• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:02
CEST 07:02
KST 14:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun4[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists19[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced
Tourneys
WardiTV Spring Cup 2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament INu's Battles#14 <BO.9 2Matches> GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss
Brood War
General
JaeDong's ASL S21 Ro16 Post-Review BW General Discussion Leta's ASL S21 Ro.16 review ASL21 General Discussion [ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 2 [BSL22] RO16 Group Stage - 02 - 10 May [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro8 Day 1
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Diablo IV
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2889 users

League of Legends - Page 178

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 176 177 178 179 180 281 Next
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
May 03 2010 17:36 GMT
#3541
Yep agreed Kat is a bitch to play against again.
Retvrn to Forvms
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
May 03 2010 17:43 GMT
#3542
I don't run AP on Kat; actually I run hybrid, having stolen that Adam guy's build from my post a few pages back. I also don't know if she ever runs out of viability with that build (which is actually the most effective Kat build I've seen so far, however odd it seems), because her damage output never seems to die down, and she's mad effective all the way through.

She's a very good all-around character. The threat of her ult forces people to watch out for her, and because of the KI buff she needs surprisingly low amounts of items to output massive damage with it. Along with the ult glitch fix (enabling her to do damage from the start) it's made her ult effective for however little time it runs. Assuming she takes a solo lane (she needs it) she gets massive burst damage (~500) even without actually raising BB levels from early in the game, and KI enables her to output okay damage even without stacking damage items.

Her skill-to-play threshold has gone up IMO, but so has her skill ceiling.

Incidentally, saving a stun for her was not very difficult if you were coordinated. It's like dealing with Fiddle - if you know he's coming, you delegate responsibility beforehand. As has been implied, Kat was a fine pubstomper, but in group vs group fights she wasn't very useful because other than with Morg she wouldn't do anything. I actually liked playing vs the old Kat because I knew she wasn't going to contribute to the fights.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 03 2010 17:48 GMT
#3543
6-0-4 Kat in my game last night did spirit visage, sorc shoes, stack BF Swords.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-03 18:33:30
May 03 2010 18:33 GMT
#3544
i changed my kat build i dont do AP anymore

doran shield + hp pot still to start

buy fort elixir whenever down
2 bf swords
frozen mallet(warmogs is just a shitty item in general)
upgrade to 2 bloodthirsters.
Brees on in
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 03 2010 18:37 GMT
#3545
I think I'm going to give Garen another try with 11/0/19 and move speed quints with more focus on damage in my build.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
May 04 2010 00:20 GMT
#3546
oh no my account has been suspended until may 5th. guess ill have to go outside
Brees on in
pokeyAA
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States936 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-04 00:47:29
May 04 2010 00:43 GMT
#3547
On May 04 2010 03:33 Brees wrote:
i changed my kat build i dont do AP anymore

doran shield + hp pot still to start

buy fort elixir whenever down
2 bf swords
frozen mallet(warmogs is just a shitty item in general)
upgrade to 2 bloodthirsters.


Do you have enough survivability for 2 early bf swords with no health items?

I've been trying Doran, boot of speed, bf sword, then a giants belt if i have enough cash at once. After giants I'd get another bf sword. Then its a tossup between getting another bf sword, upgrading to thirsters, or finishing frozen mallet. She's still pretty damn squishy even with the KI damage reduction.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
May 04 2010 00:45 GMT
#3548
I do Doran Sorc Guise BT, it does crazy damage while giving you decent survivability. After that either GA or Rylai depending on how the game is going (GA if you can stack BT and wanna keep damaging them after you 'die' once, Rylai if you're way way way in the lead and can screw around), then the other one, then if the game's still going another BT.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
pokeyAA
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States936 Posts
May 04 2010 00:49 GMT
#3549
I also miss the old rally which added crazy amounts of AD to your Ult
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
May 04 2010 01:12 GMT
#3550
On May 04 2010 09:20 Brees wrote:
oh no my account has been suspended until may 5th. guess ill have to go outside


Justice has been served. I wasn't the one who reported you but I'm glad to see Riot is doing their job.
Retvrn to Forvms
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
May 04 2010 01:30 GMT
#3551
On May 04 2010 10:12 Chrispy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2010 09:20 Brees wrote:
oh no my account has been suspended until may 5th. guess ill have to go outside


Justice has been served. I wasn't the one who reported you but I'm glad to see Riot is doing their job.



that wasn't what got me banned btw, sorry to disappoint. I gave them plenty of time and still no action so I had to resort to racism. that finally got me banned and its only 2 days. disappointing really.

not to mention that I could just play on my real account if I wanted(which I have no desire to atm)
Brees on in
Cerumo
Profile Joined December 2009
United States40 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-04 01:36:07
May 04 2010 01:31 GMT
#3552
So I have been working on my jungle shen and am looking for some input/advice.

I usually run 1/21/8, ghost/smite, Armor pen/Dodge/MRlvl/Hp Quints
Start with doran's sheild, 1 health pot

If there is no jungler on their team I usually start our wraths (Smite blue one) -> Small creeps by liz -> small creeps by golem (Smite) -> their wraths -> their liz (Smite and usually potion here) -> their small creeps -> port back, buy 1 health pot, 1 fort pot and basic boots -> Clear our jungle starting at golem -> Dragon if 6 (usually am)

This keeps up very well in terms of speed, usually little slower than the solo lane, but faster than duals.

Problem with this is:
1) If first small creep camp is golems I usually (~80% of the time) get too low and need to blue pill.
2) Purple side pre dragon the distance from where I get 6 to the dragon is very far.
3) If the other team has a jungler I have nothing planned. I usually wing it and wind up barely keeping up with dual lanes

Tried stating cloth armor, 4 health pots and building into madreds on first blue pill, worked ok but I hate having a pretty much dead item for the game.
Also have not tried experimenting with feint yet. Seems useless because I'm strapped for energy anyway.

Any tips or changes would be nice as I'm kind of at a loss for what to do.
Iwinulose
mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
May 04 2010 01:57 GMT
#3553
Alright I've played a decent amount of Jungle Shen now and this is what I run:
Runes: Armor Pen Red, Flat Armor Yellow (Dodge works fine too whatever you own), MR/lvl Blue, Movespeed Quints

Masteries: 0/21/9 I put the 9th point in longer buff duration in utility. Improved Smite isnt that much of a benefit over just Smite

Jungling Order: I start at the camp that is farthest away from golem. If i get wolf camp first i save smite for big wraith, if I get golems i use smite since i'll get lvl 2 for wraith camp and can use feint to block off alot of the dmg.

Items: Cloth Armor: 3 hp pots or ward + hp pots if they have a jungler. I dont go for razer since shen jungles fine without them and doesnt benefit from making a bloodrazer that much.

After opening i go cloth armor - boots - leviathan - aegis - frozen mallet etc.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 04 2010 02:59 GMT
#3554
^ very similar to my build, but I open ruby crystal
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 04 2010 05:59 GMT
#3555
fuuuu, spudboy has 20 stacks again. FML

8D
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
May 04 2010 06:01 GMT
#3556
20 stacks is a norm on my shen :D
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
May 04 2010 06:07 GMT
#3557
The official response to any Jax QQ: + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
NiGoL
Profile Joined September 2008
1868 Posts
May 04 2010 09:56 GMT
#3558
Im pro with Morgana ;-d

im using NiGoL1
if someone wants to play some
http://www.twitter.com/NiGoLBW playing league on a competitive level
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
May 04 2010 11:39 GMT
#3559
I was wondering if it's possible to stick with the regular champions till level 30 or is it neccesary to buy a new champion?
In case it is neccesary, which champion(preferably a little similar to Ashe or Veigar) can you guys recommend and which items do you recommend I buy?

The reasoning for asking this is because I was in this game yesterday where there were 4 "non-standard" champions in the game and they kinda owned everyone.
wat
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
May 04 2010 12:07 GMT
#3560
On May 04 2010 20:39 EquilasH wrote:
I was wondering if it's possible to stick with the regular champions till level 30 or is it neccesary to buy a new champion?
In case it is neccesary, which champion(preferably a little similar to Ashe or Veigar) can you guys recommend and which items do you recommend I buy?

The reasoning for asking this is because I was in this game yesterday where there were 4 "non-standard" champions in the game and they kinda owned everyone.


The "standard heros" is a rotation between all heros, so it chances all the time. So your question does not make sense in that regard.

Also, it is both funny to play different heros all the time, but it is also fun to specialize in one hero and make rune pages etc. based on your playstyle etc.

Figuring builds out and such by yourself is what makes this game fun, for me at least.
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
Prev 1 176 177 178 179 180 281 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 28m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 249
RuFF_SC2 136
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 6116
Calm 4205
Pusan 282
ProTech107
910 53
ZergMaN 6
Icarus 6
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1783
Stewie2K1213
m0e_tv606
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox286
Mew2King28
Other Games
summit1g7820
C9.Mang0446
Maynarde71
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick989
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream245
Other Games
BasetradeTV244
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1221
• Stunt373
Upcoming Events
GSL
4h 28m
Rogue vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
Replay Cast
18h 58m
GSL
1d 4h
Cure vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Bunny
KCM Race Survival
1d 4h
Big Gabe
1d 6h
Replay Cast
1d 18h
Replay Cast
2 days
Escore
2 days
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
IPSL
3 days
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
BSL
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
BSL
4 days
IPSL
4 days
eOnzErG vs TBD
G5 vs Nesh
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Jaedong vs Light
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Snow vs Flash
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-28
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.