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rredtooth
5464 Posts
On June 03 2010 10:45 ofcourse wrote: lol....thank you so much. explains a lot havent played kata ... but if she wont get nerfed in some of the next patches shes a must have. | ||
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On June 03 2010 10:56 Southlight wrote: I've not seen L0cust come even remotely close to beating me, and most of the times I play him I'm solo queueing. I don't think he's nearly as good as he thinks or might say he is. I think you're attributing too much to L0cust. You don't have to be the greatest player in earth in order to have a good grasp on the flow of the game. I'm not saying his tier list is right- just saying that it's not necessarily wrong, even if he's not a great player himself. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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rredtooth
5464 Posts
On June 03 2010 11:29 Zato-1 wrote: no he really doesn't have a grasp on the flow of the game. he REALLY doesn't. if you've played with him you would know. he doesn't understand when to engage, when not to engage, why you shouldn't be doing something, etc etc. that arises from his misunderstanding of individual heroes and their utility.I think you're attributing too much to L0cust. You don't have to be the greatest player in earth in order to have a good grasp on the flow of the game. I'm not saying his tier list is right- just saying that it's not necessarily wrong, even if he's not a great player himself. i'm saying his tier list is wrong. unlike utahime, i think he's a pretty cool guy. however, he's wrong as fuck. he might have gotten lucky with a few of the placements but he really doesn't understand the game or team comps or the flow of the game. | ||
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oberon
United States1320 Posts
On June 03 2010 08:26 Mazer wrote: Been playing Anivia to change it up from my typical Ashe/Nasus/Sivir rotation and doing somewhat alright. Tons of fun to play so I think I'll mess around with her for a bit. Started with sapphire and built it into Rod of Ages after boots and Mejai's but I'm probably looking for an alternative. Was thinking Meki into Deathfire since the bird is really mana heavy and blue isn't always available. Any thoughts? EDIT: Don't forget to add me - Mazer. I'll try to hit the channel up more often, it's been a while since I played with TL. If you're midding with Anivia, you MUST open boots. Otherwise you're going to get WTFPWNed by any skillshot hero. I know this from playing as Sivir and feeding on bad Anivias, but I'd imagine that the ultimate nightmare matchup is Nidalee. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On June 03 2010 11:51 redtooth wrote: no he really doesn't have a grasp on the flow of the game. he REALLY doesn't. if you've played with him you would know. he doesn't understand when to engage, when not to engage, why you shouldn't be doing something, etc etc. that arises from his misunderstanding of individual heroes and their utility. i'm saying his tier list is wrong. unlike utahime, i think he's a pretty cool guy. however, he's wrong as fuck. he might have gotten lucky with a few of the placements but he really doesn't understand the game or team comps or the flow of the game. 1: Ezreal, Fiddlesticks, Janna, Ashe, Jax 2: Soraka, Sivir, Nasus, Shen, Annie, Twisted Fate, Alistar, Corki, Nidalee 3: Morgana, Amumu, Zilean, Tristana, Warwick, Katarina, Udyr, Gragas, Twitch, Kayle 4: Malphite, Anivia, Poppy, Dr. Mundo, Kassadin, Singed, Rammus, Ryze 5: Nunu, Cho'Gath, Karthus, Akali, Shaco, Blitzcrank, Gangplank 6: Master Yi, Heimerdinger, Sion, Teemo, Kennen, Veigar, Garen, Taric, Pantheon, Mordekaiser, Tryndamere, Evelynn Make adjustments to the list then. I'd like to hear your opinions. | ||
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Cerumo
United States40 Posts
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Harsesis
United States9 Posts
Add me and I'll play. I play a mean Kassadin | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On June 03 2010 12:08 NeoIllusions wrote: 1: Ezreal, Fiddlesticks, Janna, Ashe, Jax 2: Soraka, Sivir, Nasus, Shen, Annie, Twisted Fate, Alistar, Corki, Nidalee 3: Morgana, Amumu, Zilean, Tristana, Warwick, Katarina, Udyr, Gragas, Twitch, Kayle 4: Malphite, Anivia, Poppy, Dr. Mundo, Kassadin, Singed, Rammus, Ryze 5: Nunu, Cho'Gath, Karthus, Akali, Shaco, Blitzcrank, Gangplank 6: Master Yi, Heimerdinger, Sion, Teemo, Kennen, Veigar, Garen, Taric, Pantheon, Mordekaiser, Tryndamere, Evelynn Make adjustments to the list then. I'd like to hear your opinions. I'd bump warwick and udyr up to 2 since they are the best junglers in the game (2 good solos is amazingly strong) and switch tristana and TF, he just isnt that good anymore. I'd also say move all the last tier into tier 5 and move chogath shaco akali and karthus up to tier 4. Theyre all pretty powerful champions but there are usually others that do the same thing but slightly better. | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On June 03 2010 12:17 Cerumo wrote: So I started playing Ezreal today and am totally at a loss of what to do for summoner spells, runes and an item build. Ive been liking AP more than AD but that's about all I've figured out. Any tips? 21/0/9 grabbing all the all the AD stuff and improved ignite as well as 15% spellpen. I usually rock Ghost/ignite but you can use cleanse instead of ignite if you're unsure of your spider instincts. for runes i use armor pen in red, cd reduction/lvl in blue and mp5/level in yellow with flat hp quints. Even if you go AP the extra armor pen vastly increases the damage you do early game with mystic shot. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
I'll definitely say TF and Alist and Ashe are too high, possibly Fiddle, too, Morgana is too high, Zilean's too high, Warwick is too low, Kayle is too high, Poppy is too high, etc. etc., Master Yi (for better or for worse) is too low, as is Pantheon. I'd have to look at a fresh list to say much else, but yeah. | ||
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rredtooth
5464 Posts
On June 03 2010 12:08 NeoIllusions wrote: zzz i don't want to disagree with you considering you're much better than me. however i'd put udyr+nidalee+zilean higher and TF lower. others are just minor adjustments but agreeable for the most part.1: Ezreal, Fiddlesticks, Janna, Ashe, Jax 2: Soraka, Sivir, Nasus, Shen, Annie, Twisted Fate, Alistar, Corki, Nidalee 3: Morgana, Amumu, Zilean, Tristana, Warwick, Katarina, Udyr, Gragas, Twitch, Kayle 4: Malphite, Anivia, Poppy, Dr. Mundo, Kassadin, Singed, Rammus, Ryze 5: Nunu, Cho'Gath, Karthus, Akali, Shaco, Blitzcrank, Gangplank 6: Master Yi, Heimerdinger, Sion, Teemo, Kennen, Veigar, Garen, Taric, Pantheon, Mordekaiser, Tryndamere, Evelynn Make adjustments to the list then. I'd like to hear your opinions. do you ever play with TL people btw? or are you too good for us?  | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
Seriously, fucker dominates mid and makes the game no fun for people under 2K health. Not many people are good with him, but he has a higher ceiling than most people (including myself 3 weeks ago) are willing to give him credit for. Of course that's all down the drain when they fix the HS bug, but it does give him a level of viability. I'm not comfortable going into further depth, but I will say that I think this is the top tier at the moment in no particular order: Ez, Janna, Nid, Fiddle, Shen | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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eaT_Mi_Lquid
Germany509 Posts
 trying to play some OP champs ... | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On June 03 2010 12:46 Southlight wrote: I haven't seen Fiddle wreck a game in a long time. Whether it's become more people have become used to dealing with him or what I don't know. It's still chic to say he's a top-tier hero because he has two disables but with the silence duration nerf I don't think he's hands-down top tier anymore. Fiddle is top tier because he can jungle and he can single handedly kill an entire team. | ||
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Twilexia
United States62 Posts
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
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pokeyAA
United States936 Posts
Its fun to play, doing nothing but belly smashing people, but I need a build. I've tried soul shroud, merc treads, frozen heart, though not sure what his first item should be. (cooldowns for W, E, HP and armor for tankage, though MR seems lacking, still feel squishier than I should be) I've tried rushing mogs, then spirit visage, ( I feel it takes too long to get mogs as Gragas to make it worth it) I've tried getting brutalizer first, but then I'm not tank enough. I've thought of rod of ages into rylais , but I kinda wanna just belly smash people and dont really need the AP (his new ratio of 0.5 prob wont do much anyway) How does aegis, merc treads, sunfire cape, spirit visage sound? Give me your thoughts! Again, this wont really be a try hard character, I really just like spamming E. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
One thing I do find annoying is that you guys tend to blanket statement a lot of champions in this thread (a lot of you guys all premade together, so it's not surprising there's a shared mentality/collective opinion). I know there are a lot of baddies out there (I would know, I solo q most of the time) but it makes more sense when you judge a champion based on its greatest potential. For example, a lot of you guys seem to have a thing for Pantheon and I've seen LoCicero tear it up as Pan (typically in a side lane) but he honestly isn't that great at solo mid. I'd take bigfatjiji's TF or MasteR of LoL's Sivir over any of you guys as Pan in mid. And you guys downplay TF and Sivir a ton. I don't really play with TL guys. I started LoL back in Aug. '09 (Zileas invite, sup?) so I've built my buddy list with some of the older veterans. I've seen Utahime and wrawrawrawra a few times in solo q before. Feel free to add me in game, I'd love to play with other TL guys. I just expect you fools to try hard. | ||
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