I am probably missing something do Mana regen runes work with the ninjas too? I thought Riot said they had plans to have energy runes sometime in the future.

Mogwai

United States13274 Posts

May 26 2010 20:51 GMT

#4782

no, it's just that whenever Turkey or Southlight forget to update their rune page with something useful for shen in place of their mana regen runes, they do better than when they have the "better" rune page for him. lol

StuffedTurkey

United States859 Posts

May 26 2010 22:26 GMT

#4783

On May 27 2010 05:51 Mogwai wrote:
no, it's just that whenever Turkey or Southlight forget to update their rune page with something useful for shen in place of their mana regen runes, they do better than when they have the "better" rune page for him. lol

funny thing is we almost always win when we use mana regen runes on shen, even though they have no effect

and yea i heard about energy runes but now i cant find them so im not sure if they got scrapped

Mogwai

United States13274 Posts

May 26 2010 22:32 GMT

#4784

they haven't patched yet and I think they've been scrapped cause there's no talk of them in the TR Forums. They really make things difficult, so I think scrapping them was a good idea if indeed that's what they've done.

Southlight

United States11768 Posts

May 26 2010 22:37 GMT

#4785

All putting energy runes would do is make energy runes a necessity for playing the ninjas and force them to nerf the skills as per energy. It's counterintuitive.

ZERG_RUSSIAN

10417 Posts

May 26 2010 22:55 GMT

#4786

I saw a jungle conversation a while back and I wanted to put my 2 cents in, now that I'm having a great time playing warwick--you don't actually want to put 21 into any tree with a jungler. I run 12/0/18 on war for the utility tree's buff mastery/exp bonus and offensive's magic pen/smite/damage to minions and armor pen. It makes jungling go a lot faster because you level way quicker, and when I gank well sometimes I'll be like 4-0 with a cloth armor and a mana potion 10 minutes into the game holding like 3.5k gold. I'm assuming the same would work well on Shen because what exactly does 15% summoner skill cooldown do for him? He doesn't really need it.

Southlight

United States11768 Posts

May 26 2010 22:59 GMT

#4787

Personally I'm a fan of 9/0/21 on jungle (or 0/9/21) because smite and ghost on reduced cd is nice, but that's just my preference.

Mogwai

United States13274 Posts

May 26 2010 23:06 GMT

#4788

wait... why 12? seems to me that 11/0/19 makes sense and 15/0/15 makes sense, but 12/0/18 just doesn't add up for me...

like, if you do 11/0/19, you only get 1 in armor pen, but you still get the max CDR from utility, but if you don't care about the CDR, then wouldn't it just make more sense to keep going in the offensive tree rather than investing beyond movespeed in utility? I dunno, am I missing something about what 12/0/18 lets you do?

Juicyfruit

Canada5484 Posts

May 27 2010 00:14 GMT

#4789

On May 26 2010 23:55 Mogwai wrote:
21 defensive is the best on Carries, pretty much without exception.

True, but that's also because cleanse is the best summoner spell on carries, pretty much without exception =p

rredtooth

5461 Posts

May 27 2010 00:33 GMT

#4790

On May 27 2010 01:04 NeoIllusions wrote:
lilballz Udyr > all jungle

bigfatjiji premade > pubs

Mogwai

United States13274 Posts

May 27 2010 00:58 GMT

#4791

signed > all champions

rredtooth

5461 Posts

May 27 2010 02:08 GMT

#4792

carrying gozey is no problem.

HazMat

United States17077 Posts

May 27 2010 02:51 GMT

#4793

On May 27 2010 09:58 Mogwai wrote:
signed > all champions

I gotta agree with this, dunno why people do t include them I their top tiers.

Mogwai

United States13274 Posts

May 27 2010 03:48 GMT

#4794

i only sorta mean that... i have problems with singed personally, but i still think he's only tier 3 because he steals farm as a tank.

Gokey

United States2722 Posts

May 27 2010 04:00 GMT

#4795

Man, I keep on changing my Soraka build now... I think I'm just gonna go AP and some health... Maybe laying off the cooldown for now.

pokeyAA

United States936 Posts

May 27 2010 04:19 GMT

#4796

*cough locket, merc treads, frozen heart*

rredtooth

5461 Posts

May 27 2010 06:02 GMT

#4797

On May 27 2010 13:00 Gokey wrote:
Man, I keep on changing my Soraka build now... I think I'm just gonna go AP and some health... Maybe laying off the cooldown for now.

stop being a tryhard. go back to ashe. we miss your ult whiffs.

ZERG_RUSSIAN

10417 Posts

May 27 2010 08:06 GMT

#4798

On May 27 2010 08:06 Mogwai wrote:
wait... why 12? seems to me that 11/0/19 makes sense and 15/0/15 makes sense, but 12/0/18 just doesn't add up for me...

like, if you do 11/0/19, you only get 1 in armor pen, but you still get the max CDR from utility, but if you don't care about the CDR, then wouldn't it just make more sense to keep going in the offensive tree rather than investing beyond movespeed in utility? I dunno, am I missing something about what 12/0/18 lets you do?

You're right, I actually made a mistake mass typing before I went to work, I run 11/0/19 for 3 in CD and movespeed at the top of utility and 2 above magic pen in offense in sunder. 15/0/15 sounds interesting too, I might have to try that out.

ZERG_RUSSIAN

10417 Posts

May 27 2010 08:07 GMT

#4799

On May 27 2010 15:02 redtooth wrote:

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stop being a tryhard. go back to ashe. we miss your ult whiffs.

Actually it wasn't the whiffing that got me cuz every ashe misses arrows (well, almost), it's that every time it was up it was being shot randomly just because "the cooldown is so low"