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Heart Buster
Profile Joined April 2013
Japan32 Posts
January 02 2015 05:11 GMT
#2121
On December 30 2014 02:36 ShrieK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2014 19:57 adPEXtwinDoNG wrote:
On December 28 2014 05:11 ShrieK wrote:
On December 27 2014 12:19 Aveng3r wrote:
On December 27 2014 04:27 OnceKing wrote:
well it's right as he grabs you 'til he throws you but it's better to anticipate the grab and already be holding in that direction in case he throws immediately

thanks, this is what I was looking for. I feel like im getting the timing down a little better but if he delays the throw he can usually bait me into a premature di attempt

There's no such thing as a "premature DI attempt"

Just hold the direction


If you prematurely hold a direction and the opponent mixes up the throw you can be screwed. Don't let the opponent condition you into DI'ing poorly.

Well, in this case, only uthrow and dthrow combo into rest, and dthrow has a century of startup time that you can react to. If you are at percents where fthrow or bthrow are gonna kill you, I don't think uthrow rest is an issue.

ok the second problem is you get thrown offstage. you can't tunnel on rest even though that's most of the issue

Falco dies offstage almost immediately so you don't want to let puff do that. Not only do you prepare for the rest, you are able to hold towards the stage too (or preferably to a platform). Your % matters here as in low% it shouldn't matter too much. Everything can be predicted but you have to make it as hard for puff as you can (don't get baired, throw into aerial usually means an easy gimp on Falco)

Fthrow scales much stronger than puff's bthrow such that if you di the fthrow, you should also be DI-ing uthrow properly

if he's conditioning your DI then you gotta mix it up DI more. I know I struggle into getting randomly rested in this matchup as well
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
January 02 2015 16:25 GMT
#2122
Literally any DI left or right is DI'ing puff uthrow properly so just hold a direction. Any other puff throw has enough startup frames that you can react.

It's Puff guys it's not that hard.
Nickemwit
Profile Joined December 2007
United States253 Posts
January 02 2015 18:16 GMT
#2123
On January 03 2015 01:25 hariooo wrote:
Literally any DI left or right is DI'ing puff uthrow properly so just hold a direction. Any other puff throw has enough startup frames that you can react.

It's Puff guys it's not that hard.

Lol, seriously. And come on. You aren't gonna get uthrow rested at like 70, and you aren't gonna get fthrown to death at 10. This isn't really a mixup situation
Fight Fire with ShrieK
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
January 03 2015 07:25 GMT
#2124
speaking of throws... are there any setups for marth to do uthrow and tipper fsmash on spacies other than the trivial one between 60-75ish percent? i haven't actually been able to find a completely accurate chaingrab tree.
i know this thread exists but the information in it is pretty unreliable (i mean the idea of anyone getting a uthrow fsmash at 90% on a space animal is ridiculous).

specifically i'm looking for when tipper uair or sourspot uair would combo into fsmash
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-03 18:17:27
January 03 2015 18:13 GMT
#2125
I really don't know enough about marth vs. spacies
Writer@WriterYamato
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
January 03 2015 18:19 GMT
#2126
Man, if only they would reopen the "General Event/LR Thread" thread.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
January 03 2015 19:19 GMT
#2127
Well, a Pikachu just got stomped 4 times in a row by a Ganon. Someone clearly doesn't like Pokemon...
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1969 Posts
January 03 2015 21:33 GMT
#2128
Is there a tourny going on right now? If so can you post the link please.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
January 03 2015 22:28 GMT
#2129
Yep - SWEET Prologue

http://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp

And since no one ever posts links to brackets, here: http://sweetprologue.challonge.com/
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
January 03 2015 22:37 GMT
#2130
also an AZ tournament with axe, wobbles, westballz, tai, kira, squid, etc etc
http://www.twitch.tv/azmeleecommunity
http://www.twitch.tv/makerhouse

also two tri-state tournies, a european (?) tourney, a canadian tourney, and an alabama (?) tourney

just look at http://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Super Smash Bros. Melee
Writer
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
January 04 2015 07:17 GMT
#2131
Axe defeats West 4-4 in GF's.
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-06 07:57:16
January 06 2015 05:02 GMT
#2132
Dang, am I glad my local scene is fairly strong. PM being dropped in a lot of places D:

There were actually two Vancouver tournies this weekend! A PM/Smash 4 one, then a Melee/PM/Smash 4 one the next day, hosted by the same group with different partners.

I love my scene :D
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
-Kaiser-
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada932 Posts
January 06 2015 07:41 GMT
#2133
Cedstick, where was melee? The only large tournament I thought was happening this weekend was Jesse's smash 4/PM at UBC.
3 Hatch Before Cool
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
January 06 2015 07:56 GMT
#2134
Yeah I actually just came back here to fix that. I thought the Nexus event was Melee as well, and kind of confirmed it in my mind seeing how long it ran last night. My bad! Just used to UBC events being Melee-centric, so I thought they'd do it as well.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 06 2015 16:06 GMT
#2135
Meh, if I had a car I would travel to events but for now I'm good with Netplay
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
-Kaiser-
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada932 Posts
January 06 2015 20:25 GMT
#2136
On January 06 2015 16:56 Cedstick wrote:
Yeah I actually just came back here to fix that. I thought the Nexus event was Melee as well, and kind of confirmed it in my mind seeing how long it ran last night. My bad! Just used to UBC events being Melee-centric, so I thought they'd do it as well.


This was run at UBC, but it was an entirely different group of people.

It ran late because the TO was new to running that sort of tournament by himself/didn't DQ some people who were holding it up.
3 Hatch Before Cool
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
January 07 2015 05:00 GMT
#2137
On January 07 2015 05:25 -Kaiser- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 16:56 Cedstick wrote:
Yeah I actually just came back here to fix that. I thought the Nexus event was Melee as well, and kind of confirmed it in my mind seeing how long it ran last night. My bad! Just used to UBC events being Melee-centric, so I thought they'd do it as well.


This was run at UBC, but it was an entirely different group of people.

It ran late because the TO was new to running that sort of tournament by himself/didn't DQ some people who were holding it up.

Yeah I know, I know the guys who did it I just wasn't clear on whether Melee would be a part of it.

Also, I refuse to cheer for HungryBox. Down with Puff! But really, cool to see the TL squad grow stronger.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
Pontius Pirate
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United States1557 Posts
January 07 2015 15:25 GMT
#2138
I'm not sure where I should take this question, but does the Curse merger mean LiquidHungrybox now?
"I had to close the door so my parents wouldn't judge me." - ZombieGrub during the ShitfaceTradeTV stream
Eti307
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Canada3442 Posts
January 07 2015 16:03 GMT
#2139
Yes, LiquidHBox and LiquidChillin
Iway
Profile Joined December 2011
France163 Posts
January 07 2015 17:29 GMT
#2140
only the best. I'm glad the liquid roster is growing
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