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lmao, healers are soooooo fucking gay
EDIT: look at the time on that puppy :p
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
lmao, healers are soooooo fucking gay EDIT: look at the time on that puppy :p | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
Earlier though, played against a healing team with a team composed of corki, veigar, alistar, fiddle and jax, and basically just AoE nuked them to oblivion. | ||
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Southlight
United States11767 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
AOE disables really kill em | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Southlight
United States11767 Posts
AoE EC, even nerfed, slowly but surely turns the tide. | ||
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oberon
United States1320 Posts
On April 28 2010 10:52 Southlight wrote: Um, as a bunch of us pointed out to you guys before, as you go up in Elo you'll notice no one really lanes. I remember Mogwai being completely caught off-guard by it when he first played with my little group of friends. This is clearly not the case, as I watch a fair amount of solomid streaming, and they always lane. Yes, they lane right, with lots of ganking, dragoning, and early teamfights, but they DO lane. Still, those were two painful games. My first losses where it was obviously macro mistakes (map control/awareness, positioning) rather than micro (misuse skills, someone engages when they shouldn't) that really cost us. | ||
suffeli
Finland772 Posts
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On April 28 2010 14:42 Mogwai wrote: one of the things I really love about AP Ez in this setup is ruing their initiation with cleanse... it's like, they start their burst shit with an AoE disable, I just cleanse, shift to the right spot and just unload an essense flux -> ult combo to heal my team and burst their whole team (not to mention the initiator eats my shift damage), Soraka wakes up out of the disable, wishes, and now everyone's at full health and they're all minus a bunch from at least my ult, if not also the flux if they needed to get amongst my team to do their burst. I think the other team needs like, 2 other good mass disables + Fiddle to really burst through the healing of a focused team like that. wouldnt u just die to the burst ? ezreal is damn squishy | ||
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azndsh
United States4447 Posts
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
And the thing is unlike ryze, you don`t even need to run up to nuke anyone, you can just sit back, spam your AoE nuke, and then wait someone comes into your range so that you don`t get focus fired, and insta-kill or at least majorly gimp one guy. The only problem with veigar is his absolutely-crap early game. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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LordWeird
United States3411 Posts
AN ALLY HAS BEEN SLAIN AN ALLY HAS BEEN SLAIN AN ALLY HAS BEEN SLAIN AN ENEMY IS LEGENDARY!!!! AN ALLY HAS BEEN SLAIN FUCK! | ||
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oberon
United States1320 Posts
On April 28 2010 18:52 Juicyfruit wrote: Veigar with deathfire grasp is pretty BS. At level 11 I was nuking down most casters with just deathfire and my ulti. Engame, veigar has somewhere between 400-600AP so deathfire grasp takes out at least 45% of their health regardless of who they are. Tanks sometimes required my other two attack skills but they`re down at least 90% health. And the thing is unlike ryze, you don`t even need to run up to nuke anyone, you can just sit back, spam your AoE nuke, and then wait someone comes into your range so that you don`t get focus fired, and insta-kill or at least majorly gimp one guy. The only problem with veigar is his absolutely-crap early game. At one point, I was working on an epic-nuke Veigar build. The idea was to run ignite as a summoner spell, then build deathfire grasp, sorc boots, and lich bane (if the game continues: zhonya's, mejai, veil, whatever). That gives you his Q, his R, ignite, dfg's active, and lich bane's passive on his next autoattack as nukes, 4 of which are AP based. Unfortunately, you have to make an early choice of skills: meteor so you can farm at all, or Q/stun so your build works before L18. I found success with neither. | ||
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Dr.Kill-Joy
United States627 Posts
That fuckin new item that increases +30 attack +15 crit is op as fuck. All I have to say. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On April 28 2010 20:26 oberon wrote: At one point, I was working on an epic-nuke Veigar build. The idea was to run ignite as a summoner spell, then build deathfire grasp, sorc boots, and lich bane (if the game continues: zhonya's, mejai, veil, whatever). That gives you his Q, his R, ignite, dfg's active, and lich bane's passive on his next autoattack as nukes, 4 of which are AP based. Unfortunately, you have to make an early choice of skills: meteor so you can farm at all, or Q/stun so your build works before L18. I found success with neither. Level 2 stun is enough to land your AoE, and that`s what really matters. Your spells unload FAST. I am not a huge fan of normal attacking with veigar at all since his attack animation is SOOOO slow. No lichbane for me. I usually nuke, aiming for someone i know I can kill, and then gtfo. Frankly though, since your AP is so high, the base level of your spells don`t matter as much; you can easily farm with a non-maxed AoE spell once you have at least 200AP, which is decently early. No ignite for me. Teleport and Flash all the way. Teleport because veigar is totally boss at guarding towers and sometimes you can gank really well with it if you put down a ward in the right place. Flash is mostly to save your ass in a teamfight after you unload your nuke. Good players usually watch for me careful in a teamfight and focus fire as soon as I make a move, so I pretty much stay back and wait for them to initiate. You can also pull a poppy and flash in, nuke their main DPS or caster, and then die. They never see that coming. It`s always worth it for me to suicide and take out one of them since I get 5AP for it, and am pretty lousy at pushing towers anyways. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On April 28 2010 18:30 HeavOnEarth wrote: wouldnt u just die to the burst ? ezreal is damn squishy you would, but that's why you cleanse out of the disable that's setting up the AoE damage output, then you arcane shift to a position that lets you mitigate the burst on your teammates with your heal. On April 28 2010 20:27 Dr.Kill-Joy wrote: Did you edit the fuck in there haha. That fuckin new item that increases +30 attack +15 crit is op as fuck. All I have to say. Ghostblade is very good on some heroes, but it's not OP by a long shot. The heroes it's designed for are the most underpowered out there (Melee DPS). And I mean, come on, what healer has a use for ghostblade? :p (well, besides maybe Nidalee, but she wouldn't want it until after sheen and visage anyway and by that point, the game's already over) | ||
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suffeli
Finland772 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
It really doesn't destroy all the diversity in item builds. There are a whole buttload of heroes who have sheen as a mandatory 1st item, yet no one's complaining about that and it's largely because what you do after sheen is very diverse. And honestly, I'm not sure which characters you're talking about needing to get ghostblade first. Trynd and Yi are the only 2 that I really think would have no other viable options. Who else do you think has to get Youmuu's? | ||
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