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Man, can't play today cuz I'm working overnight tonight... Will be on Friday during day though. Can't wait to do new Soraka build, we'll see how it goes.
Also, can't wait for Ashe's new skill in upcoming patch. Although they nerfed her volley and stun-per-distance for ECA. Overall I think it's more of a nerf, but I kinda miss that ol' glass cannon who can't escape for crap.
Also, I don't know why I have such bad luck queuing w/ Wrawrawra; we always get horribly retarded teammates when queuing together. And I am good with my arrows, Wra, fuck you lol.
Gotta give a shoutout to RadJacob; he's a solid Tristana who farms harder than anyone I know lol. Solid team member in every game, and probably one of the most consistent people from TL channel.
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today i felt in love with starting dagger into zeal on ashe :o
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On May 28 2010 00:07 Southlight wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2010 22:26 suffeli wrote:
redtooth, gimme a solid AP / AD Kat build(masteries too). I wanna try her out. She seems a perfect hero for pubstomping. I'm not redtooth but probably one of the most effective ones I see goes Guise/Sorc/BT and then follows with GA and Rylai in whichever order, then makes another damage item. Runes mpen/dodge/cd(?)/flat hp quints, masteries I believe 9(mp15%)/21/0 but you could probably also make do with 21/9/0. omega taurus uses that build. basically, anything omega taurus does you don't want to do. he is a baddie.for AP you wanna go something along the lines of dorans/sorc boots/haunting guise/rylais/GA. that's the core of my build. running 9/21/0 right now with mpen/dodge/flatCD/flatHealth. been experimenting with 9/0/21 with movespeed quints but i've yet to see "better" results.
also southlight i'm compiling screenshots of dominant locket udyrs. hasn't proven hard yet.
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The best Kats I've seen use the build, so meh. All your statement means to me is that Omega Taurus took the build from other people, and fails at it.
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omega taurus is the only one i've ever seen go rylais+BF swords.
it... just doesn't make sense.
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On May 28 2010 04:29 dnosrc wrote:
today i felt in love with starting dagger into zeal on ashe :o
dagger's a pretty bad opening item...
jus' sayin'
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THIS SATURDAY:
What: Let's all do a Teamliquid in-house draft tourney day!!
When: Saturday, May 29, 2010; 6PM Eastern, 3PM Pacific
Format: Everyone who signed up meet in LiquidParty channel. Then team "captains" will pick players based on who showed up/signed up. First pick is given to random team. Captains will be based on who signs up and who wants to be a captain.
If you're interested, post here your name and played characters, IN ORDER OF PREFERENCE (skill with that character).
We need at least 10 people signed up for this to work.
I'll start:
1. Gozey - Ashe, Soraka
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On May 28 2010 02:01 Mogwai wrote:
last night, i kept overestimating my early burst with Panth by like 5-10 damage, it was really annoying and definitely ruined my game vs. a janna mid when it cost me FB. Instead of her waiting to respawn while I backed to buy, she backed and teled and I had to stay on the lane till 6 to avoid getting underleveled, but was low on hp so I got underfarmed and got jacked by her leveling zephyr instead of the usual abilities. uhg, so annoying.
what build are you using with panth?
edit: although i dont think it would have helped much, when you lane vs a good janna you have to do everything perfect, or hope the team doesnt call mia if you wanna kill her or play passive and just last hit minions with spear.
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On May 28 2010 06:10 Gokey wrote:
THIS SATURDAY:
What: Let's all do a Teamliquid in-house draft tourney day!!
When: Saturday, May 29, 2010; 6PM Eastern, 3PM Pacific
Format: Everyone who signed up meet in LiquidParty channel. Then team "captains" will pick players based on who showed up/signed up. First pick is given to random team. Captains will be based on who signs up and who wants to be a captain.
If you're interested, post here your name and played characters, IN ORDER OF PREFERENCE (skill with that character).
We need at least 10 people signed up for this to work.
I'll start:
1. Gozey - Ashe, Soraka
Really good idea! Nice intiative. I wish I could play so I could show all these "I'm a high elo player" that I'm a high elo player.
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On May 28 2010 06:21 DanceCommander wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2010 02:01 Mogwai wrote:
last night, i kept overestimating my early burst with Panth by like 5-10 damage, it was really annoying and definitely ruined my game vs. a janna mid when it cost me FB. Instead of her waiting to respawn while I backed to buy, she backed and teled and I had to stay on the lane till 6 to avoid getting underleveled, but was low on hp so I got underfarmed and got jacked by her leveling zephyr instead of the usual abilities. uhg, so annoying. what build are you using with panth? edit: although i dont think it would have helped much, when you lane vs a good janna you have to do everything perfect, or hope the team doesnt call mia if you wanna kill her or play passive and just last hit minions with spear.
Panth beats Janna, but it's by a lot less than he does most champs. You are right that you basically have to play perfectly though, it's a much tighter matchup than most.
I made a large post about how I build and play Panth on page 238, so just check there cause I don't wanna write all that out again.
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suffeli
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Thanks everyone for the tips. Hmm... why not Zhonyas for AP Kat after or before Rylais?
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On May 28 2010 06:10 Gokey wrote:
THIS SATURDAY:
What: Let's all do a Teamliquid in-house draft tourney day!!
When: Saturday, May 29, 2010; 6PM Eastern, 3PM Pacific
Format: Everyone who signed up meet in LiquidParty channel. Then team "captains" will pick players based on who showed up/signed up. First pick is given to random team. Captains will be based on who signs up and who wants to be a captain.
If you're interested, post here your name and played characters, IN ORDER OF PREFERENCE (skill with that character).
We need at least 10 people signed up for this to work.
I'll start:
1. Gozey - Ashe, Soraka
Haha this sounds pretty fun. I'll give it a go as long as I'm not doing anything Saturday.
ChrispySC - Shen, Akali, Ezreal.
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I'd be interested to test my mettle against you guys. Pretty sure i'll be free then.
Alethios - Soraka, Kat, Warwick, Trynd, Nunu
Though i generally just play whichever hero would round the team off best.
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On May 28 2010 06:10 Gokey wrote:
THIS SATURDAY:
What: Let's all do a Teamliquid in-house draft tourney day!!
When: Saturday, May 29, 2010; 6PM Eastern, 3PM Pacific
Format: Everyone who signed up meet in LiquidParty channel. Then team "captains" will pick players based on who showed up/signed up. First pick is given to random team. Captains will be based on who signs up and who wants to be a captain.
If you're interested, post here your name and played characters, IN ORDER OF PREFERENCE (skill with that character).
We need at least 10 people signed up for this to work.
I'll start:
1. Gozey - Ashe, Soraka
Ruken - Nasus
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On May 28 2010 06:54 suffeli wrote:
Thanks everyone for the tips. Hmm... why not Zhonyas for AP Kat after or before Rylais? i find that the 3 AP/mpen items are enough to deal out significant damage. if you dont go a survival item after that it starts getting really risky shunpoing into the middle of a team. zhonyas is awesome for when you have massive amounts of AP but as a third item you're only making it benefit from 90 extra AP (outside of itself ofc).
i don't know. my logic with kat is weird. you sorta... want to die. like your midgame dominance will eventually fade so your goal is to shut down those who scale better into the lategame. thats why i think a 1 to 1 exchange at mid is usually fine because my death is less significant than the other mid's death most of the time. that's why i tower dive so much with her.
same with after i get GA. i usually start playing balls-to-the-walls aggressive and running in front of our tanks and shit. i have a 2 snares on 5 second cooldowns so i can initiate favorable team battles really well by picking a hero off quick. if you built her the way i told you to then she should be real buff. that means that if they focus you then they are wasting dps on you later on. you have to just try to milk as much utility out of lategame kat as possible and i think a GA is better suited for that purpose than a zhonyas would be.
edit: the above logic is probably why my overall death average with kat is so high. you kill a lot, you die a lot. shut down their carry and piss people off.
double edit: despite my advocacy for AP kat, i also suggest you go ahead and experiment yourself. like solanir and i have polar opposite styles to playing kat but we both do reasonably well. i can't tell you solanir's build because... i don't understand it. but try mine, try the generic AD build (guise+BF swords), then try solanir's spirit visage+sunfire+BF swords+atmas. ya i told you its weird.
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Pantheon has a spear he can throw with a skill for damage.
Nidalee has a spear she can throw with a spear for damage.
Nidalee's spear can be thrown for her autoattack.
Pantheon must be close enough to poke people with his.
Wha'?
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On May 28 2010 08:23 oberon wrote:
Pantheon has a spear he can throw with a skill for damage.
Nidalee has a spear she can throw with a spear for damage.
Nidalee's spear can be thrown for her autoattack.
Pantheon must be close enough to poke people with his.
Wha'?
His arm gets too tired to throw it as often as Nid so he just runs up and pokes people
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Hey, everyone ignore Gozey for awhile while we talk about other random stuff lol
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On May 28 2010 08:33 StuffedTurkey wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2010 08:23 oberon wrote:
Pantheon has a spear he can throw with a skill for damage.
Nidalee has a spear she can throw with a spear for damage.
Nidalee's spear can be thrown for her autoattack.
Pantheon must be close enough to poke people with his.
Wha'? His arm gets too tired to throw it as often as Nid so he just runs up and pokes people
You forget, in 300 they used spears with shield and just occasionally thrusted it forward so he is just doing that to remain true to spartan warrior code.
Pantheon is bad ass, and to compare him with this shapeshifting leopard girl is soo wrong in soo many places.
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On May 28 2010 08:46 Madkipz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2010 08:33 StuffedTurkey wrote:On May 28 2010 08:23 oberon wrote:
Pantheon has a spear he can throw with a skill for damage.
Nidalee has a spear she can throw with a spear for damage.
Nidalee's spear can be thrown for her autoattack.
Pantheon must be close enough to poke people with his.
Wha'? His arm gets too tired to throw it as often as Nid so he just runs up and pokes people You forget, in 300 they used spears with shield and just occasionally thrusted it forward so he is just doing that to remain true to spartan warrior code. Pantheon is bad ass, and to compare him with this shapeshifting leopard girl is soo wrong in soo many places.
I didnt forget, i just chose to omit :p
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