EPTOnce better BW pros transfer (and keep a rigorous training schedule!) we'll see better gameplay, but really, I just compare it to the early days of BW; back when people didn't even use their hotkeys.
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goiflin
Canada1220 Posts
Once better BW pros transfer (and keep a rigorous training schedule!) we'll see better gameplay, but really, I just compare it to the early days of BW; back when people didn't even use their hotkeys. | ||
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On May 12 2011 20:05 xtfftc wrote: Does anyone honestly disagree that the competition in SC2 is still rubbish? I just hope that the hype generated by the large prize pools lasts for long enough so that the general audience is still interested in the game when it finally becomes interesting. I disagree. I find it extremely fun and some matches are just nerdgasmic. I don't share your opinion and i'm pretty sure alot of people agree with me. I too want better games but i think the game is already interesting as it has gone from one base all ins to long epic matches in less than a year. | ||
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TheButtonmen
Canada1405 Posts
On May 12 2011 20:05 xtfftc wrote: Does anyone honestly disagree that the competition in SC2 is still rubbish? Yes. | ||
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Yts
Sweden79 Posts
Initially I was hoping to see Effort in SC2 but hes back to BW. I guess the BW world can spare a few A-class players though. So SC2 gets more entertaining to watch. Tyson, Hyun, Hydra, Shine... finding it hard to figure out and terran players I want rid off, guess SC2 can have Lomo and Canata ;D | ||
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Deleted User 45971
533 Posts
On May 12 2011 20:05 xtfftc wrote: Does anyone honestly disagree that the competition in SC2 is still rubbish? I just hope that the hype generated by the large prize pools lasts for long enough so that the general audience is still interested in the game when it finally becomes interesting. I honestly disagree, the current players play for at least 8h per day and they try very hard and dedicates their entire life to the game. And there are hundreds full time and thousand semi-competitive that go to school/work that still dedicate themselves. They all focus on winning. There is way more serious competition in SC2 compared to pretty much every game out there except for BW. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34510 Posts
I wouldn't go as far as to say current SC2 competitions are farces, but I definitely see your point that the best-of-the-best are still yet to come. Which is a good thing! :D | ||
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Eeevil
Netherlands359 Posts
No matter what kind of speculation. If current BW pros are so much better at a game they're not even playing right now they shall just have to prove it, you know, in the real world. This is nothing but sentimental blabber with some stats thrown in to make it look more factual. The elephant is a lie. | ||
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Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3339 Posts
 thank you~!Man.. but I'd be really sad if Flash or Jaedong switched to SC2 right now... I still enjoy watching BW so so so so soooo much~ Thanks for the write up again~ | ||
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Popss
Sweden176 Posts
Right now we doubt if the best players today really will be the best players in the future knowing that such extremely talented players still stick to BW. The issue is doubt and until BW dies and all progamers make the switch to SC2 that doubt will always exist. | ||
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Synwave
United States2803 Posts
On May 12 2011 19:54 Cedstick wrote: The wording the OP used to get the reaction he wanted was a little strong, I agree, which ended-up leading to emotional responses rather than raising discussion about the issue at hand, but what we see is just that: a slew of emotional responses automatically adjusted to defend SC2, without realizing what it is the OP is trying to get across. It's funny how one or two bolded statements can blind people so much. It's called editing for emphasis. Ironic that a "Final Edit" would be edited for emphasis in this fashion? I don't think so. If that is the case and you are correct then the failure lies with the author, not with the majority of the reader base...and please dont counter with "but they are just sc2 kids" A number of respected intelligent posters who are well known BW fans have replied regarding the tone of the article. For myself I am a BW fan that became a fan of SC2 also. | ||
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Tschis
Brazil1511 Posts
Why is it a facepalm moment? I thought it was your own point to say that Flash would own within some weeks. | ||
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cactuschewer
United Kingdom152 Posts
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Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
On May 12 2011 20:18 cactuschewer wrote: I don't understand the point of posts like these, they're extremely disheartening and counter-productive, they make it seem like everyone who watches and plays SC2 is wasting their time because the best of the best in BW could switch over and absolutely smash everyone, they just choose not to because they don't need to. Thats true enough. I feel 100% that everyone here watching sc2 would be 30x more satisfied with their game watching if they started watching and learning broodwar | ||
zatic
Zurich15366 Posts
I haven't touched BW in 1 1/2 years. I don't watch the streams anymore, I watch the occasional VOD. I couldn't tell you who is in what league or even just who is doing well. I play SC2 whenever I can, follow every tournament, moderate the SC2 section of the site. I know many SC2 players personally, I go to live SC2 events whenever I have the opportunity. I am part of the SC2 community probably more than most people here. Still I see no reason whatsover to get riled up over this article. Why can't you people just relax? There is nothing offensive in the OP to get angry about. | ||
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Mailing
United States3087 Posts
On May 12 2011 20:19 Kiante wrote: Thats true enough. I feel 100% that everyone here watching sc2 would be 30x more satisfied with their game watching if they started watching and learning broodwar If this was the case, brood war would of never lost it's popularity. People move on, times change, graphics improve. | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On May 12 2011 20:20 zatic wrote: I don't get why people get so angry and see this as an attack on SC2 or even "the entire SC2 community" as someone in this thread puts it. I haven't touched BW in 1 1/2 years. I don't watch the streams anymore, I watch the occasional VOD. I couldn't tell you who is in what league or even just who is doing well. I play SC2 whenever I can, follow every tournament, moderate the SC2 section of the site. I know many SC2 players personally, I go to live SC2 events whenever I have the opportunity. I am part of the SC2 community probably more than most people here. Still I see no reason whatsover to get riled up over this article. Why can't you people just relax? There is nothing offensive in the OP to get angry about. I follow BW closely, I follow SC2 marginally(Occasional GSL VODs), I can understand why someone is offended by this, you are not offended because you know what BW is , inherent, the mechanics, the scene etc. Even if you don't follow it closely anymore you know it, Alot of SC2 people here don't and it is not suprising that they are offended when they read that the SC2 competition is a farce. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
Competition in 2001 a farce; Boxer not worthy of being labelled a bonjwa TSL 1-2: a waste of everyone's time Ideally, the future will always bring better players and thus better competition. It does in no way cheapen what we currently have. Indeed, if BW maintains remains popular, in a few years similar claims could be made about Flash. | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
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Garnet
Vietnam9056 Posts
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Raysalis
Malaysia1034 Posts
Although in my opinion, only the S class and very very top A class broodwar players are likely to do well in SC2. All the other average/ below average A class BW pros will have a large chunk of their advantage nullify in SC2 with the easier mechanics and in the current state of SC2, its more important to be a smart and intelligent players when all builds/ timings/ etc has not completely figure out yet. Probably only the `smarter´ BW pros will have the potential to dominate while the `robots´can maybe do well but can also bomb out badly. I am expecting most of the current top sc2 players to still be at the top. | ||
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