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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
April 28 2010 16:00 GMT
#3401
Trynd and Yi will still suck with GB. Nid usually opens Sheen, so going for GB will lead to a really slow GB, not to mention it's 50-50 on her anyways (many prefer going AP/Lich on her, myself included, as it makes her heal insane).
Ashe Garen Panth already open Bruta so that's obvious.
Corki also opened armor pen/reduc

You're just listing most of the heroes that already relied on -armor to begin with, most of whom already opened Bruta :p
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-28 16:04:26
April 28 2010 16:03 GMT
#3402
have you played him yet though? spirit visage with imbue is hilarious now. you just never die. not to mention anything you do nets you assists. supports got such a gigantic buff this patch its not even funny.

BUY STACK ITEMS ON SUPPORTS

holy shit i was playing janna and I had 20 levi stacks in like 5 minutes. so retarded LOL

and my nidalee is pretty boss if you guys ever need one
Brees on in
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 28 2010 16:16 GMT
#3403
well, we're not talking about it's viability or it being good. I agree that it is both good and viable on a bunch of heroes. you pointed out that you were worried that it's so good that it's an automatic first pick on a bunch of dudes and it would limit build diversity, which I disagree with.

Pirate, Trynd, and Yi are good examples of characters who will almost certainly rush the ghostblade IMO. That's fine, they were all already underpowered (Pirate much less so than the others). I don't mind that it's going to be core for them now because they needed help. Besides, as I said in my other post, core items aren't really a bad thing so long as they're not so far reaching that every champion builds the same and feels the same. In fact, they're bound to happen with item diversity... certain items will naturally suit themselves to certain characters, and as players get better, they'll naturally figure out what the best items to get on their champion are.

Again, it's just about making sure that item builds power is based on the champion, not the items so that champions don't stand blending together. In fact, in this regard, ghostblade is a giant step in the right direction. It turned out that before now, Last Whisper into Infinity Edge was simply the best way you could build for autoattacking, almost completely regardless of hero. This naturally meant that ranged champions were favored for the role and they were all building the same 2 items. Ghostblade being added to the picture gives some diversity in this regard and also makes Melee much more viable for the task at hand. By giving a new and interesting item that can be better than Last Whisper on certain champs, they've greatly increased the potentially viable diversity of both builds and characters for the DPS role. Just my 2 cents on it.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
suffeli *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Finland772 Posts
April 28 2010 16:19 GMT
#3404
On April 29 2010 01:00 Southlight wrote:
Trynd and Yi will still suck with GB. Nid usually opens Sheen, so going for GB will lead to a really slow GB, not to mention it's 50-50 on her anyways (many prefer going AP/Lich on her, myself included, as it makes her heal insane).
Ashe Garen Panth already open Bruta so that's obvious.
Corki also opened armor pen/reduc

You're just listing most of the heroes that already relied on -armor to begin with, most of whom already opened Bruta :p


I build Nid the HotshotGG way: brut, guinsoo, sheen, lichbane. Ap is definately the best way to build her though. You need to get GB early, or just forget it imho. Well anyway... I think it will take at least two weeks and then we will get a proper picture how GB fits the gameplay.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 28 2010 16:21 GMT
#3405
On April 29 2010 01:03 Brees wrote:
have you played him yet though? spirit visage with imbue is hilarious now. you just never die. not to mention anything you do nets you assists. supports got such a gigantic buff this patch its not even funny.

BUY STACK ITEMS ON SUPPORTS

holy shit i was playing janna and I had 20 levi stacks in like 5 minutes. so retarded LOL

and my nidalee is pretty boss if you guys ever need one

hahaha, yea, we've all been rocking Mejais and Leviathans in games that last longer than 16 minutes with our current setup. It gets really silly :p.

yea, your nid is pretty sick, we should get you in on this gayness when you're on .
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
April 28 2010 16:21 GMT
#3406
On April 29 2010 01:03 Brees wrote:
have you played him yet though? spirit visage with imbue is hilarious now. you just never die. not to mention anything you do nets you assists. supports got such a gigantic buff this patch its not even funny.

BUY STACK ITEMS ON SUPPORTS

holy shit i was playing janna and I had 20 levi stacks in like 5 minutes. so retarded LOL

and my nidalee is pretty boss if you guys ever need one


Yeees, we started screwing around with our heal team and rushing SS/Levi lol. Like 15 minutes into one game I had 13 Levi stacks and 8 SS stacks it was pretty funny.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
suffeli *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Finland772 Posts
April 28 2010 16:28 GMT
#3407
On April 29 2010 01:16 Mogwai wrote:
well, we're not talking about it's viability or it being good. I agree that it is both good and viable on a bunch of heroes. you pointed out that you were worried that it's so good that it's an automatic first pick on a bunch of dudes and it would limit build diversity, which I disagree with.

Pirate, Trynd, and Yi are good examples of characters who will almost certainly rush the ghostblade IMO. That's fine, they were all already underpowered (Pirate much less so than the others). I don't mind that it's going to be core for them now because they needed help. Besides, as I said in my other post, core items aren't really a bad thing so long as they're not so far reaching that every champion builds the same and feels the same. In fact, they're bound to happen with item diversity... certain items will naturally suit themselves to certain characters, and as players get better, they'll naturally figure out what the best items to get on their champion are.

Again, it's just about making sure that item builds power is based on the champion, not the items so that champions don't stand blending together. In fact, in this regard, ghostblade is a giant step in the right direction. It turned out that before now, Last Whisper into Infinity Edge was simply the best way you could build for autoattacking, almost completely regardless of hero. This naturally meant that ranged champions were favored for the role and they were all building the same 2 items. Ghostblade being added to the picture gives some diversity in this regard and also makes Melee much more viable for the task at hand. By giving a new and interesting item that can be better than Last Whisper on certain champs, they've greatly increased the potentially viable diversity of both builds and characters for the DPS role. Just my 2 cents on it.


I agree with almost everything you wrote. Hmmhh.. I was probably overreacting with GB. Elementz ( a top elo player) was really dissatisfied with GB and he stated that it will ruin the game, because everyone will buy it. I Don't know what he says is right, but he has some experience to back this up. But GB still needs some time... after that we can say how good or bad it is.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
April 28 2010 16:32 GMT
#3408
GB allows you to run cleanse/exhaust or cleanse/ignite on melee DPS instead of the mandatory ghost/cleanse

thats all it did basically...i swear
Brees on in
suffeli *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Finland772 Posts
April 28 2010 16:53 GMT
#3409
Oh Btw. Here is a Nasus skin I was working on. It isn't finished and probably never will, since RL keeps meh busy. I haven't posted it anywhere yet.

[image loading]
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
April 28 2010 16:55 GMT
#3410
Awesome skin dawg!

God I wish i was on the US servers so I could play with the active posting part of TL ;(
In the woods, there lurks..
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 28 2010 16:57 GMT
#3411
I'm not gonna front, that skin's pretty hot

it's no Gentleman Cho' Gath, but damn, good job.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 28 2010 17:26 GMT
#3412
a friend of mine wants to start learning Corki, anyone (mrgrimm!!!!) have experience with him and wanna let me know how you're supposed to build and play Corki?
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-28 17:35:18
April 28 2010 17:34 GMT
#3413
:x No finishy?

And god that color scheme would play havok with my eyes LOL.

I CAN'T SEE HIM I CAN'T SEE HIM

Gawd.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
stoned_rabbit
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States324 Posts
April 28 2010 17:55 GMT
#3414
its such a ridiculously awesome skin...and as a nasus main i want it lol.

but yea, anyone want to do some AT with me? im sick of playing with fucking noobs who just pick carries without any consideration for team balance, then feed all game cuz they dont know how to play their carry.
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
April 28 2010 18:29 GMT
#3415
If you want in on arranged teaming just join LiquidParty. Seriously. It's so much easier that way.

Ghostblade has made me reconsider my Mundo build. It's very tempting but I'm not sure it's better than Stark's or 2 Zeals.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
April 29 2010 02:56 GMT
#3416
In a world where the global chat doesn't work 90% of the time...
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
April 29 2010 03:06 GMT
#3417
well... yeah... but most of the time the global chat is broken the entire system is broken and any sort of cooperation is impossible.

Speaking of cooperation, I KNEW we should have waited for someone we could trust to be competent. Blah. I think he's the worst TF I've ever seen.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
pokeyAA
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States936 Posts
April 29 2010 03:06 GMT
#3418
I think I'm gonna start playing some Kat soon to see how her buffs went through, I played AD in the past, what AP build do you use Brees?

Something like?:
Doran's Shield
Sorc Boots
Mejai Soul
Rylais
Zhonyah/Void Staff
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 29 2010 03:45 GMT
#3419
is the new haunting guise worth getting on her? It seems like a good fit imo.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-29 03:48:04
April 29 2010 03:47 GMT
#3420
i usually go

doran's shield/hp pot
boots
Rylai's asap(giant's belt is preferable as first piece)
sorc boots
Haunting guise
Zhonya's/lich bane depending on what i need. Moar death lotus or if that is getting shut down ill get the extra proc.

cleanse/ignite

9-21-0
Brees on in
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