal. Sure, you're a tank, whatever. GET SILENCE.

Honestly most people like the MF Chogath build because that douchebag condon wrote it with lots of "people are better players with better champs? FUCK YOU, OMNOMNOM" and "NO, YOU'RE THE MFING CHOGATH". He talks like a huge douche and people eat it up. Nevermind that the build itself sucks against any sort of competent opponent and your skills do no damage, YOU'RE THE MFING CHOGATH...
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
June 02 2010 14:18 GMT
#5242
Also don't play Cho until they patch his feast ability, you'll just lose when you try to feast someone and you just walk up to them and stop moving.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 02 2010 14:50 GMT
#5243
All this talk of Cho is reminding me... I tried to fling a fully feasted cho' gath the other day on my smurf and singed literally just stands there going "you want me to throw what now!?"

On June 02 2010 14:41 Tooplark wrote:
Who first carried their team with not-Ashe? (obviously for me it was Mundo)

Also, second triple kill :D

I think I first carried with amumu, can't really remember at this point though. Oh wait! no it was with teemo, lol!

I feel like my Pantheon carries a lot now a days, it's pretty damn fun.

On June 02 2010 19:02 hazed wrote:
Saw some mentions of TF recently. If you are playing TF, leveling pick a card first is a disaster. By level 6, mid TF skills should be 3/1/1/1. Then you level like this (if you go Attack speed) - 3/1/4/2. If you go AP, you obviously go 5/5/1/2.

...no... just no...

1. there is no "if you go AP" anymore. AP TF is like AD Annie, and let's not go barking up that tree again.
2. 3 points in WC cripples your mid game in return for making your early game slightly less awful. TF is not an early game hero, get over it, cut your losses and do weewerewewwqrqqrqq so that at least when you get an item worth having, you can start to be relevant.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
June 02 2010 14:58 GMT
#5244
yay i carried with ryze. ended up 17-2-21 but it really should've been 17-1-21 because the opponents all just wanted to kill me when we were focusing their nexus so i died in the last 5 seconds of the game haha it was so fun to get a ton of good items for once!

such a big difference between getting to do mid or having to do top or bottom. having experienced mid a few times now, i dont feel so bad when im doing top/bottom and im not awesome
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Malderon
Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands136 Posts
June 02 2010 15:07 GMT
#5245
True enough, his itemization is pretty suboptimal too, it's mostly the mindset which appeals to people I guess, like 'I don't care what you say, I do what I damn please, and eat whom I please'.

I mean, a second Warmog's, seriously? And Banshee's veil is much better than Force of Nature. I'd rather have raw health than regen. Altough having over 150 regen/5 sec is quite funny, it doesn't really help when people are bursting you down.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-02 15:18:56
June 02 2010 15:17 GMT
#5246
I just laugh every time I see a Cho on the other team who went hp/lv runes and runs into a fight with a ton of hp and no mana. I show them my mejais, hit them with my five hit combo... errr.... rupture-hit-scream-hit-feast, and gg.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 02 2010 15:29 GMT
#5247
how does AP vs. towers work? I seem to recall hearing something about AP translating into extra damage to towers or something retarded like that, and I was noticing an AP Yi going to town on our towers in a practice game last night...
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 02 2010 15:58 GMT
#5248
L0CUST's tier lists just look like garbs now, lol

Superior: Ezreal, Fiddlesticks, Janna, Ashe, Jax
Cardinal: Soraka, Sivir, Nasus, Shen, Annie, Twisted Fate, Alistar, Corki, Nidalee
Strong: Morgana, Amumu, Zilean, Tristana, Warwick, Katarina, Udyr, Gragas, Twitch, Kayle
Formidable: Malphite, Anivia, Poppy, Dr. Mundo, Kassadin, Singed, Rammus, Ryze
Circumstantial: Nunu, Cho'Gath, Karthus, Akali, Shaco, Blitzcrank, Gangplank

Overshadowed: Master Yi, Heimerdinger, Sion, Teemo, Kennen, Veigar, Garen, Taric, Pantheon, Mordekaiser, Tryndamere, Evelynn


It just seems like his flavors of the week for who kicked his ass recently or something.
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Malderon
Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands136 Posts
June 02 2010 16:56 GMT
#5249
On June 02 2010 23:18 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Also don't play Cho until they patch his feast ability, you'll just lose when you try to feast someone and you just walk up to them and stop moving.


I noticed that last game, I tried to feast a few times, and it just didn't work. Very odd.

Also, LOL @ Singeds fling vs Cho .
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
June 02 2010 17:07 GMT
#5250
On June 03 2010 00:29 Mogwai wrote:
how does AP vs. towers work? I seem to recall hearing something about AP translating into extra damage to towers or something retarded like that, and I was noticing an AP Yi going to town on our towers in a practice game last night...


60% of your ap is added to your attack against towers.

On June 02 2010 23:58 Liquid`NonY wrote:
yay i carried with ryze. ended up 17-2-21 but it really should've been 17-1-21 because the opponents all just wanted to kill me when we were focusing their nexus so i died in the last 5 seconds of the game haha it was so fun to get a ton of good items for once!

such a big difference between getting to do mid or having to do top or bottom. having experienced mid a few times now, i dont feel so bad when im doing top/bottom and im not awesome


Mid is a lot more being able to 1v1 well and bottom is more being able to link your abilities together to kill someone.

I find a strong mid can make or break a game because if the solo mid sucks and gets out leveled by side lanes then it doesn't really matter how well you're doing on the sides lol
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 02 2010 17:13 GMT
#5251
Strong mids make or break early games quite often but in the long run what changes is the fact that they don't have to share creep with a teammate.
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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
June 02 2010 17:37 GMT
#5252
On June 03 2010 02:13 Southlight wrote:
Strong mids make or break early games quite often but in the long run what changes is the fact that they don't have to share creep with a teammate.
different mids do different things. like a kat mid has a very different effect on the game then a tristana/ashe mid or a nidalee mid. when an annie is mia you fear for your life, when a karthus is mia you're fine with it.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-02 18:32:41
June 02 2010 17:43 GMT
#5253
Different mids do different things but you generally look at the creep stat of the solo mids and find they have much more than everyone else in the game (other than junglers).

Stronger early-game mid heroes or overfarmed carry heroes can make or break games from early on via ganking etc. due to their superior level, but over the course of a 25-minute game it's the superior amount of farm that shines over the mid-late game as opposed to the 1v1 (many of which go relatively stalemate) and the level advantage.

I didn't really say anything ground-breaking IMO.

Edit:
In other news, that pre-cast animation fix for Master Yi made him even nastier as a chaser and killer... if he gets Liz buff, with assists giving 50% cd it's impossible to get away from him (previously if he cast it, but you got away far enough it wouldn't teleport him next to you).

Edit2:
By the way a missing Karthus is nothing to scoff at, because he outputs incredible amounts of damage and has a very good ganking support skill (wall).

Edit3:
On a final thought, it's interesting the unintended buffs and nerfs that happen. It occurred to me a couple days ago that the real reason that Ashe is so much more effective now isn't because the metagame changes or anything, but because Flash has been nerfed out of being a common pick. For better or for worse, snares trump speedboosts by a significant amount, so the inability to Flash out of Ashe's grasp makes escaping her (and pushing into her) much, much more difficult.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 02 2010 19:06 GMT
#5254
ashe with red elixir + janna is so very very mean. Nothing like hitting towers for like 100/shot at Ashe's range at level 3.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 02 2010 19:09 GMT
#5255
Ashe pretty much needs red elixir in general, I seem to notice >_>
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 02 2010 19:12 GMT
#5256
speaking of needing red elixir...

some no-talent ass clown came mid as Pantheon with a doran's blade vs. me when I was queueing with TLers last night. It was really funny how badly red elixir panth stomps on doran's blade panth, lol.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-02 19:18:45
June 02 2010 19:14 GMT
#5257
You were probably just lucky enough to not tower dive for him.

Edit:
My god my typing is absolutely bonkers right now.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 02 2010 19:22 GMT
#5258
yea, it was really close, I almost had to tower dive, but then i decided that instead I would take complete lane control and a 2 level advantage instead of giving up first blood and giving some scrub something stupid to brag about :p
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
June 02 2010 19:25 GMT
#5259
So I've been playing Malzahar a lot lately and he's pretty fun. Cleanse just wrecks his day but its not an auto-lose. I managed to lane against a pirate with cleanse/heal and killed him.
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 02 2010 19:27 GMT
#5260
On June 03 2010 04:22 Mogwai wrote:
instead of giving up first blood and giving some scrub something stupid to brag about :p


*coughs*

Anyways, with regards to Amumu, what do you think about runes/masteries/skills?

I've been running a regular caster mpen/mp5l/mp5l setup while going 1/8/21 and going TantDes(depending on initial spawn)/TantDes/Tant/Des/Toss/Ult/Tant :x
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