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We have created an irc channel (#tl-smash on Quakenet) for people to find others to play with on Dolphin or just to chat about Smash. Feel free to join!
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-02 07:12:34
December 02 2015 07:11 GMT
#3281
This was posted on the PM subreddit before being removed.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3455 Posts
December 02 2015 17:30 GMT
#3282
I loved Project M.
Played it for hours at evo.
I hope it returns...
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
Jaedrik
Profile Joined June 2015
113 Posts
December 03 2015 01:53 GMT
#3283
On December 02 2015 16:11 OnceKing wrote:
This was posted on the PM subreddit before being removed.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Hylian on this:

"I'm not really sure why this rumor is spreading considering zero people that work at wavedash games(I know both of them) have ever worked on PM or been a part of the PMDT. I don't even think they've played PM. WD games has nothing to do with PM at all lol.

There is no reason to slander that company when they have nothing to do with PM at all.

Edit: Feel free to quote this post on reddit or wherever, my postbit should be credentials enough."

The truth is most likely that the Jedi Council (SOJ, SB, Warchamp ?) got council with the lawyer on Knuckles and Lyn etc, and they got fearful for their own livelihoods and buggered out. Or they got legal threats and can't talk about it.

Here's probably the most truthful and informative thread about the whole thing, has most of the info congregated in it. Also Wiiztec is former PMDT:

https://www.reddit.com/r/NewPMDT/comments/3v5710/wiiztec_former_pmdt_ama/
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
December 03 2015 09:37 GMT
#3284
On December 02 2015 13:56 eviltomahawk wrote:
Project M just announced that they're ceasing development

Show nested quote +
Hello friends,

Six years ago, we started a journey born out of our shared love for competitive fighting games. Eventually, the electrifying passion that coursed through us arced out and drew in more people until our small circle of friends grew into a team, and that team grew into an international community. Project M and its community have grown larger than any of us ever anticipated, and it’s truly heartwarming to see all of the unforgettable connections and friendships that have been forged through this project.

Unfortunately, we’re here to say that we’re at the end of that road.

We’ve learned so much in the process of making Project M—accumulating life-changing lessons in communication, team work, professionalism, work ethic, and more—but there’s only so far we can take those skills in a volunteer project. With this in mind, we’ve made a difficult business decision: We’re ready to finish development here and move on to bigger and better ventures.

We realize that this will come as a shock to many of our fans. Please, forgive us. Again, it’s been an excruciating call to make, but it’s been made a bit easier by our satisfaction with the previous and final release, v3.6. We’ve spent six years polishing Project M, and rather than let it drag on through another several years of dwindling development and change-fatigue in the competitive circle, we’re going to consider our work complete.

In the mean time, we plan to be hard at work on new projects, built from the ground up. We can’t spill the beans just yet, but know that we’re looking towards a fresh start with brand new designs. Rather than splitting our focus, many of us want to dedicate ourselves to this new venture fully. In this way, we hope to maintain the level of quality and professionalism you’ve come to expect from us.

In summary, we are ceasing development of Project M (effective immediately) and will be making no further releases as we turn our attention towards an entirely new venture. As the PMDev team will be formally disbanded, please forward all official communications regarding Project M to video game attorney and business consultant . We appreciate your support and your understanding.

One final time,

PMDev

Thank you for playing!


http://projectmgame.com/en/

Maybe this deserves its own thread.

yup, thinking so now

ive started throwing in wavedashes whilst dding so ill extend my dd or dash forwards wd back and still be facing forwards, anyone have any thoughts on if this is good/bad/terrible or even if theres anyone that really does it a lot at a high level?
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
alukarD
Profile Joined July 2012
Mexico396 Posts
December 03 2015 18:15 GMT
#3285
Ok I know this is not a "Post your Top 10" thread, but since people were commentating about it just a few days ago, I just want to give my personal opinion.

First: THE BIG SIX

Armada: I believe he deserves the undisputed number one spot for this year so far. He has been the most dominant and consistent vs the other gods, as well as the most feared by all. Nobody wants to face Armada.

Hungrybox: He is being playing good, placings high at tournaments on both doubles and singles (1st Paragon, 2nd Evo & 1st Dreamhack). Also, he is being pretty much the only one to give a fight against Armada, having always close sets, and going back and forth. Armada has been dominating pretty much everyone except from Hungrybox (One could argue because of his character Jigglypuff). Also, where is the Liquid bias!

Leffen: This year Leffen showed up with big results (3rd Apex, 1st CEO, 5th Evo, and multiple other 1st places in "smaller" tournaments such as WTFOX). Everybody expected Leffen to get higher at Evo, but that's how much everybody knows he has improved and how good he is at the moment. Yes, he has gotten wrecked big time by players like Plup & Westballz, but who doesn't from time to time? Maybe he has "choked" at some matches he was expected to win, but I think that the other player played out of his mind more than Leffen played bad. And when Leffen is on point (like all of the Big 6) he truly scares people.

Mango: Yeap, he has been a buster. It feels like forever since Mango won a major (he did win a couple of not-as-major tournaments such as Press Start). But I think this was bound to happen because of his agro-style. I believe the meta has caught up and its been hurting him. But Mango has really been putting a show. This kid is good, we all know that. He has been busted most of the times by Armada, Hungrybox & Plup (and most recently Westballz) because, well, I think they "got his number" or figured him out. But make no doubt, he will be back at the top. Its just a matter of time.

PPMD: One of the biggest issue with PPMD is that he doesn't attend many tournaments. Asides of that, he is the real deal. The first obvious thing: 1st place at Apex. That was a while ago, but very impressive nonetheless. And the second obvious thing: 3rd place at Evo. Some might say easy bracket and struggles with SFAT & Hugs. Well, maybe, but he played oh-so-good, and he didn't get stomped by Armada, he lost 3-0, but he really put up a fight and a show. And getting beat by the top 2 players of melee can't really be counted as "getting wrecked". And he is a consistent performer, rarely a buster. One of my personal favorite players to watch.

M2K: Same as PPMD, he has being choosing the tournaments he goes to very carefully, which is shame. Another point to note on M2K, is that he plays other Smash games, and he is really good at those as well. Not as many results to show up as the rest, but he is still a god, and can beat any of the other Big 6 at any time. Don't ever sleep on the king.

ROUNDING UP THE TOP 10 (SEMI-GODS?)

Plup: I believe he is the closest to the gods so far, showing great play with both Sheik & Samus, constantly having great matches and trading sets with Mango, getting consistent top 8s, but always getting wrecked by Armada. No shame there.

Axe: Very close to the gods and Plup as well, Axe has really impressed me. He almost beat Armada recently, which would've been totally nuts. Axe is really good having such great results and games vs the very best, and using Pikachu. He as well rounds up most of the top 8s.

Westballz: This guy skill is up the roof, it is known. He is right there, giving the gods a run for their money every time he is given the opportunity. He just went on an amazing run at Dreamhack finishing 4th and beating Mango soundly on the way, at Evo he was doing great but got Chudat-ed, and Plup seems to have his number for some reason.

Shroomed: This guy keeps improving with his Sheik, and it seems he just keeps getting better. I really had to put him here. There are a lot of good players really close on this 10-15th area, but consistency is the name of the game, and Shroomed is quite good at that game.

PERSONAL SHOUTOUT: Duck & Druggedfox! Really looking for more from this guys.

Disclaimer: I LOVE THIS GAME
Die Trying
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-03 19:43:48
December 03 2015 19:29 GMT
#3286
did a huge thing on westballz vs axe results and sets

in brackets is who they lost to that tournament, if there is BEATS in the brackets its who of the top 8 they beat that tournament

+ Show Spoiler +

Westballz - Axe

2 - 1 Smash the Target
(TAI AXE)
4 - 7-8 Paragon
(BEATS PLUP) (PLUP LEFFEN) (M2K LEFFEN)
33-48 - 13-16 Apex
(KIRBYKAZE EDDY MEXICO) (SFAT SHROOMED)
2 - 3 Sandstorm
(BEATS MANGO HBOX AXE) (MACD ARMADA) (BEATS LEFFEN MANGO) (ARMADA WESTBALLZ)
13-16 - 7-8 EVO
(KEN CHUDAT) (HUGS LEFFEN)
4 - 3 Super Smash Con
(LEFFEN AXE) (BEATS WESTBALLZ) (M2K M2K)
4 - 5-6 Paragon LA
(BEATS AXE) (M2K HBOX) (MANGO WESTBALLZ)
5-6 - 17-24 TBH 5
(SWEDISHDELIGHT MANGO) (ABATE SHROOMED)
9-12 - 7-8 Smash Summit
(PPMD SHROOMED) (SFAT MANGO)
4 - 9-12 DHW
(BEATS LEFFEN MANGO) (HBOX PLUP) (HBOX MACD)

------------------------

X - 3 Press Start (BEATS WESTBALLZ) (MANGO LOSERS KILLS WESTBALLZ) (FLY MANGO)
X - 3 Low Tier City (Wobbles M2K)
X - 5-6 HTC Throwdown (HBOX M2K)
X - 3 MLG (BEATS M2K) (HBOX M2K)
X - 3 Eclipse (ARMADA LEFFEN)

5-6 - X I'm Not Yelling (Shroomed PEWPEWU)
4 - X CEO (PLUP MANGO)
5-6 - X FC Smash Return (ARMADA MACD)
5-6 - X WTFox (M2K MANGO)
3 - X PAX (M2K LEFFEN)
2 - X DHL (ARMADA ARMADA)
2 - X Helix (ICE ARMADA)

------------------------

SET COUNT:
3 - 4

TOP 7 SET COUNT:
5 - 3

LOSSES TO NOT TOP 8:
12 - 9


i hope someone else understand what ive done there

also say if somethings wrong
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-03 20:36:12
December 03 2015 20:36 GMT
#3287
On December 03 2015 02:30 Trozz wrote:
I loved Project M.
Played it for hours at evo.
I hope it returns...


Trozz you were at EVO???? dammit I didn't meet you
Writer
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8032 Posts
December 03 2015 21:02 GMT
#3288
On December 03 2015 18:37 Targe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2015 13:56 eviltomahawk wrote:
Project M just announced that they're ceasing development

Hello friends,

Six years ago, we started a journey born out of our shared love for competitive fighting games. Eventually, the electrifying passion that coursed through us arced out and drew in more people until our small circle of friends grew into a team, and that team grew into an international community. Project M and its community have grown larger than any of us ever anticipated, and it’s truly heartwarming to see all of the unforgettable connections and friendships that have been forged through this project.

Unfortunately, we’re here to say that we’re at the end of that road.

We’ve learned so much in the process of making Project M—accumulating life-changing lessons in communication, team work, professionalism, work ethic, and more—but there’s only so far we can take those skills in a volunteer project. With this in mind, we’ve made a difficult business decision: We’re ready to finish development here and move on to bigger and better ventures.

We realize that this will come as a shock to many of our fans. Please, forgive us. Again, it’s been an excruciating call to make, but it’s been made a bit easier by our satisfaction with the previous and final release, v3.6. We’ve spent six years polishing Project M, and rather than let it drag on through another several years of dwindling development and change-fatigue in the competitive circle, we’re going to consider our work complete.

In the mean time, we plan to be hard at work on new projects, built from the ground up. We can’t spill the beans just yet, but know that we’re looking towards a fresh start with brand new designs. Rather than splitting our focus, many of us want to dedicate ourselves to this new venture fully. In this way, we hope to maintain the level of quality and professionalism you’ve come to expect from us.

In summary, we are ceasing development of Project M (effective immediately) and will be making no further releases as we turn our attention towards an entirely new venture. As the PMDev team will be formally disbanded, please forward all official communications regarding Project M to video game attorney and business consultant . We appreciate your support and your understanding.

One final time,

PMDev

Thank you for playing!


http://projectmgame.com/en/

Maybe this deserves its own thread.

yup, thinking so now

ive started throwing in wavedashes whilst dding so ill extend my dd or dash forwards wd back and still be facing forwards, anyone have any thoughts on if this is good/bad/terrible or even if theres anyone that really does it a lot at a high level?

Watch PPMD's Marth. It's super useful.
Liquipedia
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-03 22:35:06
December 03 2015 22:23 GMT
#3289
On December 04 2015 06:02 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 18:37 Targe wrote:
On December 02 2015 13:56 eviltomahawk wrote:
Project M just announced that they're ceasing development

Hello friends,

Six years ago, we started a journey born out of our shared love for competitive fighting games. Eventually, the electrifying passion that coursed through us arced out and drew in more people until our small circle of friends grew into a team, and that team grew into an international community. Project M and its community have grown larger than any of us ever anticipated, and it’s truly heartwarming to see all of the unforgettable connections and friendships that have been forged through this project.

Unfortunately, we’re here to say that we’re at the end of that road.

We’ve learned so much in the process of making Project M—accumulating life-changing lessons in communication, team work, professionalism, work ethic, and more—but there’s only so far we can take those skills in a volunteer project. With this in mind, we’ve made a difficult business decision: We’re ready to finish development here and move on to bigger and better ventures.

We realize that this will come as a shock to many of our fans. Please, forgive us. Again, it’s been an excruciating call to make, but it’s been made a bit easier by our satisfaction with the previous and final release, v3.6. We’ve spent six years polishing Project M, and rather than let it drag on through another several years of dwindling development and change-fatigue in the competitive circle, we’re going to consider our work complete.

In the mean time, we plan to be hard at work on new projects, built from the ground up. We can’t spill the beans just yet, but know that we’re looking towards a fresh start with brand new designs. Rather than splitting our focus, many of us want to dedicate ourselves to this new venture fully. In this way, we hope to maintain the level of quality and professionalism you’ve come to expect from us.

In summary, we are ceasing development of Project M (effective immediately) and will be making no further releases as we turn our attention towards an entirely new venture. As the PMDev team will be formally disbanded, please forward all official communications regarding Project M to video game attorney and business consultant . We appreciate your support and your understanding.

One final time,

PMDev

Thank you for playing!


http://projectmgame.com/en/

Maybe this deserves its own thread.

yup, thinking so now

ive started throwing in wavedashes whilst dding so ill extend my dd or dash forwards wd back and still be facing forwards, anyone have any thoughts on if this is good/bad/terrible or even if theres anyone that really does it a lot at a high level?

Watch PPMD's Marth. It's super useful.

appreciated, watching his falco too as that seems like it should be pretty useful

WTF whenever hes forced high into the air he edge cancels his dair as he comes down
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
December 04 2015 04:06 GMT
#3290
TL+ Member
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3455 Posts
December 04 2015 04:52 GMT
#3291
On December 04 2015 05:36 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 02:30 Trozz wrote:
I loved Project M.
Played it for hours at evo.
I hope it returns...


Trozz you were at EVO???? dammit I didn't meet you


Maybe we did meet.
I wore a red meat boy shirt,
And the TL shirt.
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
Jaedrik
Profile Joined June 2015
113 Posts
December 05 2015 02:15 GMT
#3292
Hey, guys, I've come to show you what I've written about the whole Project M debacle as of late:
https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/3vhqg3/what_has_been_done_the_way_forward_and_a/
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
December 06 2015 05:18 GMT
#3293
i'm interested in buying melee stuff and gamecube + controllers are surprisingly cheap on amazon but the game itself is like $70 used which is like yikes
is there any way to get it cheaper or do i just need to bite the bullet?
brood war for life, brood war forever
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8032 Posts
December 06 2015 08:02 GMT
#3294
Look at local pawnshops for melee discs.
You could also buy an old version Wii and boot melee through homebrew.
Liquipedia
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
December 06 2015 12:30 GMT
#3295
get a second hand wii and you just have to mod it and you can run games off an sd card
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19152 Posts
December 06 2015 17:29 GMT
#3296
or burn 20xx to a disc and play from there. Every game I've loaded off the SD card is slow and annoying
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
December 06 2015 18:20 GMT
#3297
my disc drive doesnt wort
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-06 23:11:34
December 06 2015 23:11 GMT
#3298
Got my disc from a garage sale for like $5 pretty good condition with minor scratches #worth
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
December 07 2015 11:00 GMT
#3299
sd card isn't _that_ annoying, idk

I paid (cost of a nice meal) aka ~$30 to my friend for his copy of melee, heh
Writer
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
December 07 2015 16:56 GMT
#3300
Are there any major tournies coming up between now and Genesis3?
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