EPTalso, instead of saying "run time: 2 minutes" when anyone can clearly see how long the video, how about saying indicating how long it actually took?
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useLess
United States4781 Posts
also, instead of saying "run time: 2 minutes" when anyone can clearly see how long the video, how about saying indicating how long it actually took? | ||
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
EDIT: Useless just beat me to it, lol. Nah, but seriously I'm interested because I'm willing to pay for a few movie poster ones to frame around the house. Another question: Do you use other methods as well? i.e. pastels? | ||
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Ozarugold
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Glider
United States1353 Posts
On July 10 2008 12:17 Instigata wrote: Great work, but slightly off topic, I always wondered what do you get when you get more views on youtube? Do you get some privelages or something? for the most part.. no, only reward is knowing your video and work is appreciated by many people, which can be such an energy booster. you can get special status and previlage when you have tens and thousands of subscribers. youtube partners for example. On July 10 2008 12:17 useLess wrote: niiice. also, instead of saying "run time: 2 minutes" when anyone can clearly see how long the video, how about saying indicating how long it actually took? Great suggestion! I didn't think anyone cared about how long it took me draw, that they would only care about how long they have to spend their time watching it. Thats why i put the running time there. A 2 min, 3 min text let ppl know right off the bat that the video is going to be short so they may actually sit through it. People have no patience now days, as more people subscribe to my channel I'll probably get rid of that. Another reason i put the run time there is that the video length show at bottom is not always the real length of watchable clip. Sometimes I have to add extra blank time at the end to ensure the video length is long enough to meet the requirement for "watch this vid in high quality". If you look at my Joker vid, cuz it is only 2min long, there is no high quality option for viewers, even tho it should. But to quickly answer the question, based from memory the sea one took me around 2 - 2.5 hours. the joker around 1 and half hours, alba about 2 to 3, batman is longest thus far, probably 3 to 4 hours, maybe slightly longer. | ||
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Trainninja
Australia105 Posts
How long have you been doing doing portraits and have gone through any professional training? | ||
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
Oh and i notice you rarely use a paper to not touch the drawing surface, only when you dont want to drag already colored areas huh? My advice is to never ever touch the drawing surface, your hands naturally transmit their oil which can become very noticeable when you blend the color, it may ruin your drawing. | ||
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Deleted User 30223
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or maybe one of his ACE salutes? | ||
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LibertyTerran
Vietnam711 Posts
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aRod
United States758 Posts
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Glider
United States1353 Posts
On July 10 2008 12:58 Cloud wrote: Pretty nice, i also draw with pencils though im more inclined to push my drawings to near realism, so ill usually take 20+ hours on a simple drawing. You do have a very nice technique for tone drawing, not so much detail but your work is so easy to understand, there are not many eye distractors and its easily recognizable, quality work. Oh and i notice you rarely use a paper to not touch the drawing surface, only when you don't want to drag already colored areas huh? My advice is to never ever touch the drawing surface, your hands naturally transmit their oil which can become very noticeable when you blend the color, it may ruin your drawing. Thanks for the tip! that is an excellent point. I know some ppl who does realism drawings, they are not exactly my thing. Mostly because realism artists often use some kind of measuring tool or grid, working the picture small section at a time, spending tremendous amount of time in the process. I bow to their patience and skill. I may do another one of those some day. But my feeling is that a lot of those guys become dependent on grids and measuring aids, also their drawing becomes highly mechanical. two great work from two different realism artists would look exactly the same. you might as well take a photograph. Also a lot of realism artist can't sit some one down and draw a portrait right there, while someone who can draw portrait can spend 30 hours to produce a near realistic picture if need be. That's why I focused on free hand portrait drawings, it is so much faster, really trains perception to see and draw without aid and allow more freedom for creativity, style and personality. I always use the source image as a reference, changing the shading and lighting as I see fit. What I want to eventually accomplish to is to be able to draw without even a source picture, to draw a face with just what is in mind, but that's way beyond me for now. Still, this one guy i know draw a picture of a glass of water with over 50 hours??!! He pretty much had a photograph at the end. Awesome display of patience and attention to detail. | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
Oh yeah, awesome drawings. I envy you for life! | ||
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Glider
United States1353 Posts
On July 10 2008 13:52 nemY wrote: So are you saying it is possible for any average joe with 0 artistic ability to be able to draw like you just did? One could only hope so! Oh yeah, awesome drawings. I envy you for life! It is my FIRM belief that I can get anyone to near my level within months, too bad none of my friends believe me enough to let me teach them, they just think it's impossible. | ||
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toopham
United States551 Posts
record his reaction(i.e record what he type out on bnet or something) and show it to us? I think we all want what he think of it. =) | ||
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Chuiu
3470 Posts
On July 10 2008 11:12 Glider wrote: If i can get some more good boxer pics, that would be great. Best one I can think of: ![[image loading]](http://boxerforever.com/images/img_instudio4.jpg) | ||
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Equinox_kr
United States7395 Posts
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
On July 10 2008 13:50 Glider wrote: Thanks for the tip! that is an excellent point. I know some ppl who does realism drawings, they are not exactly my thing. Mostly because realism artists often use some kind of measuring tool or grid, working the picture small section at a time, spending tremendous amount of time in the process. I bow to their patience and skill. I may do another one of those some day. But my feeling is that a lot of those guys become dependent on grids and measuring aids, also their drawing becomes highly mechanical. two great work from two different realism artists would look exactly the same. you might as well take a photograph. Also a lot of realism artist can't sit some one down and draw a portrait right there, while someone who can draw portrait can spend 30 hours to produce a near realistic picture if need be. That's why I focused on free hand portrait drawings, it is so much faster, really trains perception to see and draw without aid and allow more freedom for creativity, style and personality. I always use the source image as a reference, changing the shading and lighting as I see fit. What I want to eventually accomplish to is to be able to draw without even a source picture, to draw a face with just what is in mind, but that's way beyond me for now. Still, this one guy i know draw a picture of a glass of water with over 50 hours??!! He pretty much had a photograph at the end. Awesome display of patience and attention to detail. I know exactly what you mean, and its exactly what i try to avoid, i despise using grids and the only measuring aides i use is my own pencil and fingers (the thumb most notably). But its also a gross misunderstanding that most people have about realistic drawing (at least my own kind of realistic drawing), or even tone drawing like yours. With my own favorite artists for instance, you will always find that they used way more than a single source for any of their drawings, and they merge them all in a completely realistic setting. Even if you find someone using a single photograph as a basis, you will always find significant differences between the drawing and the photo, its not a simple xerox, the drawing is completely theirs, the textures, tones, the focus of the picture are different. For example, the grass is different, they cant possibly focus on drawing every single blade of grass, even if they have the technique, it kills the realism as the human eye cant possibly perceive all that detail. Instead they creatively draw suggestions that fools the eye into thinking theres detail when there really isnt. Materials and technique are also much broader than with other styles, a single grade of graphite will not cut it, just as chamois as a blending tool gives different results than say, kitchen paper or velvet. And there lies what i like most about realistic drawing, the creativity and ingeniousity you have to place to realistically depict a texture, or to realistically merge 2 different settings, its impossible for most of us to draw every line of hair and as i mentioned, doing so may even kill the realism. About what you said, drawing almost realistically even without a source.. hmm well i really dunno, thats probably a whole different skill, i dont even know if its humanly possible, your imagination can only do so much, id say you just focus in giving your drawings life, focus on not just replicating a photo or whatever as you said (although of course, everyone starts like that and it develops technique), a drawing can tell a whole story if you put enough of your artistic and creative self on it. Anyway, i dont even know why im talking about that, dont think im trying to convince you to draw in the same style as me, you can draw cartoons and still have a message as powerful as any realistic drawing. Also uh, have you tried clutch pencils? or mechanical pencils, lead holders i dont know how the hell you call them, i prefer them over the uh, normal i guess, pencils that you use, as they dont change in weight, they dont change in shape, they dont make you lose concentration over sharpening them, the point of the lead you want is easily attainable and they dont produce garbage. Theres no mechanical substite for charcoal pencils though i think, if you really use them that much i guess youre stuck with them  , graphite ones though id recommend using mechanical ones as i feel they give better control.//rant | ||
LosingID8
CA10828 Posts
On July 10 2008 14:01 toopham wrote: Can we have the TL.net Staff present this to Sea.. record his reaction(i.e record what he type out on bnet or something) and show it to us? I think we all want what he think of it. =) i already showed it to him over bnet/msn he was really really impressed | ||
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Glider
United States1353 Posts
So true, so true. Right now I'm just using regular charcoal black (hard, soft, medium), i really don't have that much experience with art tools as i'm still pretty new. As you can see my focus is on working the whole image and gradually building detail and layers over the whole image, this is also fun to watch in the video. Most of my work are pretty big (18x24 alot them), draw that with mechanical pencils would be murder, but i know they are amazing at consistency, can allow the artist to focus on extreme detail and tone. I'll try to use one to draw something in the near future. as for drawing from no source... check this out. http://bp1.blogger.com/_pbZw476tEsE/Rz0E0G9udoI/AAAAAAAAAgA/tLq4Ro0DW2w/s1600-h/mark-value_page.jpg and http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/287/2379/1600/clark-value_page.3.jpg Those requires such a understanding of shadow and light it just blows my mind. | ||
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Narrator
United States868 Posts
Who's going to show the portrait to BoxeR? I nominate nevergg! =D | ||
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