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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10382 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 07:56:25
April 25 2012 07:49 GMT
#4181
@antiochus
Thanks
@Aeres
Thanks

Hey guys if you could help pl0x, I was wondering what you guys think these instruments are:
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What's the part playing the melody at 0:57-1:10? It plays the melody whenever the trumpet isn't. It sounds closest to piano but it doesn't sound like it. At least the trumpet sounds LIKE a trumpet.

Also the repetitive bouncy part, like at 0:05-0:07. It doesn't sound like anything Guitar??

If you listen to the MIDI version though, it sounds very different (and the instrumentation seems to change too...)
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For example, the high chord at the beginning in the original at 0:07 sounds like nothing really. Maybe flute. The same voice that plays this plays the high part at 0:53 as well and sounds a lot like a sort of flute. But in this MIDI, it sounds like a trumpet.


Thanks a LOT for any opinions!
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Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
April 25 2012 18:36 GMT
#4182
On April 25 2012 16:49 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
@antiochus
Thanks
@Aeres
Thanks

Hey guys if you could help pl0x, I was wondering what you guys think these instruments are:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYvvKyYIc5s


What's the part playing the melody at 0:57-1:10? It plays the melody whenever the trumpet isn't. It sounds closest to piano but it doesn't sound like it. At least the trumpet sounds LIKE a trumpet.

Also the repetitive bouncy part, like at 0:05-0:07. It doesn't sound like anything Guitar??

If you listen to the MIDI version though, it sounds very different (and the instrumentation seems to change too...)
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TbFAmWYZYw

For example, the high chord at the beginning in the original at 0:07 sounds like nothing really. Maybe flute. The same voice that plays this plays the high part at 0:53 as well and sounds a lot like a sort of flute. But in this MIDI, it sounds like a trumpet.


Thanks a LOT for any opinions!

Isn't it just a synthesizer? I know ZUN uses a program called Cubase SX to compose the Touhou games' music, and from what I've seen of the program, it looks like most of the possible sounds (well, the ones that would be similar to the ones you point out) can probably be done with either the synthesizer or the motion pads tool.

It's not like ZUN is using real instruments. He's just mimicking some of the sounds with Cubase.
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d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 22:54:11
April 25 2012 22:37 GMT
#4183
Cubase is [part of] a digital audio workstation (DAW)

whatever virtual instrument plugin (VST) he uses is used to voice the instruments

if you're going to try to arrange something for performance, stop and realize that ZUN doesn't think in terms of chamber music instruments and just does whatever he feels like el oh el

0:57 - the piano is probably doubled with a malleted instrument like a xylo; can't put my finger on it yet
0:07 - high note is a synth trumpet glissando (maybe a pad, I dunno); a flute glissando would sound too piercing
0:05 - the background accompaniment is a synth instrument - possibly an electric guitar as the base, but doesn't matter too much (EDIT: maybe a clavinet actually?)

instrumentation is something like:
percussion - basic drumkit, maybe extra stuff for brushes and other color
modified piano
trumpets
clavinet?
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10382 Posts
April 26 2012 02:59 GMT
#4184
Oh, thanks a lot guys! Darn ZUN, why does he always make things so difficult for the fans kekek xD


Yeah I'm trying to arrange it, and deciding between something like

Trumpet
Flute
Clarinet
Trombone
Saxophone
(weird instrumentation I know)

or
Trumpet
Flute
Clarinet
Violin
Bass Guitar
Saxophone

or

Keyboard
Bass Guitar
Electric Guitar
[Electric?] Violin

xD
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d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
April 26 2012 03:56 GMT
#4185
how do you plan on covering all of the rhythmic parts without a piano or percussion?
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10382 Posts
April 26 2012 04:52 GMT
#4186
On April 26 2012 12:56 d3_crescentia wrote:
how do you plan on covering all of the rhythmic parts without a piano or percussion?


Guess we're just not gonna xD. We're gonna cover the bouncy baseline though, I think that should be enough. (Either with bass guitar, keyboard/piano, or trombone)
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BluePotion
Profile Joined October 2011
Indonesia35 Posts
April 26 2012 08:44 GMT
#4187
Touhou Trading Card Game. The official cards (with the dummy one) :D
In closed Beta Testing phase now
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SC2 noob, sorry if I dont understand a lot of thing
FakeDouble
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia676 Posts
April 26 2012 09:22 GMT
#4188
On April 26 2012 17:44 BluePotion wrote:
Touhou Trading Card Game. The official cards (with the dummy one) :D
In closed Beta Testing phase now
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Thanks for the progress update, looks really nice!
Formerly known as carbonaceous
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 09:54:55
April 26 2012 09:37 GMT
#4189
symposium of post-mysticism got leakeddddd

I am scrounging for scans >_>_>_>____>

EDIT: select images

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now caller, do your magical moonrune translation
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
April 26 2012 11:23 GMT
#4190
Too lazy

Who did the drawings this art is too good to be zuns
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FakeDouble
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia676 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 12:05:58
April 26 2012 12:03 GMT
#4191
On April 26 2012 20:23 Caller wrote:
Too lazy

Who did the drawings this art is too good to be zuns


How dare you! ZUN art is best art!

Edit: Satori has elbows? O.o no way~
Formerly known as carbonaceous
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
April 26 2012 13:49 GMT
#4192
God, I know I've posted this here before, but I'm so in love with this song. C-CLAYS doesn't have outstanding songs all the time, but when they do, they're fucking OUTSTANDING. <3

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The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 15:10:19
April 26 2012 15:07 GMT
#4193
You know, I had a dream where the Touhou Discussion Thread got moved to like off-topic section/Spammers Bin...

Almost a nightmare

And Satori too short :<

edit: and nice song Aeres
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
April 26 2012 15:28 GMT
#4194
satori looks the right height to me, about the height of a fifth grader

huehue
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JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 01:10:35
April 27 2012 00:56 GMT
#4195
lol Caller

Song of Night Sparrow
=NeutraL=
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Plain Asia
=NeutraL=
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dat violin

Dream Battle
領域ZERO
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"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
April 27 2012 01:31 GMT
#4196
On April 27 2012 00:07 JSH wrote:
You know, I had a dream where the Touhou Discussion Thread got moved to like off-topic section/Spammers Bin...

Almost a nightmare

...

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The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10382 Posts
April 27 2012 01:51 GMT
#4197
Wow so many posts!

Hmm the new game is Touhou 14 or 13.x? Cus it has a lot of old characters?

Also, ZUN is actually good at drawing. There's an interview subbed in spanish posted here a bit back showing him draw in real time. Though the drawings above look to be digital, so they are probably drawn by someone else kekek.
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
April 27 2012 01:52 GMT
#4198
So I wanna ask you guys here something here. My sister has some vocaloid CDs that she got from conventions in Japan that are not in their shrink wrap. She wants to know if she had touhou CDs like that, would people buy them or not.

I told her people won't, but she wants other people's opinions so
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
April 27 2012 01:53 GMT
#4199
Eh? New game? Where did you hear that from?
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
April 27 2012 02:02 GMT
#4200
keeping in line with aeres' previous post:


no new game yoshi just confused that the new book = a game, even though it doesn't lawl

tell ur sister to get her shit together
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