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Ignore the Stephano hype, that kid will never win another tournament. His priorities are all in the wrong place, and he'll never be as good as Nestea. Just the fact that people were attributing ling infestor to Stephano blows my mind, that build was introduced by a Tler MONTHS before Stephano even came onto the scene.
Stephano has practiced like three hours a day these past months since he is also focusing on his studies and almost all of it is ladder games, yet he comes to a tournament like this and just smashes all competition with very convincing play. On the ladder he is so unmatched right now that he beats the other top EU players with the most random strategies like mass lings and queens.
He is good, period.
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On October 11 2011 22:53 ch33psh33p wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 22:40 Micket wrote:
Nestea has now become the only person ever to take 2 games off MVP in a ZvT series. Ignore the Stephano hype, that kid will never win another tournament. His priorities are all in the wrong place, and he'll never be as good as Nestea. Just the fact that people were attributing ling infestor to Stephano blows my mind, that build was introduced by a Tler MONTHS before Stephano even came onto the scene.
Oh Stephano is super good, but those saying he is easy Code S Ro4 are being slightly delusional. He has to at least prove it. Players such as DRG, MMA and Bomber have yet to reach the Ro4 and people would not be surprised if they won any foreign tournaments.
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Someone needs to make a mix video of all the hype comments from artosis during GSL  they are so epicly awesome.
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On October 11 2011 22:53 ch33psh33p wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 22:40 Micket wrote:
Nestea has now become the only person ever to take 2 games off MVP in a ZvT series. Ignore the Stephano hype, that kid will never win another tournament. His priorities are all in the wrong place, and he'll never be as good as Nestea. Just the fact that people were attributing ling infestor to Stephano blows my mind, that build was introduced by a Tler MONTHS before Stephano even came onto the scene.
How the hell can you say such a thing ? Have you somehow seen the future ? If you wish to ignore the Stephano hype, then do it and stop saying stupid things.
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I know this is the Nestea fan club. Though he really disappointed me today. I thought he would go down 0-3 without a chance.
I didn't expect him to actually be given so many opportunities, just to squander them. His play on Dual Site was ugly honestly. He had a lead, but he let it slip a way for no reason really.
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On October 12 2011 00:37 Cyanocyst wrote:
I know this is the Nestea fan club. Though he really disappointed me today. I thought he would go down 0-3 without a chance.
I didn't expect him to actually be given so many opportunities, just to squander them. His play on Dual Site was ugly honestly. He had a lead, but he let it slip a way for no reason really.
GTFO. This is a FANCLUB. Don't post it here. Post it somewhere people will care.
I was really impressed by Nestea's play today. Really wish he would get interest in a foreign tournament, but that's probably wishful thinking.
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On October 12 2011 00:40 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2011 00:37 Cyanocyst wrote:
I know this is the Nestea fan club. Though he really disappointed me today. I thought he would go down 0-3 without a chance.
I didn't expect him to actually be given so many opportunities, just to squander them. His play on Dual Site was ugly honestly. He had a lead, but he let it slip a way for no reason really.
GTFO. This is a FANCLUB. Don't post it here. Post it somewhere people will care. I was really impressed by Nestea's play today. Really wish he would get interest in a foreign tournament, but that's probably wishful thinking.
Didn't know fan clubs required every post to be a compliment.
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On October 12 2011 00:45 pt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2011 00:40 SeaSwift wrote:On October 12 2011 00:37 Cyanocyst wrote:
I know this is the Nestea fan club. Though he really disappointed me today. I thought he would go down 0-3 without a chance.
I didn't expect him to actually be given so many opportunities, just to squander them. His play on Dual Site was ugly honestly. He had a lead, but he let it slip a way for no reason really.
GTFO. This is a FANCLUB. Don't post it here. Post it somewhere people will care. I was really impressed by Nestea's play today. Really wish he would get interest in a foreign tournament, but that's probably wishful thinking. Didn't know fan clubs required every post to be a compliment.
Its meant to be a place to write supportive comments, and everyone can share in their appreciation for Nestea. Why write criticisms in a person's fan club? Its the wrong place. Also check out other fan clubs, the same rule applies...except in Idra's case, where the mods just got too tired of dealing with the Idra criticism, so they said you can do it unless it gets really bad
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On October 12 2011 00:45 pt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2011 00:40 SeaSwift wrote:On October 12 2011 00:37 Cyanocyst wrote:
I know this is the Nestea fan club. Though he really disappointed me today. I thought he would go down 0-3 without a chance.
I didn't expect him to actually be given so many opportunities, just to squander them. His play on Dual Site was ugly honestly. He had a lead, but he let it slip a way for no reason really.
GTFO. This is a FANCLUB. Don't post it here. Post it somewhere people will care. I was really impressed by Nestea's play today. Really wish he would get interest in a foreign tournament, but that's probably wishful thinking. Didn't know fan clubs required every post to be a compliment.
It doesn't. But the Initial post had wrong facts to begin with.
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NesTea was not that ahead on dual site. But when he clinched the fungals on hellions he gained map control. But he was in two bases. Nonetheless this was the best Mvp - NesTea till date, NesTea played really well!
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Nestea was closer to getting over his MVP hump than ever. GJ to him today, he ran the best TvZer harder than before.
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NesTea isn't to blame. NesTea is better than MVP ...... MVP is a good player but playing a broken race.. NesTea is an amazing player playing a race that actually require a ton load of skills to play. I'm a masters Terran, and I'm a silver Zerg.
I give NesTea Kudos 'cause he tried to do something different .. (drops) sadly it didn't work but I don't mind him getting knocked out 'cause he's only given more time to improve his play especially ZvT.
Terran is just ridiculously strong. NesTea is no question the best player in the world based on skills. No one comes close to him.
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On October 12 2011 07:06 OHKae wrote:
NesTea isn't to blame. NesTea is better than MVP ...... MVP is a good player but playing a broken race.. NesTea is an amazing player playing a race that actually require a ton load of skills to play. I'm a masters Terran, and I'm a silver Zerg.
I give NesTea Kudos 'cause he tried to do something different .. (drops) sadly it didn't work but I don't mind him getting knocked out 'cause he's only given more time to improve his play especially ZvT.
Terran is just ridiculously strong. NesTea is no question the best player in the world based on skills. No one comes close to him.
I'm master Zerg and diamond Terran. I think Zerg is broken. Infestors are so much easier than marines.
They are both good, I couldn't tell you whose better. I love how NesTea plays though. MVP just had a better series.
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The fact that Nestea could go 2-3 against the other best player in the world (also the best TvZer) in his worst MU shows both how awesome he is and how his vT is coming closer to his other 2 matchups.
If MVP was Z or P, with Nestea's godliness in those matchups, it would have been 3-1 the other way IMO.
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On October 12 2011 07:14 TerlocSG wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2011 07:06 OHKae wrote:
NesTea isn't to blame. NesTea is better than MVP ...... MVP is a good player but playing a broken race.. NesTea is an amazing player playing a race that actually require a ton load of skills to play. I'm a masters Terran, and I'm a silver Zerg.
I give NesTea Kudos 'cause he tried to do something different .. (drops) sadly it didn't work but I don't mind him getting knocked out 'cause he's only given more time to improve his play especially ZvT.
Terran is just ridiculously strong. NesTea is no question the best player in the world based on skills. No one comes close to him.
I'm master Zerg and diamond Terran. I think Zerg is broken. Infestors are so much easier than marines. They are both good, I couldn't tell you whose better. I love how NesTea plays though. MVP just had a better series.
You're diamond Terran 'cause you don't press A enough.
LOL Zerg is broken? are you serious?
Ghosts>Infestors/all tier 3 units of Zerg
20 or more Terrans in Code S
NesTea played at such a level that MVP couldn't come up to par with but Terran scraps all of that and decides that it's going to be a TvT final.. once again
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On October 12 2011 07:32 OHKae wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2011 07:14 TerlocSG wrote:On October 12 2011 07:06 OHKae wrote:
NesTea isn't to blame. NesTea is better than MVP ...... MVP is a good player but playing a broken race.. NesTea is an amazing player playing a race that actually require a ton load of skills to play. I'm a masters Terran, and I'm a silver Zerg.
I give NesTea Kudos 'cause he tried to do something different .. (drops) sadly it didn't work but I don't mind him getting knocked out 'cause he's only given more time to improve his play especially ZvT.
Terran is just ridiculously strong. NesTea is no question the best player in the world based on skills. No one comes close to him.
I'm master Zerg and diamond Terran. I think Zerg is broken. Infestors are so much easier than marines. They are both good, I couldn't tell you whose better. I love how NesTea plays though. MVP just had a better series. You're diamond Terran 'cause you don't press A enough. LOL Zerg is broken? are you serious? Ghosts>Infestors/all tier 3 units of Zerg 20 or more Terrans in Code S NesTea played at such a level that MVP couldn't come up to par with but Terran scraps all of that and decides that it's going to be a TvT final.. once again
Perhaps you know nothing, but MVP actually achieved things in bw. They are team mates, and MVP has always beaten him when they play (generally pretty one sided..) so the fact that it was 3-2 is really good... Both players are great, don't blame balance for Nesteas loss..... Just appreciate both of them, because they are easily the top 2 players in the world.
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On October 12 2011 07:06 OHKae wrote:
NesTea isn't to blame. NesTea is better than MVP ...... MVP is a good player but playing a broken race.. NesTea is an amazing player playing a race that actually require a ton load of skills to play. I'm a masters Terran, and I'm a silver Zerg.
I give NesTea Kudos 'cause he tried to do something different .. (drops) sadly it didn't work but I don't mind him getting knocked out 'cause he's only given more time to improve his play especially ZvT.
Terran is just ridiculously strong. NesTea is no question the best player in the world based on skills. No one comes close to him.
Yea I don't see you lasting very long on TeamLiquid with this kind of posting.....
Nestea played some pretty awesome games with MVP last night. I think he had a couple opportunities to win on Dual Sight and Metalopolis that he didn't take full advantage of but other than that his play was just unbelievably solid.
His win on Tal'Darim Altar was just flat out impressive. I think most everyone counted him out when MVP's push was on the low ground shelling his natural but somehow Nestea manages to come back, slaughter that army and win the game.
Professor Tea is still the best Zerg in the world.
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On October 12 2011 07:35 Yamulo wrote:
Perhaps you know nothing, but MVP actually achieved things in bw. They are team mates, and MVP has always beaten him when they play (generally pretty one sided..) so the fact that it was 3-2 is really good... Both players are great, don't blame balance for Nesteas loss..... Just appreciate both of them, because they are easily the top 2 players in the world.
You know ZergBong?
Anyways, sure MVP was better than NesTea in broodwar but that doesn't mean he will 100% be better than him in Starcraft 2.. Yellow should be beating MVP if that was true.
NeaTea plays at a level that no one can compare to. He can read situations so well and respond so well too. Unfortunatley, being smarter doesn't mean you will win. Sometimes, the maps/races are just too in favour of the player that you will lose. I'd say MVP is 75% of NesTea's level. The other 25% comes from Terran which is no doubt imbalanced at the top level as of right now.
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On October 12 2011 07:58 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2011 07:06 OHKae wrote:
NesTea isn't to blame. NesTea is better than MVP ...... MVP is a good player but playing a broken race.. NesTea is an amazing player playing a race that actually require a ton load of skills to play. I'm a masters Terran, and I'm a silver Zerg.
I give NesTea Kudos 'cause he tried to do something different .. (drops) sadly it didn't work but I don't mind him getting knocked out 'cause he's only given more time to improve his play especially ZvT.
Terran is just ridiculously strong. NesTea is no question the best player in the world based on skills. No one comes close to him.
Yea I don't see you lasting very long on TeamLiquid with this kind of posting..... Nestea played some pretty awesome games with MVP last night. I think he had a couple opportunities to win on Dual Sight and Metalopolis that he didn't take full advantage of but other than that his play was just unbelievably solid. His win on Tal'Darim Altar was just flat out impressive. I think most everyone counted him out when MVP's push was on the low ground shelling his natural but somehow Nestea manages to come back, slaughter that army and win the game. Professor Tea is still the best Zerg in the world.
Professor Tea is still the best player in the world
FTFY
let's put this to my perspective..
A TENNIS MATCH
Jeong Jong Hyeon (IMMVP) vs. Lim Jae Duk (IMNesTea)
A well heated highly anticipated Ro8 Match ! But many are saying this is an MVP win since he's up 3-0 on NesTea in the Starcraft Open !
NesTea comes out wearing short shorts, a headbad, and long socks to top it off with an entourage of fanboys behind him (me in front obviously =D)
MVP walks out of the tunnel with "insert IMMvp theme song" playing wearing an MVP robe. 2 girls behind him waiting for his signal for them to take it off.
NesTea opens his napsack taking out a wooden racquet with metal strings ( you know those ancient racquets.. It's ok.. he's a hipster nerd baller as Tastosis stated)
wooden hard grip.. gives a lot of splinters and blisters D: and vibrates when hitting a tennis ball. A.K.A ZERG RACQUET
MVP opens his Wilson Pro tour bag (which holds more than 6 racquets.. wowow) and takes out a
Wilson Six.one racquet (Which Federer [the greatest tennis player in the history of history] uses).
Really high quality racquet ! nice soft, grippy grip, bouncy kevlar-like strings, amazing racquet. A.K.A TERRAN RACQUET.
Then he takes his GSL August trophy and puts it beside his chair.
They play with Wilson balls (apparently works better with Wilson Racquets)
With Tastosis commentating
and Slayers_Eve being the lineswoman (: (Lineswoman are alwas bent down) wooo.
John being the umpire
ok! we're all set !
..not yet.. Tastosis still needs to hype NesTea !
HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE !
ok! now we're all set ! Now we're all confident NesTea will win this ! ^o^
Set 1.. Despite NesTea's amazing footwork (macro) MVP was able to break NesTea's serve early on. MVP's ground strokes were all over NesTea's court (Hellion harass). Their rally was solid but NesTea was the one who was defending, slicing, and lobbing. MVP was just waiting for the timing of his finishing move, the smash. MVP serves it wide for the set, Nestea runs for it and successfuly lobs it into MVP's side but MVP was already at the net, volleying his set point with ease. SET 1 GOES TO MVP. !
The crowd now thinks this will be a repeat of their previous matches, but Tastosis doesn't think so !
Set 2 The crowd cheers for NesTea (because they didn't want to have a one sided TvZ.. they paid $10 (GOMTV premium pass) to see a great long 5 hour game ! ) NesTea gained momentum. MVP tried to serve and volley every point in his serve (2 rax) but NesTea read his moves before he even served and lead him to break MVP early on ! (yay!) NesTea feels like he can take this set if he just plays solid ! NesTea serves and volley to get back to MVP (fake baneling bust forcing MVP to build 2 bunkers) but he didn't ! NesTea faking him out and NesTea holding his serve. MVP wasn't happy about that and presents Nestea his powerful groundstrokes putting NesTea on his back (Hellion harass doing good damage) but NesTea did that thing where he gets up by pushing his back and getting up.. Jackie chan stuff.. now, NesTea goes for his 2 handed backhand ! (2-2 roach timing) but MVP was already at the net and deflects it easily (seige tanks on the high ground) Now, it's all tied up, until MVP showcases his aggressiveness in the court by serving when NesTea was tying his shoelace (Moving out with mech!) Now, NesTea wasn't prepared for this, he messed up tying his shoelace due to hurrying up to tie it (10 broodlords morphing). The ball bounces twice to NesTea and now MVP is ahead ! and it'll be soon two sets to love ! But now NesTea finished tying his shoelace and now feels comfortable whereas MVP is dead tired from his aggressiveness. (Broodlords cleaning up MVP's mech army) NesTea easily breaks MVP's serve and wins set 2 ! The crows now cheers for NesTea
MORE TASTOSIS HYPE !!
HYPE HYPE HYPE !
Set 3 Now that it's all tied up, the crows is tense and anxious about the third set ! Mvp is still resilient with his ground strokes but NesTea figured out MVP's strokes ! (shutting down hellion harass). NesTea wants to throw MVP off his game so he decided to mix things up a bit by slicing and volleying every stroke to MVP (roach/baneling drops) MVP was on top of his game but thought the slice was going to go left, but NO ! it went to the right ! That gave NesTea an early lead (roach/bane drop did some dmg) Now, NesTea kept trying since it worked once, why not the second time? (: but MVP quickly adapted and learned from his mistake. so it didn't work. But NesTea believes in "third time's a charm" and he trick MVP again ! (bane drop killed many SCVs)
He's now ahead ! MVP felt like he was being played almost slamming his racquet onto the ground.
MVP decided he'll stick to his speedy groundstrokes to counter this trickery. MVP taking advantage of rallies and giving NesTea a bit of trouble by making him run around. It gets worse D:
MVP hits it harder every time making nestea sprint now ! (MVP sieging up NesTea's natural) It looks bad. MVP taking so many points from NesTea.. 15-love , 30- love, 40- love GAME ! One more game until MVP takes the third set. he's tired, exhausted, what can he do? HE CAN GO FOR FOREHAND WINNERS ! THAT'S WHAT HE CAN DO ! So he decided to just do what he does best which is going for forehand winners down the line, crosscourt forehands with all his might, and MVP underestimating him because he doesn`t think 30 y/os can do that D: NUH UH ! MVP wasn't dumbfounded about what he thought about him, and forgetting to return Nestea's forehands (NesTea engaging and crushing MVP's whole army.. leaving MVP to having little to no army.. and was forced to GG 2 mins later) MVP now knowning that he let a third set win slip ! NesTea is now up 2 sets to 1 !
HYPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE !!
Set 4 MVP decided to stay true to his style. massive ground strokes ! (reactored hellion opening) but NO ! NesTea knows where the ball goes, and denies every winner MVP attempts to (ZERO drone kills from reactored hellion) NesTea looking really solid ! He might be able to take this 3-1 ! Now, MVP struggles to return a backhand from NesTea and lobbing it to him for an easy smash... BUT Nestea smashed it into the NET ! (wrong read from NesTea making infestors thinking it'll be a transition to bio) it didn't hurt nestea too much since he was ahead that time, but he wanted to make up for that mistake.. he kept trying to go to the net and smash or volley a winner, but he was over commiting making MVP lob the ball over him for easy points (nestea overcommited killing the third and his bases being shut down) NesTea was too confident at this point. he just wanted to make up for his mistake, because he NEVER makes any mistake ! but one mistake lead to many other mistakes but he realized it too late D: losing the 4th set.. NOW it's 2-2 !
What a great series ! It's not so one sided after all ! NOW it's down to the last set !
LAST BIT OF HYPPEE !
Set 5 MVP tries to be semi-aggressive by serve and volleying (building a bunker at the mineral line) and NesTea asks.... "anything new"? and easily returns it for a forehand winner . Nestea takes the early lead ! But little did NesTea know his strings are almost torn. He thought he was in a good position but his string was slowly being torn apart due to the intense rallies they had ( MVP double expanding very early on without nestea knowning it.) Nestea tried his trickery once again to MVP .... the slice and volley in a baseline rally (roach drop).. MVP never learned his lesson ! He always thought the balls slices to the left but it really goes to the right ! NesTea taking an early lead (Killing SCVs and getting the fairly good supply lead.) But the dramatic irony continues ! The crowd knows that the wooden racquet will soon break due to the hard hard rallies they had but Nestea doesn't know that because he's too focused in the game! (audience knowing 3rd OC mining and dropping mules, but nestea doesn't know ): ) More intense rallies happen and and it's toe to toe for GAME SET AND MATCH ! NesTea hears a weird uncanny sound coming from his racquet during the rally, and finally realizes that he's in trouble (scouting the third way too late) NesTea decided to forehand and backhand to the bitter end, but MVP's kevlar-like strings were putting on a show. NesTea couldn't take it anymore, and decided to go for one last, most powerful, sexiest forehand ever (Nestea tried to break the marine/tank contain with a flank). Nestea closes his eyes and swung as hard he ever swung before.. He opened his eyes and saw the ball behind him... HE MISSED THE BALL ! MVP TAKES THE LAST AND THE DECIDING SET !
MVP WINS 3-2 !!!!
Still more hype from tastosis !!
NesTea with the despair but MVP comes to his court and they both laughed about what had happened (When MVP visited Nestea in his booth and they both laughed) (:
The crowd was disappointed because they wanted to see the man that plays with a wooden racquet (zerg) win, because they think the player makes the racquet, not the racquet makes the player.. but Nestea thinks the opposite (nestea is known for his race imba QQing ) Kinda Ironic..
But the crowd was very satisfied because it was such a great series !
They are saying that this IS the FINALS..
and yup, that was what i was thinking when I was watching the series =3
I like tennis and sc2, so I might as well mix things up !
(I could have added interactions with slayers_eve and john, but it's up to your guys' imagination to do that ! and I'm too tired to type anymore.. I think i typed enough (: )
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On October 12 2011 08:31 Kluey wrote:
NeaTea plays at a level that no one can compare to. He can read situations so well and respond so well too. Unfortunatley, being smarter doesn't mean you will win. Sometimes, the maps/races are just too in favour of the player that you will lose. I'd say MVP is 75% of NesTea's level. The other 25% comes from Terran which is no doubt imbalanced at the top level as of right now.
Kind of agree with this, although I'd give MVP slightly more credit, he played a hell of a series. If the balance were better though I'd expect Nestea to be on his way to his 4th or even 5th gsl win. I feel like MVP is a tad better mechanically, but not significantly so. Nestea strikes me as the most intelligent player. He manages to do a lot with a little. Even blizzard openly admitted that terran was the best designed, zerg simply has less options.
Despite this, Nestea has remained a dominant force, and a strong favorite to win ever since gsl 2. Not to mention, he's been in all of them (not so hot in gsl1 >.>). About the only gsl since the second where he underperformed was in March and the world championship (damn you dimaga!). That consistency isn't matched by anyone except for maybe MVP (and he went to code A before), not a single zerg, protoss, or even terran. Not to mention he's won a few situations in which any other zerg would have rolled over and died:
- game 2 against top in the super
- game 3 against virus (october)
- game 5 against sC (may)
- his recent game on tal'darim against MVP
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