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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 26 2010 18:32 GMT
#4761
carries are so much better showing up on lane with 700 hp than 400 hp, lol. I can't believe I even played TF before I figured out doran's shield and flat hp quints and defensive masteries :p
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
May 26 2010 18:35 GMT
#4762
It's why Elixir opening on Ashe is pretty nasty ;p And necessary, for laning against Ezreal/Trist.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 26 2010 18:44 GMT
#4763
actually, elixir is probably optimal on TF too now that I think about it. it's not like the doran's shield is giving you much value later on and having more relevant autoattacks early might give him more lane presence.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 18:46:59
May 26 2010 18:45 GMT
#4764
I think Boots is necessary on TF because his range blows. Not sure about side lane TF, though.

Edit:
The way I see it is (in a solo mid fight)

Ashe > TF
Ashe + Elixir >>>>> TF
Ashe + Elixir = TF + Boots
Ashe + Boots ~ TF + Boots
Ashe + Elixir + Boots > TF + Boots
Ashe + Elixir + Boots ? TF + Boots + Elixir

Tough call, and that's a lot of investment to maintain solo mid dominance.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 26 2010 18:50 GMT
#4765
on side lanes, I think elixir theoretically sounds best when you have another stunner, otherwise shield/regrowth.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
May 26 2010 18:54 GMT
#4766
Probably around right.

Incidentally I think Shield/Ring gives great value even as the game goes on. 130HP never becomes obsolete :p
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 26 2010 18:59 GMT
#4767
Incidentally... Ashe + Elixir vs. TF + Boots sounds pretty terrible for TF to me.
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pokeyAA
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States936 Posts
May 26 2010 19:02 GMT
#4768
I like the utility tree myself for soraka, ezreal, ashe 9/0/21
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 26 2010 19:06 GMT
#4769
well, I agree on Ez and Soraka, but I haven't seriously played Ashe in a long time, so I dunno if I agree for Ashe or not, but when I went on a 3 game locket Ashe kick I ran 9/0/21, lol.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
May 26 2010 19:12 GMT
#4770
On May 27 2010 03:59 Mogwai wrote:
Incidentally... Ashe + Elixir vs. TF + Boots sounds pretty terrible for TF to me.


It's even at best, the speed advantage really messes up whatever extra HP/damage Ashe does, from what I could tell. I'm not sure how Ashe Elixir-first fares against TF boot-first (probably Ashe wins via attrition), but if TF goes back and buys a boot the scales seem to tip the other way.
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Cerumo
Profile Joined December 2009
United States40 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 19:14:11
May 26 2010 19:13 GMT
#4771
So I started playing around on Corki and have begun to take a liking to him. Have been going 21/0/9 with Armorpen/dodge/flatcd and HP quints and Flash/Tele summoner spells. As far as item builds ive been doing LW -> IE but I feel this is weak untill late game. Anyone have any suggestions on Corki builds?
Iwinulose
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 26 2010 19:16 GMT
#4772
I see a lot of flat pen/reduction to abuse with gattling's armor shredding. The builds always look something like sheen, zerker greaves (still don't understand this), brutalizer, black cleaver, go for triforce. I don't really play him though, that's just what the better looking ones always seem to do.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
May 26 2010 19:22 GMT
#4773
For the most part Corki is a late-game hero, aside from ganking with Lizard, so you're probably staring at the "limitation" of Corki. If you want an earlier setup you can rush Sheen (and maybe Triforce).

He's also one of the heroes I'd seriously consider running double mp5 on, because he needs to farm, but his farming speed is directly tied to his spell spam. If you can Valk every creep wave you'll get money much faster than without.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 26 2010 19:31 GMT
#4774
double mp5pl is so awesome on Ez.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 19:36:15
May 26 2010 19:35 GMT
#4775
It's awesome on most heroes.

Especially Shen.

Edit:
Speaking of which, were you in my game a couple days ago when I was playing Twitch, and this TF teleported to me in a teamfight and tried to gold card me (woulda killed me) only to see me dodge and escape?

He was like

"OMG WHAT'S YOUR DODGE RATE"

I was like

"6%, but Riot gave us 50% bonus vs gold card"
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StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
May 26 2010 19:38 GMT
#4776
On May 27 2010 04:35 Southlight wrote:


"6%, but Riot gave us 50% bonus vs gold card"

its SO true
You can't milk those!
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
May 26 2010 19:40 GMT
#4777
It is true, and I felt sorry for him that he didn't know, so I needed to point it out :d
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 26 2010 19:40 GMT
#4778
it's why I don't play TF anymore lol
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 26 2010 19:50 GMT
#4779
On May 27 2010 04:31 Mogwai wrote:
double mp5pl is so awesome on Ez.

mp5pl?

learning the terminology~
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
May 26 2010 19:56 GMT
#4780
mana regen per 5 seconds, per level.
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
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