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[Interview] sAviOr after the TvZ game VS GoRush - Page 2

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Organ
Profile Joined September 2006
Russian Federation987 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-27 15:29:38
May 27 2007 15:25 GMT
#21
nvm
Kage
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
India788 Posts
May 27 2007 15:55 GMT
#22
Thanks for the interview link ! Was a nice read, and if someone could explain how 2 hatch is better than what is usually done (would be cool lol cause im noob to the sc strat thing)
kewlsunman
Profile Joined May 2004
United States131 Posts
May 27 2007 16:50 GMT
#23
On May 28 2007 00:23 ktp wrote:
What was so significant about GoRush's 2 hatch build other than the fact that it threw Savior off? Was Savior anticipating a 3 hatch build so much that he was unable to adapt? I guess I'm asking why the 2 hatch build was a better choice for GoRush as oppose to 3 hatch...


It was faster. Gorush was able to secure a second main with two lurkers atop ramp before Savior could do anything about it. And on Desperado, that means he had 4 gas going into his muta pump with only the need for two lurkers in the early mid-game to stop Savior from destroying his expo. From there, he could basically control the entire game.

Personally I agree with Savior. I think the game demonstrated more of an intelligent strategy with perfect execution by Gorush, rather than any incompetence on Savior's part. I think he's evaluated the situation correct. From this one game, I really don't think he should be discouraged and consider it a one-sided rape.
Storchen
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden4385 Posts
May 27 2007 17:15 GMT
#24
Nice interview ty.

He's not giving up! Keep that spirit up!
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
May 27 2007 18:55 GMT
#25
I hope Stork rapes him. Big time.
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himurakenshin
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1845 Posts
May 27 2007 19:24 GMT
#26
On May 27 2007 20:35 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2007 19:53 LastRomantic wrote:
What the hell? Going up against GoRush, you use those practice partners, and still hope to win?

~~


he's savior it doesn't matter as much as you think it does

if gorush had done a 3hatch build savior would have wrecked him by the looks of the game itself

man why are you always saying this? Savior didn't do anything in that game, you know it. He built marines, medics tanks and sci vessels. Any terran would do that. Infact half of the game he is running around with no medics. How can you say his tvz is top class? Progaming is based on extreme subtleties which seperate gosu's from chobo's and savior looked chobo in that game. I think because you are a big savior fan, it is clouding your vision.
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
May 27 2007 19:56 GMT
#27
On May 28 2007 04:24 himurakenshin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2007 20:35 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On May 27 2007 19:53 LastRomantic wrote:
What the hell? Going up against GoRush, you use those practice partners, and still hope to win?

~~


he's savior it doesn't matter as much as you think it does

if gorush had done a 3hatch build savior would have wrecked him by the looks of the game itself

man why are you always saying this? Savior didn't do anything in that game, you know it. He built marines, medics tanks and sci vessels. Any terran would do that. Infact half of the game he is running around with no medics. How can you say his tvz is top class? Progaming is based on extreme subtleties which seperate gosu's from chobo's and savior looked chobo in that game. I think because you are a big savior fan, it is clouding your vision.


It's obvious why savior was running with no meds if you watched the game at all. Nada wouldn't have had medics in that situation either.
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Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6106 Posts
May 27 2007 21:41 GMT
#28
thanks for interview.

why does one of the few protoss left have to face savior?

#1 Terran hater
Arget
Profile Joined May 2007
United States87 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-27 22:11:43
May 27 2007 22:11 GMT
#29
I hope Stork gets owned. Big time
sAviOr fan!
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
May 27 2007 22:34 GMT
#30
On May 27 2007 19:46 CapO wrote:
-16강에서 송병구와 붙는다.
▶프로토스전을 한지가 정말 오래됐다. 준비를 많이 해야할 것 같다. 송병구를 상대로는 종족을 바꾼다는 생각을 해본적이 없다. 아직은 메카닉보다 바이오닉이 재미있고 자신있다.

-You are going to face Song, Byung Goo Stork.
>It's been a long time since I played vs Protoss. I'm gonna have to practice a lot for it. I didn't think about switching race against Song, Byung Goo. I'm more confident and happy with bionic than mechanic.



Poor Jangbi. Savior played vs Protoss just before this interview and completely forgot all about his insignificant opponent.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
May 27 2007 23:36 GMT
#31
On May 27 2007 19:53 LastRomantic wrote:
What the hell? Going up against GoRush, you use those practice partners, and still hope to win?

~~

Uh, those are amazing practice partners...
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intotherainx
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States504 Posts
May 27 2007 23:58 GMT
#32
On May 28 2007 01:50 kewlsunman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2007 00:23 ktp wrote:
What was so significant about GoRush's 2 hatch build other than the fact that it threw Savior off? Was Savior anticipating a 3 hatch build so much that he was unable to adapt? I guess I'm asking why the 2 hatch build was a better choice for GoRush as oppose to 3 hatch...


It was faster. Gorush was able to secure a second main with two lurkers atop ramp before Savior could do anything about it. And on Desperado, that means he had 4 gas going into his muta pump with only the need for two lurkers in the early mid-game to stop Savior from destroying his expo. From there, he could basically control the entire game.

Personally I agree with Savior. I think the game demonstrated more of an intelligent strategy with perfect execution by Gorush, rather than any incompetence on Savior's part. I think he's evaluated the situation correct. From this one game, I really don't think he should be discouraged and consider it a one-sided rape.


yes, seeing those 4 gases go up made me angry, and i'm not even a savior fan...
davidgurt
Profile Joined September 2006
United States1355 Posts
May 28 2007 00:37 GMT
#33
Okay, I just finished watching the game. Let me express my feelings:

LAWL FAG JAE GOT GANKED 111!!!1111 HAHAHAHAHA I CAN'T WAIT FOR MORE

That is all.
There's crashing?
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
May 28 2007 01:18 GMT
#34
On May 28 2007 07:34 The Storyteller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2007 19:46 CapO wrote:
-16강에서 송병구와 붙는다.
▶프로토스전을 한지가 정말 오래됐다. 준비를 많이 해야할 것 같다. 송병구를 상대로는 종족을 바꾼다는 생각을 해본적이 없다. 아직은 메카닉보다 바이오닉이 재미있고 자신있다.

-You are going to face Song, Byung Goo Stork.
>It's been a long time since I played vs Protoss. I'm gonna have to practice a lot for it. I didn't think about switching race against Song, Byung Goo. I'm more confident and happy with bionic than mechanic.



Poor Jangbi. Savior played vs Protoss just before this interview and completely forgot all about his insignificant opponent.



Hahahahhahahaha OMG I didn't even notice at all. I completely forgot about Jangbi as well. Wow Savior is totally insulting him without even noticing.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
May 28 2007 02:34 GMT
#35
no it was a 3 hatch, its just that hatch was hidden and it was alittle late.


gorush 3-0ed him rgith
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
May 28 2007 03:02 GMT
#36
There's no way to tell 100%, because the screen isn't centered on it at the right time, but I would guess that Gorush started morphing his hatchery at the natural into a lair before he started the expansion at the bottom right main, hence 2 hatch strat (tech started with 2 hatches).
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davidgurt
Profile Joined September 2006
United States1355 Posts
May 28 2007 06:03 GMT
#37
On May 28 2007 12:02 Carnac wrote:
There's no way to tell 100%, because the screen isn't centered on it at the right time, but I would guess that Gorush started morphing his hatchery at the natural into a lair before he started the expansion at the bottom right main, hence 2 hatch strat (tech started with 2 hatches).


I am quite sure he went lair immediately before putting down his 3rd hatch. I just checked the VOD, but they show the hatch building, and then the lair morphing.
There's crashing?
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
May 28 2007 06:39 GMT
#38
On May 28 2007 07:34 The Storyteller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2007 19:46 CapO wrote:
-16강에서 송병구와 붙는다.
▶프로토스전을 한지가 정말 오래됐다. 준비를 많이 해야할 것 같다. 송병구를 상대로는 종족을 바꾼다는 생각을 해본적이 없다. 아직은 메카닉보다 바이오닉이 재미있고 자신있다.

-You are going to face Song, Byung Goo Stork.
>It's been a long time since I played vs Protoss. I'm gonna have to practice a lot for it. I didn't think about switching race against Song, Byung Goo. I'm more confident and happy with bionic than mechanic.



Poor Jangbi. Savior played vs Protoss just before this interview and completely forgot all about his insignificant opponent.


my god, Jangbi must feel like shit after that. Another kids dreams are promptly crushed by the fascist that is Matler! -_-/
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-28 06:57:55
May 28 2007 06:48 GMT
#39
SaviorGoRush ( edit: thx below -_-;; ) was mining gas for 40 seconds prior to morphing his 3rd hatchery, starting to mine gas a few seconds after the Spawning Pool finished. I'm pretty sure it was Lair first--he didn't make creep colonies prior to making the 3rd hatchery, so that's why the hatch could be relatively early.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
May 28 2007 06:54 GMT
#40
On May 28 2007 15:48 Myrmidon wrote:
Savior was mining gas for 40 seconds prior to morphing his 3rd hatchery, starting to mine gas a few seconds after the Spawning Pool finished. I'm pretty sure it was Lair first--he didn't make creep colonies prior to making the 3rd hatchery, so that's why the hatch could be relatively early.


Savior was the Terran. Force of habit, eh?
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