On June 30 2012 03:02 Incognoto wrote: I'm an Idra fan but I try to remain as objective as possible. Do you really think that Avilo's points were actually good? I watched the debate and all I could hear was Avilo saying "thanks to the Queen buff, Z can now drone to 80 drones and win with eco-heavy tech switches, T can't pressure Z without all-in'ing". To which I'm pretty sure I heard Idra respond "The old builds don't work anymore, Terrans need to find new pressure builds and it's already been done in Korea". Idra's ad hominem was that Avilo simply wasn't playing the match up correctly.
Evidently, Idra's terms were colorful than the ones I used, but that's basically how I read the debate. Believe me, I'm trying to be civil and objective here. I'm presenting my point of view on the matter and I'd be quite interested to hear what people here truly think when they say Avilo 1 - Idra 0. I don't have anything against Avilo, though I am a bit curious, that's all.
Idra is a complete moron, saying things like "go fast 3cc and put on pressure at the same time" and basically saying that Terran can keep up with Zerg techswitches, which is just bullshit.
Avilo made some great points, like how Terran needs to make the PERFECT army composition based on what he sees to survive, and once the fight is over there's no way of knowing if it's gonna be followed up by 200 food ground or 200 food air. Meanwhile Zerg doesn't have to even consider what his opponent has, because infestors are alway good, broodlords are always good etc. etc. And since Terran needs actual buildings to produce units there's no way to have the tech-switch capabilities that Zerg does, not to mention the Terran bank will always be a lot smaller.
And yeah, Idra calling anyone terrible is just hilarious. Talk about throwing rocks in glass houses. I lost what little respect I had for Idra after that 'debate'. He's so clueless, terrible, and bad mannered. If only his fame-to-skill ratio wasn't so skewed he would be long gone and forgotten by now.
On June 30 2012 03:02 Incognoto wrote: I'm an Idra fan but I try to remain as objective as possible. Do you really think that Avilo's points were actually good? I watched the debate and all I could hear was Avilo saying "thanks to the Queen buff, Z can now drone to 80 drones and win with eco-heavy tech switches, T can't pressure Z without all-in'ing". To which I'm pretty sure I heard Idra respond "The old builds don't work anymore, Terrans need to find new pressure builds and it's already been done in Korea". Idra's ad hominem was that Avilo simply wasn't playing the match up correctly.
Evidently, Idra's terms were colorful than the ones I used, but that's basically how I read the debate. Believe me, I'm trying to be civil and objective here. I'm presenting my point of view on the matter and I'd be quite interested to hear what people here truly think when they say Avilo 1 - Idra 0. I don't have anything against Avilo, though I am a bit curious, that's all.
Idra is a complete moron, saying things like "go fast 3cc and put on pressure at the same time" and basically saying that Terran can keep up with Zerg techswitches, which is just bullshit.
Avilo made some great points, like how Terran needs to make the PERFECT army composition based on what he sees to survive, and once the fight is over there's no way of knowing if it's gonna be followed up by 200 food ground or 200 food air. Meanwhile Zerg doesn't have to even consider what his opponent has, because infestors are alway good, broodlords are always good etc. etc. And since Terran needs actual buildings to produce units there's no way to have the tech-switch capabilities that Zerg does, not to mention the Terran bank will always be a lot smaller.
And yeah, Idra calling anyone terrible is just hilarious. Talk about throwing rocks in glass houses. I lost what little respect I had for Idra after that 'debate'. He's so clueless, terrible, and bad mannered. If only his fame-to-skill ratio wasn't so skewed he would be long gone and forgotten by now.
I'd say that fame to skill ratio skewering goes for every professional player on there. + Show Spoiler +
wooow I just lost allot of respect for the people on SOTG.Avilo was being mannerd and idra just reacts like a litle spoiled kid, this is getting kinda sad.
On June 30 2012 04:06 saMas wrote: wooow I just lost allot of respect for the people on SOTG.Avilo was being mannerd and idra just reacts like a litle spoiled kid, this is getting kinda sad.
On June 30 2012 04:06 saMas wrote: wooow I just lost allot of respect for the people on SOTG.Avilo was being mannerd and idra just reacts like a litle spoiled kid, this is getting kinda sad.
Interrupting Idra several times was bad mannered, also his points were random thougths "oh hey did u see fitzyhares build?". Idras arguments were just ten times better and Avilo stood at his points pretty arrogant, thats why he had to leave. Also they seemed to know that Avilo is that naiv and they invited him as a trol, it was just about making idra mad for the viewers.
On June 30 2012 04:06 saMas wrote: wooow I just lost allot of respect for the people on SOTG.Avilo was being mannerd and idra just reacts like a litle spoiled kid, this is getting kinda sad.
Interrupting Idra several times was bad mannered, also his points were random thougths "oh hey did u see fitzyhares build?". Idras arguments were just ten times better and Avilo stood at his points pretty arrogant, thats why he had to leave. Also they seemed to know that Avilo is that naiv and they invited him as a trol, it was just about making idra mad for the viewers.
Keep your idiocy out of his fan club.
Try making your sentences coherent then people will take your nonsensical, defamatory opinions seriously.
On June 30 2012 04:06 saMas wrote: wooow I just lost allot of respect for the people on SOTG.Avilo was being mannerd and idra just reacts like a litle spoiled kid, this is getting kinda sad.
Interrupting Idra several times was bad mannered, also his points were random thougths "oh hey did u see fitzyhares build?". Idras arguments were just ten times better and Avilo stood at his points pretty arrogant, thats why he had to leave. Also they seemed to know that Avilo is that naiv and they invited him as a trol, it was just about making idra mad for the viewers.
Keep your idiocy out of his fan club.
Try making your sentences coherent then people will take your nonsensical, defamatory opinions seriously.
there is nothing incomprehensible about D4V3Z02's post. There are two sides to any argument, and understanding both sides is a much stronger approach than unshakeable fanboyism.
On June 30 2012 04:06 saMas wrote: wooow I just lost allot of respect for the people on SOTG.Avilo was being mannerd and idra just reacts like a litle spoiled kid, this is getting kinda sad.
Interrupting Idra several times was bad mannered, also his points were random thougths "oh hey did u see fitzyhares build?". Idras arguments were just ten times better and Avilo stood at his points pretty arrogant, thats why he had to leave. Also they seemed to know that Avilo is that naiv and they invited him as a trol, it was just about making idra mad for the viewers.
Keep your idiocy out of his fan club.
Try making your sentences coherent then people will take your nonsensical, defamatory opinions seriously.
there is nothing incomprehensible about D4V3Z02's post. There are two sides to any argument, and understanding both sides is a much stronger approach than unshakeable fanboyism.
Did you not read what he said? Words misspelled, little punctuation, misnaming a player and incoherent sentence structure to name but a few.
Not to mention your little grasp of grammar, you do not put the word 'and' after a comma. I am not a fanboy of Avilo, this is the first time I have heard of him, making your point invalid.
You do not post hatred towards that player, in his/her fanclub.
EDIT: I didn't even say "incomprehensible" in my original post.
Wouldnt worry about Idra nor his fanboys. They are like the Justin Bieber fans tbh. Makes alot of sound and they are everywere but nothing good ever comes out of them. Just loud and irratating noices.
Idra have been, and always will be a crybaby. He is a nobody and I wouldnt even consider taking anything he says serious.
Sotg is just a club for internal admiration, Avilo should just stay away
On June 30 2012 04:06 saMas wrote: wooow I just lost allot of respect for the people on SOTG.Avilo was being mannerd and idra just reacts like a litle spoiled kid, this is getting kinda sad.
He does it because he gets away with it.
because he is JP friend... Sad that Tyler or Qxc didnt go against jp...
On June 30 2012 07:02 Keidy wrote: Wouldnt worry about Idra nor his fanboys. They are like the Justin Bieber fans tbh. Makes alot of sound and they are everywere but nothing good ever comes out of them. Just loud and irratating noices.
Idra have been, and always will be a crybaby. He is a nobody and I wouldnt even consider taking anything he says serious.
Sotg is just a club for internal admiration, Avilo should just stay away
Calling others crybabies while lauding Avilo... I'm pretty indifferent to Avilo, though i like his fun play, but that just makes no sense. He's even worse than IdrA at imbalance whining - if you paid attention to him at all before this you would know that.
On June 30 2012 04:06 saMas wrote: wooow I just lost allot of respect for the people on SOTG.Avilo was being mannerd and idra just reacts like a litle spoiled kid, this is getting kinda sad.
Interrupting Idra several times was bad mannered, also his points were random thougths "oh hey did u see fitzyhares build?". Idras arguments were just ten times better and Avilo stood at his points pretty arrogant, thats why he had to leave. Also they seemed to know that Avilo is that naiv and they invited him as a trol, it was just about making idra mad for the viewers.
Keep your idiocy out of his fan club.
Try making your sentences coherent then people will take your nonsensical, defamatory opinions seriously.
there is nothing incomprehensible about D4V3Z02's post. There are two sides to any argument, and understanding both sides is a much stronger approach than unshakeable fanboyism.
Did you not read what he said? Words misspelled, little punctuation, misnaming a player and incoherent sentence structure to name but a few.
Not to mention your little grasp of grammar, you do not put the word 'and' after a comma. I am not a fanboy of Avilo, this is the first time I have heard of him, making your point invalid.
You do not post hatred towards that player, in his/her fanclub.
EDIT: I didn't even say "incomprehensible" in my original post.
Oh no! Not punctuation problems! His post was completely understandable and had good points. Idra went overboard but Avillo was poking him. He was put on the program to piss Idra off though.
On June 30 2012 04:06 saMas wrote: wooow I just lost allot of respect for the people on SOTG.Avilo was being mannerd and idra just reacts like a litle spoiled kid, this is getting kinda sad.
Interrupting Idra several times was bad mannered, also his points were random thougths "oh hey did u see fitzyhares build?". Idras arguments were just ten times better and Avilo stood at his points pretty arrogant, thats why he had to leave. Also they seemed to know that Avilo is that naiv and they invited him as a trol, it was just about making idra mad for the viewers.
Keep your idiocy out of his fan club.
Try making your sentences coherent then people will take your nonsensical, defamatory opinions seriously.
there is nothing incomprehensible about D4V3Z02's post. There are two sides to any argument, and understanding both sides is a much stronger approach than unshakeable fanboyism.
Did you not read what he said? Words misspelled, little punctuation, misnaming a player and incoherent sentence structure to name but a few.
Not to mention your little grasp of grammar, you do not put the word 'and' after a comma. I am not a fanboy of Avilo, this is the first time I have heard of him, making your point invalid.
You do not post hatred towards that player, in his/her fanclub.
EDIT: I didn't even say "incomprehensible" in my original post.
Oh no! Not punctuation problems! His post was completely understandable and had good points. Idra went overboard but Avillo was poking him. He was put on the program to piss Idra off though.
Notice how this is the Avilo fan club and not the "IdrA was right and Avilo was wrong" thread.
On June 30 2012 04:06 saMas wrote: wooow I just lost allot of respect for the people on SOTG.Avilo was being mannerd and idra just reacts like a litle spoiled kid, this is getting kinda sad.
Interrupting Idra several times was bad mannered, also his points were random thougths "oh hey did u see fitzyhares build?". Idras arguments were just ten times better and Avilo stood at his points pretty arrogant, thats why he had to leave. Also they seemed to know that Avilo is that naiv and they invited him as a trol, it was just about making idra mad for the viewers.
Keep your idiocy out of his fan club.
Try making your sentences coherent then people will take your nonsensical, defamatory opinions seriously.
there is nothing incomprehensible about D4V3Z02's post. There are two sides to any argument, and understanding both sides is a much stronger approach than unshakeable fanboyism.
Did you not read what he said? Words misspelled, little punctuation, misnaming a player and incoherent sentence structure to name but a few.
Not to mention your little grasp of grammar, you do not put the word 'and' after a comma. I am not a fanboy of Avilo, this is the first time I have heard of him, making your point invalid.
You do not post hatred towards that player, in his/her fanclub.
EDIT: I didn't even say "incomprehensible" in my original post.
On June 30 2012 04:06 saMas wrote: wooow I just lost allot of respect for the people on SOTG.Avilo was being mannerd and idra just reacts like a litle spoiled kid, this is getting kinda sad.
He does it because he gets away with it.
because he is JP friend... Sad that Tyler or Qxc didnt go against jp...
Didn't one of them say to not bring him on because it gives him attention? I don't remember who said it, but it may have even been Greg.
EPT
