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Wow the current map looks zerg favoured. Really large empty space in the middle.
With his insane creep spread he should be able to kill any kind of army that dares to tread that ground.
edit: outclassed again
Did he ever lose a single game today?
Even his creep spread is one of a kind. He has outrageous amounts of creep tumours in the shortest amount of time, almost always spreads them ON COOLDOWN, and his macro doesnt slip in the slightest.
Stephano might actually just be the best zerg in the world right now, judging from his gameplay.
No other zerg looks as crisp as he does on his stream, they kinda look like amateurs in comparison.
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I'm confused as to why he takes only one gas at every base. o.o;;
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On December 28 2011 12:03 K3Nyy wrote:
I'm confused as to why he takes only one gas at every base. o.o;;
my shot:
so when in late game when hes gas dependant losing 1 base won't cut him from gas income :p
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On December 28 2011 12:03 K3Nyy wrote:
I'm confused as to why he takes only one gas at every base. o.o;;
Its because he sends drones to his expansions from his main etc as soon as they pop and then sets the rally of all bases to their own mineral line.
If he builds 2 gas at one of his bases, that base would have less than optimal drone saturation for some time until he sends 3 drones from some other base over again, or manually builds 3 drones for that base.
If he builds the gases evenly instead, the drone saturation works out much better right off the bat.
As to why he didnt take any more gas in general in that game, he used roach ling with 3/3/3 upgrades, roach ling isnt gas heavy, even with only 1 gas taken at all bases he did float a little bit of gas as you saw on the top right.
He tried to switch to infestor with that floating gas, but it came too late, terran already had his side of the map secured.
Basically that infestor transition was a forced move because he didnt have any minerals left, as his only mineral bases were on the left and they repeatedly got denied by the terran, and instead of dying with no units, he transitioned into the only unit that he couldve built in that situation (as in the only thing he was able to afford money wise). Infestors.
If the main and the natural are closeby, i send drones to the expansion aswell, and if i do, its quite noticeable that it hurts your saturation if you build your initial 2 gases at the same expansion.
You can send drones that are already morphing to the base with less drones manually, which fixes the problem, but then whats the point of sending the first drones down to the expansion in the first place?
On maps where the natural is a little further, i dont send drones to the expansion but rather saturate the main first, then rally to the expansion.
If you proceed like this, its fine if you build both gases in your main, since you already have it saturated and any drones you build afterwards would run down to your natural anyways, therefore not hurting your main base saturation.
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On December 28 2011 12:15 gh0un wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2011 12:03 K3Nyy wrote:
I'm confused as to why he takes only one gas at every base. o.o;; Its because he sends drones to his expansions from his main etc as soon as they pop and then sets the rally of all bases to their own mineral line. If he builds 2 gas at one of his bases, that base would have less than optimal drone saturation for some time until he sends 3 drones from some other base over again, or manually builds 3 drones for that base. If he builds the gases evenly instead, the drone saturation works out much better right off the bat. As to why he didnt take any more gas in general in that game, he used roach ling with 3/3/3 upgrades, roach ling isnt gas heavy, even with only 1 gas taken at all bases he did float a little bit of gas as you saw on the top right. He tried to switch to infestor with that floating gas, but it came too late, terran already had his side of the map secured. Basically that infestor transition was a forced move because he didnt have any minerals left, as his only mineral bases were on the left and they repeatedly got denied by the terran, and instead of dying with no units, he transitioned into the only unit that he couldve built in that situation (as in the only thing he was able to afford money wise). Infestors. If the main and the natural are closeby, i send drones to the expansion aswell, and if i do, its quite noticeable that it hurts your saturation if you build your initial 2 gases at the same expansion. You can send drones that are already morphing to the base with less drones manually, which fixes the problem, but then whats the point of sending the first drones down to the expansion in the first place? On maps where the natural is a little further, i dont send drones to the expansion but rather saturate the main first, then rally to the expansion. If you proceed like this, its fine if you build both gases in your main, since you already have it saturated and any drones you build would run down to your natural anyways.
-__________________- lol
I was just wondering if he was just joking around or not. T_T
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On December 28 2011 12:25 K3Nyy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2011 12:15 gh0un wrote:On December 28 2011 12:03 K3Nyy wrote:
I'm confused as to why he takes only one gas at every base. o.o;; Its because he sends drones to his expansions from his main etc as soon as they pop and then sets the rally of all bases to their own mineral line. If he builds 2 gas at one of his bases, that base would have less than optimal drone saturation for some time until he sends 3 drones from some other base over again, or manually builds 3 drones for that base. If he builds the gases evenly instead, the drone saturation works out much better right off the bat. As to why he didnt take any more gas in general in that game, he used roach ling with 3/3/3 upgrades, roach ling isnt gas heavy, even with only 1 gas taken at all bases he did float a little bit of gas as you saw on the top right. He tried to switch to infestor with that floating gas, but it came too late, terran already had his side of the map secured. Basically that infestor transition was a forced move because he didnt have any minerals left, as his only mineral bases were on the left and they repeatedly got denied by the terran, and instead of dying with no units, he transitioned into the only unit that he couldve built in that situation (as in the only thing he was able to afford money wise). Infestors. If the main and the natural are closeby, i send drones to the expansion aswell, and if i do, its quite noticeable that it hurts your saturation if you build your initial 2 gases at the same expansion. You can send drones that are already morphing to the base with less drones manually, which fixes the problem, but then whats the point of sending the first drones down to the expansion in the first place? On maps where the natural is a little further, i dont send drones to the expansion but rather saturate the main first, then rally to the expansion. If you proceed like this, its fine if you build both gases in your main, since you already have it saturated and any drones you build would run down to your natural anyways. -__________________- lol I was just wondering if he was just joking around or not. T_T
Whats the point of that post.
Doesnt my explanation make sense? You play zerg?
If you play zerg you will notice what i just explained.
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who won the zvz losira game where he refused to build infestors or hydras? had to leave right before it ended I think
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On December 28 2011 12:03 K3Nyy wrote:
I'm confused as to why he takes only one gas at every base. o.o;;
If i had to guess i would say its harder for his opponent to scout if he takes 1 at each base.
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On December 28 2011 11:44 gh0un wrote:
Even his creep spread is one of a kind. He has outrageous amounts of creep tumours in the shortest amount of time, almost always spreads them ON COOLDOWN, and his macro doesnt slip in the slightest.
Stephano might actually just be the best zerg in the world right now, judging from his gameplay.
No other zerg looks as crisp as he does on his stream, they kinda look like amateurs in comparison.
lol stephano is great but he does not have the best creep spread or macro.
Stephano has very good strats and is highly aggressive
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Really sick game against losira today, beating him in the face of insane odds. I don't really understand how stephano is this good and still loses games against foreigners sometimes.
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On December 28 2011 14:16 m3rciless wrote:
Really sick game against losira today, beating him in the face of insane odds. I don't really understand how stephano is this good and still loses games against foreigners sometimes.
It is very easy to lose to players who are much worse then you by simply abusing coin flip builds. That is the biggest flaw with sc2 as why it is very rare to see one player dominate the scene for a long period of time.
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finaly 10 wins 1 loose on his stream (91% ratio) =D
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On December 28 2011 13:17 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2011 11:44 gh0un wrote:
Even his creep spread is one of a kind. He has outrageous amounts of creep tumours in the shortest amount of time, almost always spreads them ON COOLDOWN, and his macro doesnt slip in the slightest.
Stephano might actually just be the best zerg in the world right now, judging from his gameplay.
No other zerg looks as crisp as he does on his stream, they kinda look like amateurs in comparison. lol stephano is great but he does not have the best creep spread or macro. Stephano has very good strats and is highly aggressive
Show me one player with better creep spread. You wont find anyone. Watch the games from yesterday and you will see the best creep spread.
And i will argue that his macro is one of the best, if not the best. He always has units out right in time to defend timing pushes, that is called macro, being able to build drones only until he needs units to defend an attack.
Just building drones and then dying to some random pressure is NOT macro, its being greedy and dying to random shit.
He almost always has more macro hatches and spinecrawlers than other zerg, while others will float those 1k minerals.
Especially the muta ling bling players always float huge amount of minerals because they just refuse to get macro hatches and spinecrawlers.
Stephano gets those macro hatches and spinecrawlers even if he goes muta ling bane, and just looks more safe against random pressure because of that.
That very good strat stuff is bullshit and you clearly quote that from idra. Sorry to be the first one, but idra is once again wrong about a players skill (he was calling nestea bad back when he just won season 2, we know how that turned out).
If he doesnt know the players well, he always calls them bad, no matter how they play, and refers to their gimicky play.
I like watching idra´s stream because he is a good player, but its apparent from his commentary that he doesnt respect anyone´s play unless that one is famous already and has won several major tournaments.
Thats not how you measure someone´s skill, otherwise idra would be bottom tier in sc2, considering he hasnt won anything major, even though he is one of the best foreigners.
Its just hard to win major tournaments in sc2 back to back because of all the coin flip builds and build order losses in the early game, unless you are that much better than anyone else (which mvp and nestea were for a long time, others are catching up though).
Even considering all this, stephano managed to take major tournaments vs koreans already, and looking at his play, he doesnt look like a one trick pony at all.
He plays reactionary and is not dependent on a single gimicky strat to win him games.
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@MillStephano: I'll try to stream around 16 CET today, Be there guys. One of my last stream in korea !
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On December 28 2011 20:13 SpiffD wrote:
@MillStephano: I'll try to stream around 16 CET today, Be there guys. One of my last stream in korea !
Cant wait. Im very sorry i missed yesteday stream i heard it was epic.
Damm christmas:D
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On December 24 2011 23:48 Thegathering wrote:I took the liberty to translate it, enjoy. + Show Spoiler +Bonjour à tous,
Les fêtes de fin d'années battent leur plein et l'heure est venue pour moi de faire un petit bilan de l'année qui vient de s'écouler, ainsi que de mes projets à venir.
Durant les premiers mois de 2011, mes résultats ont en quelques sortes confirmé mon niveau de jeu, comprendre par là qu'il n'y'avait rien d'exceptionnel et que pour moi à ce moment précis j'avais atteint une sorte de palier. J'étais assez satisfait de mes performances, sans pour autant espérer plus.
Je ne songeais pas du tout à prendre une année pour me consacrer à Starcraft 2.Mes études me prenaient vraiment trop de temps et surtout je ne me voyais pas gagner aussi bien ma vie sur un jeu vidéo. Il a fallu attendre le début de l'été pour que je commence à sérieusement envisager cette possibilité.
Ma performance à la HomeStory Cup 3 et surtout mon TOP 3 à la Lan Assembly ont vraiment été des éléments déclencheurs dans ma décision. J'ai réalisé à ce moment – là que je pouvais encore grandir en terme de qualité et jeu et aller me confronter aux plus grands. C'est d'ailleurs dans cette optique que j'ai tenté ma chance aux qualifications pour les IPL 3, sans vraiment trop y croire.
Les remporter était déjà pour moi quelque chose d'énorme, je ne m'attendais vraiment pas à gagner le tournoi entier quelques semaines plus tard. Après avoir remporté l'ESWC, j'ai commencé à penser à la Corée et à tout ce que ce pays pouvait m'apporter. Ce voyage m'a démontré que j'avais encore beaucoup à apprendre et que c'est vraiment l'endroit où il faut être si l'on veut vraiment s'améliorer.
À quelques jours de mon retour en France, le bilan est cependant plutôt mitigé : je pense avoir vraiment appris. J'ai pu constater les limites de mon jeu et par la suite pallier à ses défauts.
Le rythme d'entrainement en revanche ne me convient pas du tout. Le fait de passer à dix heures de jeu par jour m'a vraiment épuisé, c'est beaucoup trop. J'aime avoir mes activités en dehors du jeu et je pense que quelque part ce rythme peut nuire à ma progression sur le long terme, dans le sens où je ne progresse qu'en appréciant de jouer. Actuellement ce n'est plus trop le cas.
Mon retour en France se profile à l'horizon et j'ai vraiment hâte de retrouver mes proches .pour ce qui est de la suite des évènements j'avoue ne pas encore avoir pris une réelle décision. Mes derniers résultats ne sont pas vraiment mauvais, vous êtes de plus en plus nombreux à me suivre sur mon stream et je pense pouvoir encore progresser dans les mois à venir. Les prochains évènements seront probablement déterminants dans ma décision finale, la route est encore longue et je compte vraiment faire mon possible pour remporter le plus de compétitions possible.
Pour finir, je tiens à remercier toutes les personnes qui me suivent au quotidien, j'espère ne pas vous décevoir dans les events à venir.
Bonnes fêtes à tous, Hi all, The holidays are in full swing and it's time for me to do a little review of the past year and my future projects. During the first months of 2011, my results confirmed in some ways my level of play, meaning that there was nothing special for me at that time and I had reached a sort of ceiling. I was pretty satisfied with my performance, without hope for more. I was not thinking at all to take a year to devote myself to Starcraft 2. My studies were taking me a lot of time and I wasn't seeing myself making a career of a video game. It was not until the early summer that I began to seriously consider this possibility. My performance at the HomeStory Cup 3 and especially my TOP 3 in the Assembly Lan were really triggers in my decision. I realized at that moment that I could still grow in quality of play and compete against the best players. It is in this regard that I tried to qualify for the IPL 3, without really much faith. The win for me was already something big [in the Qualifier #3], I really did not expect to win the whole tournament a few weeks later. After winning the ESWC, I began to think of Korea and what a trip in the country could bring me. This trip showed me that I still had much to learn and it's really the place to be if you really want to improve. A few days before my return to France, the results are rather mixed : I think I really learned. I was able to see the limits of my game and then fix some shortcomings. The pace of training, however, does not suit me at all. Playing ten hours per day was really exhausting, it's too much. I like having my activities outside the game and I think that this rate can hurt my progress in the long term, in the sense that I'm improving when I actually enjoy playing. Currently it's not the case. My return to France is coming and I can't wait to see my family. For the future, I haven't made a real decision. My final results are not really bad, you are an increasing number of people to follow me on my stream and I think I can still make progress in the upcoming months. The next event will probably be decisive in my final decision, the road is still long and I will really do my best to win as many competitions as possible. Finally, I want to thank all those who follow me every day, I hope not to disappoint you in future events. Happy Holidays to all, [M]Stephano
damn hopefully he wins so he can stay playing sc2... his raw talent is amazing
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On December 28 2011 20:09 gh0un wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2011 13:17 Mattchew wrote:On December 28 2011 11:44 gh0un wrote:
Even his creep spread is one of a kind. He has outrageous amounts of creep tumours in the shortest amount of time, almost always spreads them ON COOLDOWN, and his macro doesnt slip in the slightest.
Stephano might actually just be the best zerg in the world right now, judging from his gameplay.
No other zerg looks as crisp as he does on his stream, they kinda look like amateurs in comparison. lol stephano is great but he does not have the best creep spread or macro. Stephano has very good strats and is highly aggressive Show me one player with better creep spread. You wont find anyone. Watch the games from yesterday and you will see the best creep spread. And i will argue that his macro is one of the best, if not the best. He always has units out right in time to defend timing pushes, that is called macro, being able to build drones only until he needs units to defend an attack. Just building drones and then dying to some random pressure is NOT macro, its being greedy and dying to random shit. He almost always has more macro hatches and spinecrawlers than other zerg, while others will float those 1k minerals. Especially the muta ling bling players always float huge amount of minerals because they just refuse to get macro hatches and spinecrawlers. Stephano gets those macro hatches and spinecrawlers even if he goes muta ling bane, and just looks more safe against random pressure because of that. That very good strat stuff is bullshit and you clearly quote that from idra. Sorry to be the first one, but idra is once again wrong about a players skill (he was calling nestea bad back when he just won season 2, we know how that turned out). If he doesnt know the players well, he always calls them bad, no matter how they play, and refers to their gimicky play. I like watching idra´s stream because he is a good player, but its apparent from his commentary that he doesnt respect anyone´s play unless that one is famous already and has won several major tournaments. Thats not how you measure someone´s skill, otherwise idra would be bottom tier in sc2, considering he hasnt won anything major, even though he is one of the best foreigners. Its just hard to win major tournaments in sc2 back to back because of all the coin flip builds and build order losses in the early game, unless you are that much better than anyone else (which mvp and nestea were for a long time, others are catching up though). Even considering all this, stephano managed to take major tournaments vs koreans already, and looking at his play, he doesnt look like a one trick pony at all. He plays reactionary and is not dependent on a single gimicky strat to win him games.
morrow has better creepspread.
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