EPT[Interview] sAviOr after the TvZ game VS GoRush - Page 3
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
On May 28 2007 15:03 davidgurt wrote: I know..., what do you think I did before making my post? I'm just saying we cannot be 100% sure ourselves, but Savior probably watched the replay and saw what we just described with the lair being started before the 3rd hatchery was dropped.I am quite sure he went lair immediately before putting down his 3rd hatch. I just checked the VOD, but they show the hatch building, and then the lair morphing. | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On May 28 2007 16:18 fusionsdf wrote: I really do not like the look of tvz on desperado But look at the MSL Group B Winner (GoRush) interview: GoRush - "On this map [Desperado] I could beat our teams online practice partners when I used terran. That is how good it is for terran." And he thumbed Desperado down to play ZvT against Sea[Shield], preferring to play Monty Hall, Loki, and Python instead. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On May 28 2007 04:24 himurakenshin wrote: you sir are clearly knowledged in this subjectman why are you always saying this? Savior didn't do anything in that game, you know it. He built marines, medics tanks and sci vessels. Any terran would do that. Infact half of the game he is running around with no medics. How can you say his tvz is top class? Progaming is based on extreme subtleties which seperate gosu's from chobo's and savior looked chobo in that game. I think because you are a big savior fan, it is clouding your vision. | ||
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Tensai176
Canada2061 Posts
On May 27 2007 21:19 SeBASTa wrote: I think next time savior should practice his T against himself Lol nice | ||
Last Romantic
United States20667 Posts
GoRush chose MONTY HALL [no wins in ProLeague for ZvT, and precious few in individual leagues] over Desperado. Er... | ||
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
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Last Romantic
United States20667 Posts
Jaedong beat NaDa on the map. But that was such a cheesy game from NaDa - I mean, mass valks? That almost never works -_______-;; | ||
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Blacklizard
United States1194 Posts
I imagine GoRush says this is a Terran map (in TvZ at least) because- 1. Split minerals + 2 gas + mineral only free expo= Terran gets 2.5 mineral and 2 gas quicker and safer than on a typical map. I call it 2.5 minerals because Terran can use a lower SCV count at main due to split minerals and doesn't need to waste time with a float for natural expo (see #2). Zerg typically will have lower drone count anway, so the split doesn't benefit them as much. 2. Choke point + free mineral only expo: Terran is in OK shape with a choke not near base. Zerg likes to use 2nd hatch as choke for Sunkens. So the 2nd gas at main isn't as big a deal to Zerg (UNLESS the Zerg goes for another start spot) since it's just the equivalent to a normal map's income for zerg or worse b/c the goofy choke. I'll call it 1.75 mineral and 2 gas for zerg if he wants sunkens at choke b/c he has to waste a hatch there. --- I don't have the VOD in front of me now, did GoRush put his 2nd hatch at choke and Sunken before the 3rd hatch?--- 3. Island float for Terran's 3rd expo if lazy. 4. If Terran gets another main... Terran could have equivalent to 5 or 6 mineral + 4 gas. What more can a Terran ask for? 5. It's space platform terrain! Always looks anti-zerg when I see it.  Savior was thinkin' like, "Macro is the only way to win vs a serious opponent. If it was me (Savior) playing Zerg, I'd take my mineral only safely to stay on par with Terran. Trying to get another main too quickly is too nutty, and that's why I'll try Terran cuz it feels safer on this map. Plus, what in the world would ZvZ be with 1 hatch dual gas?" GoRush was like... A+B+C=only good way to beat Terran is get another start spot and go Muta crazy. Not gonna beat Terran on ground on this map. AKA screw the mineral war cuz Terran would win. The queen vs CC was just icing, I thought. Next Terran vs Zerg is going to build 2 bunkers by main... mark my words.  I really like Savior, but he over-analyzed this one methinks. GoRush had a simple clear logical path to attend to on this map that Savior missed because of some assumptions and his personal feelings about Zerg on this map. Anyway, still early to see how this map develops and therefore this is all just speculation... but this game certainly made the map interesting to keep an eye on. | ||
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Naib
Hungary4952 Posts
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
I'm sure that's what Savior was thinking too. But getting ahead of myself, I think GR will have wonders planned on Monty Hall, in all seriousness. | ||
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LuMiX
China5758 Posts
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skindzer
Chile5114 Posts
Rest of your games were flawless. >To be honest, I didn't really mind about Python and Monty Hall. I could barely practice. I only thought about today's match against Tae Min. . What a monster... | ||
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