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OnceKing
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onlywonderboy
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On December 25 2014 10:45 Aveng3r wrote: I keep playing as falco against my brothers jigglypuff, and he keeps doing that stupid thing were he grabs me, tosses me up, and then jumps up and rest, which of course one shots me into oblivion. How do I prevent this? You can DI out of it but I don't remember which way to hold the sticks. | ||
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OnceKing
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]343[
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also don't get grabbed  | ||
Spazer
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BrTarolg
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That's why unexpected grabs are a lot more dangerous in general (vs a lot of instant grabbers, like fox also) | ||
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-Kaiser-
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EDIT: And adjust whatever you're doing that gets you so frequently grabbed. | ||
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Aveng3r
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Thanks for the replies | ||
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OnceKing
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Aveng3r
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On December 27 2014 04:27 OnceKing wrote: well it's right as he grabs you 'til he throws you but it's better to anticipate the grab and already be holding in that direction in case he throws immediately thanks, this is what I was looking for. I feel like im getting the timing down a little better but if he delays the throw he can usually bait me into a premature di attempt | ||
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Spazer
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On December 27 2014 12:19 Aveng3r wrote: thanks, this is what I was looking for. I feel like im getting the timing down a little better but if he delays the throw he can usually bait me into a premature di attempt You're not SDI-ing the throw, you're DI-ing it. You can't bait a premature di attempt by delaying a throw since you can just hold the control stick in one direction the entire time. The entire point of jiggs using upthrow instantly is to get the throw out before you can DI. Comboing rest out of upthrow is only really possible on spacies if they go straight up. Any time the jiggs spends "delaying" is time you can spend mashing out or setting the DI. The worst thing he can do is to mix up the throw direction (ie. back/forward throw), but anything's better than getting rested. | ||
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OnceKing
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pretty sure you can't SDI a throw so just hold dat direction when you anticipate. DI obviously applies if you're already holding it (think about how many people get cc dsmashed by peach, lots of times they were holding in cause they were trying to dash dance) | ||
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Nickemwit
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On December 27 2014 12:19 Aveng3r wrote: thanks, this is what I was looking for. I feel like im getting the timing down a little better but if he delays the throw he can usually bait me into a premature di attempt There's no such thing as a "premature DI attempt" Just hold the direction | ||
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adPEXtwinDoNG
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On December 28 2014 05:11 ShrieK wrote: There's no such thing as a "premature DI attempt" Just hold the direction If you prematurely hold a direction and the opponent mixes up the throw you can be screwed. Don't let the opponent condition you into DI'ing poorly. | ||
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OnceKing
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like you pretty much want to just DI all of falcon's shit out, up seems to work pretty good for me vs Peach, down on all of Marth's throws is good, etc. | ||
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Nickemwit
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On December 28 2014 19:57 adPEXtwinDoNG wrote: If you prematurely hold a direction and the opponent mixes up the throw you can be screwed. Don't let the opponent condition you into DI'ing poorly. Well, in this case, only uthrow and dthrow combo into rest, and dthrow has a century of startup time that you can react to. If you are at percents where fthrow or bthrow are gonna kill you, I don't think uthrow rest is an issue. | ||
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