I've seen a few TakashiX Kat games, which were pretty impressive. I think he opens doran's shield, then goes sorc boots, haunting guise. I'm pretty sure he opens shunpo, as he loves to harass in lane (he's extraordinarily aggressive with Kat, to the point of diving past two towers for things that end up not being kills).

I bet if you search the solomid livestream's archives you can find one of his Kat games.

Mogwai

United States13274 Posts

April 29 2010 14:42 GMT

#3423

it sucks to play an hour long game where you should've lost by all rights at around 25 minutes, then slowly claw your way back into it tooth and nail, carrying your terrible team, only to lose when the next team fight was going to win it all because your fiddlesticks (the one guy you queued with and trusted to play well and was integral to the comeback besides yourself) decided to overextend and get 5 man ganked in your jungle.

le sigh..................

Southlight

United States11767 Posts

April 29 2010 14:48 GMT

#3424

It's just hard to be consistent with Fiddle in general, over the course of a long game. Inevitably as the game goes on you'll miss at least one time, and if your team's reliant on you your team will inevitably get crushed in at least one battle. It's tough. I love Fiddle and I love having him on my team but Turkey's right when he says "the ideal is that his ult is just a perk."

Mogwai

United States13274 Posts

April 29 2010 15:05 GMT

#3425

yea, I know, it was just frustrating. we weren't even in that game but for him. it just sucked because I think the 2 of us played pretty flawlessly from losing our first inhibitor up until that little slip up, and it's just a rough way to lose a comeback game... Fiddle out of position, 4 man gank, gg, uhg. It's just that it wasn't even an in fight mistake, it was him moving through our jungle, seeing nasus mid, moving his screen to see if they had baron buff, then getting stunned while way out of position and his screen was elsewhere.

still though, that's the type of game where there's no point in placing blame or being negative afterwards. he knows he made a mistake and will be harder on himself than anyone else really can be, so I just gotta get over it. I know the real issue started at 0 minutes when we picked Shen and Fiddle (wtf, neither of them really have a heal!)

ComusLoM

Norway3547 Posts

April 29 2010 15:07 GMT

#3426

Wow Heart of Gold finally has a use on rammus. Being a rammus main if I ever see anyone stacking them I just die a little inside, but Randuins Omen actually makes it usable. Also anyone getting anything more than 1 point in powerball until they absolutely have to is a total nub, it's ult > taunt > defensive curl >>>> powerball. The damage is negligible even maxed, and built right you'll always win 1v1 if they're stupid enough to stay and you're stupid enough to be wandering around on your own.

Brees

Marshall Islands3404 Posts

April 29 2010 15:09 GMT

#3427

On April 30 2010 00:07 ComusLoM wrote:
Wow Heart of Gold finally has a use on rammus. Being a rammus main if I ever see anyone stacking them I just die a little inside, but Randuins Omen actually makes it usable. Also anyone getting anything more than 1 point in powerball until they absolutely have to is a total nub, it's ult > taunt > defensive curl >>>> powerball. The damage is negligible even maxed, and built right you'll always win 1v1 if they're stupid enough to stay and you're stupid enough to be wandering around on your own.

AP rammus.

please dont tank vs caster teams lol makes it 5v4

maxed powerball early does insane damage.

zhonya's + tremors = geegee

edit- yesterday was terrible, played with so many braindead morons. one game was actually a 1v5, I shit you not.

shen/kayle/twitch/garen/soraka vs me as nasus. They would just slowly push and attack me but they could never kill me since I was so tanky so I would go heal back at fountain butI couldnt surrender since everyone left...dumbest game Ive ever played.

then they actually trash talked after game winning a 1vs5 0o the nerds you come across

Mogwai

United States13274 Posts

April 29 2010 15:13 GMT

#3428

you can always just afk at fountain if it's that bad. most teams have the decency to just end it vs. no resistance.

ZERG_RUSSIAN

10417 Posts

April 29 2010 16:15 GMT

#3429

Hey guys, I've been out of the loop since the patch hit (moved to Korea today!!!), but as soon as I get some stable internet access I'll be back on. Hit me up for some games, I'm usually down and the 5 man I used to queue with is now 19 hours behind me :D.

cosiant

Canada616 Posts

April 29 2010 16:23 GMT

#3430

So sad since the Morgana nerf, WHY!!!?

suffeli

Finland772 Posts

April 29 2010 16:28 GMT

#3431

Janna seems really good these days? Almost every Janna I've met is a major pain in the ass... her bubble is just ridiculous it makes her almost immune to early harass. :/

Southlight

United States11767 Posts

April 29 2010 16:31 GMT

#3432

Except they didn't really change the damage prevention of her bubble, just that the damage buff from it stays. Janna has always been a "pain in the ass" but her mana cost and damage output used to be pretty bad. Now her spells are cheaper, and the damage buff from her bubble remains, so she outputs a tremendous amount of damage while being very good at protecting/immobilizing (via zephyr/gale).

Also they haven't nerfed Morgana in ages. What the heck are you talking about.

Iplaythings

Denmark9110 Posts

April 29 2010 17:31 GMT

#3433

On April 30 2010 01:31 Southlight wrote:

Also they haven't nerfed Morgana in ages. What the heck are you talking about.

+1, thought she was buffed recently?

DanceCommander

United States1808 Posts

April 29 2010 19:40 GMT

#3434

On April 30 2010 02:31 Iplaythings wrote:

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+1, thought she was buffed recently?

they nerfed the stun, which was a HUGE FUCKING nerf imo. the damage was really just shifted into the stacks that are created from the pool, but jesus you cant go 3.5 -> 2.5 and expect people to not cry.

lol i meant 3, idk why i said 2.5

Mogwai

United States13274 Posts

April 29 2010 19:55 GMT

#3435

it's 3.5 -> 3. I mean, sure, that's a little nerf I guess, but the overall impact of the patch seems to have been a small buff to Morgana.

Southlight

United States11767 Posts

April 29 2010 19:59 GMT

#3436

It went 3.5 -> 3 but its cd got buffed from 15 -> 10, which means at 40% cd you can shoot it every 6 seconds, meaning you can bind someone 50% of the time.

Iplaythings

Denmark9110 Posts

April 29 2010 20:24 GMT

#3437

On April 30 2010 04:40 DanceCommander wrote:

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Tweak-buff. Not nerf imo.

Also you guys should try to tank Gragas if you are tired of fiddle, if he is badgering you? Ulti him away and lol at his wasted ulti

Southlight

United States11767 Posts

April 29 2010 20:43 GMT

#3438

That's what Alistar's for.

DanceCommander

United States1808 Posts

April 29 2010 20:48 GMT

#3439

JESUS CHRIST. 5 man tank. everyone goes ninja tabi and then sunfire only.. it was so fucking glorious. 5 tanks with 4k health with 3 sunfires each pushing mid. they cant get near us hahaha.

obviously we werent playing super high elo... but comon. the idea itself made me laugh. doing it was so much funnier.

Iplaythings

Denmark9110 Posts

April 29 2010 21:11 GMT

#3440

On April 30 2010 05:43 Southlight wrote:
That's what Alistar's for.

Ahw, my dreams were crushed by this and suddenly realized that gragas is like a weaker ali with more mobillity... but try gragas anyways, soo fun to play :p