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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
November 29 2015 08:32 GMT
#3261
On November 29 2015 07:22 aRyuujin wrote:
did liquid get hbox a psychologist?


that's his fellow Floridian CaptainCrunch
Writer
nikj
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada669 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-29 23:13:49
November 29 2015 14:17 GMT
#3262
Any VODs of the final yet?
Y'know sometimes people ask me y'know like "What's your religion and stuff?" And I'm like "y' know it's like RTS." Uh, and they're like, "What's that?" And I'm like, "Y'know it's kinda like, kinda like Buddism."
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
November 29 2015 15:11 GMT
#3263
damn i didnt expect this
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Fazers
Profile Joined August 2013
737 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-29 21:30:21
November 29 2015 21:27 GMT
#3264
I was one stock away from making it out of round robin pools at a ~80 man tournament.

I went 3-3. I played a really close set with the C. Falcon player that made it into bracket instead of me. Although I am a Falco main, I sometimes go Marth vs Falcon because I have a ton of experience in this matchup. I went marth for all three games.

G1: three stock deficit, but made the comeback with 1 gimp and two clean edgeguards
G2: last stock last hit, choked and got killed
G3: was down three stocks to one. One solid edgeguard, one ken combo, then last hit last stock situation again where I choked once again.

In consolation bracket (~34 players), I went 5-2 so I wasn't too upset about that but I really would have loved to make it into the main bracket, although there I probably would have gone 0-2 or 1-2 at best lol.

On the other hand it still seems like my Falco vs Peach is a huge weakness. I just get bodied in it and don't really stand a chance. TT;
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
November 29 2015 23:12 GMT
#3265
in my bracket experience so far ive found falco vs falcon worse than falco vs peach

but ive had more practice vs peach (even if its not a lot still) :S
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19237 Posts
November 30 2015 01:13 GMT
#3266
That's usually how it goes. I have way more practice against Samus and Ganondorf than I do against Marth and Fox, so those are my better matchups, even though I'll very rarely encounter other Samsuses or Dorfs.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-30 16:51:47
November 30 2015 15:38 GMT
#3267
We defso need more space if we come back to dhw, but it was still really nice I think!

Crowd wanted Armada to win, but Hungrybox really deserved the W!
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 30 2015 16:50 GMT
#3268
I'm really starting to think that Mang0 is in more than a slump. His entire 2015 has been relatively unimpressive (for his standards obviously).

Where do you think the players currently stack up? At this point, I believe it's hard to put Hbox anywhere lower than 2.

1. Armada
2. Hbox
3. Leffen??
4. Mang0??
5. m2k??
6. PPMD??

I'm tempted to put m2k above mang0, partially because i'm a fanboy, but it's true that m2k hasn't been to as many big name tournaments this year. I'm even considering dropping PPMD as low as 7-8 below Plup and/or Westballz. The top 10 is certainly more interesting in 2015
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-30 17:21:14
November 30 2015 17:19 GMT
#3269
On December 01 2015 01:50 darthfoley wrote:
I'm really starting to think that Mang0 is in more than a slump. His entire 2015 has been relatively unimpressive (for his standards obviously).

Where do you think the players currently stack up? At this point, I believe it's hard to put Hbox anywhere lower than 2.

1. Armada
2. Hbox
3. Leffen??
4. Mang0??
5. m2k??
6. PPMD??

I'm tempted to put m2k above mang0, partially because i'm a fanboy, but it's true that m2k hasn't been to as many big name tournaments this year. I'm even considering dropping PPMD as low as 7-8 below Plup and/or Westballz. The top 10 is certainly more interesting in 2015

2nd must the most controversial spot so far, although I have go fo with Year of Leffeb. Leffen was even in contention for 1 at one point, and I think hbox at #3 is still nice for him because it means he edged out his long time rival mango
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
December 01 2015 03:46 GMT
#3270
hbox + axe team looks unfair
like wow
brood war for life, brood war forever
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-01 09:18:54
December 01 2015 09:02 GMT
#3271
I find it hard to put hbox over leffen, hasn't leffen won like 6 major tournaments this year?

Holy shit I just saw you thought of putting m2k above mango. That's def not right

Armada
Leffen
Hbox
Mango
M2k
PP
Plup
Westballz
Axe
Shroomed

That's what it will be imo
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 01 2015 16:46 GMT
#3272
I couldn't put PP below anyone not top six even though he hasn't been to that much this year. 1st at Apex is still more impressive than anything the rest of the non top 6 did all year and he got 3rd at EVO.

Plus that swag money PP bias. I actually did my own top 50 just for fun I may put it in a blog at some point but it seems a bit redundant with MIOM's coming out which will be much more seriously looked at I'm sure
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-01 20:02:47
December 01 2015 19:33 GMT
#3273
PP's Evo 3rd was a pretty soft bracket that he still had to struggle through (1-2 vs Sfat and Hugs), before getting soundly trounced (3-0) by Armada and Hbox...

IDK if it's enough to put him below top 6 but it's not -that- outlandish an idea. His most recent outing at Summit was super weak too.
TranslatorBaa!
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-01 23:03:54
December 01 2015 20:52 GMT
#3274
I think PP's results at evo and smash summit show he should be 6, it was evident he couldn't keep up with the rest of the top 6 but he only dropped one set to a non top 6 member, 2-3 vs plup at summit with a set count between them of 1-1 (4-3 to pp in games) and plup is the likely contender for 7th.

It's definitely a weird situation however with so little data available.

(even has a win over westballz, another top 10 member, although 3-2 last stock)
(another note, I didn't realise this but Plup's Dreamhack run involved beating Westballz and MacD but no other top 15 players and none of the top 6)

Plup's argument would be that he's been to more, but it also shows him losing to non top 6 players more, with losses to MacD, Shroomed, Axe, HomeMadeWaffles and Lucky in tournaments post EVO (asuming Apex to EVO PP is considered much better due to his MIOM placing earlier this year).
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1970 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-01 21:44:50
December 01 2015 21:44 GMT
#3275
Plup knocked Mango out of winners bracket at dreamhack, 3-2.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-01 23:03:26
December 01 2015 22:54 GMT
#3276
my b

was gonna say that seemed too weird
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-02 04:56:25
December 02 2015 04:56 GMT
#3277
Project M just announced that they're ceasing development

Hello friends,

Six years ago, we started a journey born out of our shared love for competitive fighting games. Eventually, the electrifying passion that coursed through us arced out and drew in more people until our small circle of friends grew into a team, and that team grew into an international community. Project M and its community have grown larger than any of us ever anticipated, and it’s truly heartwarming to see all of the unforgettable connections and friendships that have been forged through this project.

Unfortunately, we’re here to say that we’re at the end of that road.

We’ve learned so much in the process of making Project M—accumulating life-changing lessons in communication, team work, professionalism, work ethic, and more—but there’s only so far we can take those skills in a volunteer project. With this in mind, we’ve made a difficult business decision: We’re ready to finish development here and move on to bigger and better ventures.

We realize that this will come as a shock to many of our fans. Please, forgive us. Again, it’s been an excruciating call to make, but it’s been made a bit easier by our satisfaction with the previous and final release, v3.6. We’ve spent six years polishing Project M, and rather than let it drag on through another several years of dwindling development and change-fatigue in the competitive circle, we’re going to consider our work complete.

In the mean time, we plan to be hard at work on new projects, built from the ground up. We can’t spill the beans just yet, but know that we’re looking towards a fresh start with brand new designs. Rather than splitting our focus, many of us want to dedicate ourselves to this new venture fully. In this way, we hope to maintain the level of quality and professionalism you’ve come to expect from us.

In summary, we are ceasing development of Project M (effective immediately) and will be making no further releases as we turn our attention towards an entirely new venture. As the PMDev team will be formally disbanded, please forward all official communications regarding Project M to video game attorney and business consultant . We appreciate your support and your understanding.

One final time,

PMDev

Thank you for playing!


http://projectmgame.com/en/

Maybe this deserves its own thread.
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Jaedrik
Profile Joined June 2015
113 Posts
December 02 2015 05:29 GMT
#3278
On December 02 2015 13:56 eviltomahawk wrote:
Project M just announced that they're ceasing development

Show nested quote +
Hello friends,

Six years ago, we started a journey born out of our shared love for competitive fighting games. Eventually, the electrifying passion that coursed through us arced out and drew in more people until our small circle of friends grew into a team, and that team grew into an international community. Project M and its community have grown larger than any of us ever anticipated, and it’s truly heartwarming to see all of the unforgettable connections and friendships that have been forged through this project.

Unfortunately, we’re here to say that we’re at the end of that road.

We’ve learned so much in the process of making Project M—accumulating life-changing lessons in communication, team work, professionalism, work ethic, and more—but there’s only so far we can take those skills in a volunteer project. With this in mind, we’ve made a difficult business decision: We’re ready to finish development here and move on to bigger and better ventures.

We realize that this will come as a shock to many of our fans. Please, forgive us. Again, it’s been an excruciating call to make, but it’s been made a bit easier by our satisfaction with the previous and final release, v3.6. We’ve spent six years polishing Project M, and rather than let it drag on through another several years of dwindling development and change-fatigue in the competitive circle, we’re going to consider our work complete.

In the mean time, we plan to be hard at work on new projects, built from the ground up. We can’t spill the beans just yet, but know that we’re looking towards a fresh start with brand new designs. Rather than splitting our focus, many of us want to dedicate ourselves to this new venture fully. In this way, we hope to maintain the level of quality and professionalism you’ve come to expect from us.

In summary, we are ceasing development of Project M (effective immediately) and will be making no further releases as we turn our attention towards an entirely new venture. As the PMDev team will be formally disbanded, please forward all official communications regarding Project M to video game attorney and business consultant . We appreciate your support and your understanding.

One final time,

PMDev

Thank you for playing!


http://projectmgame.com/en/

Maybe this deserves its own thread.


'Tis a sad day indeed.
Warchamp and the rest of the dev team insist there's no C&D or legal action OR threats involved at all.
Everyone on Smashboards / Reddit is having a hard time of believing it.
But I like the lawyer they link to purely on the basis that he plays vidya gaymes.
Come what may.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 02 2015 05:38 GMT
#3279
Maybe valve offered to publish super dota brothers with them or something else, as a positive hope, however small that might be.

Kind of sad it went out like this though. Even though I greatly preferred melee pm was still fun.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
December 02 2015 06:03 GMT
#3280
On December 02 2015 14:38 bo1b wrote:
Maybe valve offered to publish super dota brothers with them or something else, as a positive hope, however small that might be.

Kind of sad it went out like this though. Even though I greatly preferred melee pm was still fun.

There are already a couple of indie-made Smash Bros clones on Steam. I have a friend who is working on one of them called Rivals of Aether.
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