On July 13 2011 06:23 Invoker wrote: He is the ultimate zerg, I don't know what happens if he really switches race.
It's like Gandalf joining Mordor.
Eh, i'd be more like Saruman joining Gondor If Idra did change race he would have one of the best XvZ in the world, after some practice and refinement of course.
there was a photoshop of the picture of idra after he 2-0'd MC in MLG Col. Its him with bright red eyes and the zerg logo. If anyone has it could you please pm me?
On July 13 2011 15:08 BandonBanshee wrote: there was a photoshop of the picture of idra after he 2-0'd MC in MLG Col. Its him with bright red eyes and the zerg logo. If anyone has it could you please pm me?
Do you guys remember when I said a girlfriend would harm idrA's performance? Everybody laughed at me. A few pages later motbob came up and said exactly the same thing.....
During HSCIII I said that we should hope Socke defeats Goody as idrA is not familiar and would have massive problems with Goody's playstyle. Fortunately Socke won. And what did just happen a few minutes ago?
I wonder when people start to believe in me and call me the greatest prophet since Nostradamus.....
He doesn't practice. Of course his play is suffering. But, why anyone would need to look further than the fact he just seems to hate playing starcraft 2 for his lack of practice is really confusing.
He has said repeatedly that zerg pisses him off and that SC2 is terrible competitively... Why /would/ you expect him to be able to beat guys who actually practice?
It's the thing that actually he can make a living off.He should be practicing but there are huge problems with the zerg race in general.It's not fun playing zerg and certainly not that easy either.
I don't disagree with any of these posts (god I love zerg fanclubs....) but I have to say a lack of practice might be good. People need to turn off the switch or they risk burning themselves out with too much ladder and playing time, people that come to mind are SeleCT, MVP, FruitDealer.
Of course though the old saying use or lose it, you take too much downtime and you risk just becoming irrelevant and being too far behind in the metagame progressions.
On July 13 2011 15:08 BandonBanshee wrote: there was a photoshop of the picture of idra after he 2-0'd MC in MLG Col. Its him with bright red eyes and the zerg logo. If anyone has it could you please pm me?
On July 13 2011 15:08 BandonBanshee wrote: there was a photoshop of the picture of idra after he 2-0'd MC in MLG Col. Its him with bright red eyes and the zerg logo. If anyone has it could you please pm me?
look in the OP for the MLG updates
Thanks Whole! My bad I didn't see that.
np.
They have this awesome SC2 video (thread) about the growth of the scene. A good deal of IdrA beta footage is used in the beginning...I wish they would use some of his wins (vs Tester in final game of the King of the Beta comes to mind), but that is maybe just my bias speaking =P
Idra is generally very good and precise at executing stuff while he lacks creativity and diversity in his playstyle.
This lack however seems to be not caused by a lack of skill but (mis)understanding of the game in which he believes that the classic, safe style is always superior. What other explaination could there be for showing multi pronged drops in zvp, Nydus and mass ling styles while he almost always sticks to classic stuff against top opponents.
Why doesn't he use burrowed banelings in zvt? Terran never uses Ravens and they just can't scan the whole path.
That being said I believe Idra would be a very good protoss in a very short time because he would be fine with standard stuff in pvz but the might have problems in pvp for example.
What makes Sen more succesful than idra at the moment? How can Sen just offrace as Protoss and be competitive against zergs?
On July 13 2011 20:16 starsucks wrote: Idra is generally very good and precise at executing stuff while he lacks creativity and diversity in his playstyle.
This lack however seems to be not caused by a lack of skill but (mis)understanding of the game in which he believes that the classic, safe style is always superior. What other explaination could there be for showing multi pronged drops in zvp, Nydus and mass ling styles while he almost always sticks to classic stuff against top opponents.
Why doesn't he use burrowed banelings in zvt? Terran never uses Ravens and they just can't scan the whole path.
That being said I believe Idra would be a very good protoss in a very short time because he would be fine with standard stuff in pvz but the might have problems in pvp for example.
What makes Sen more succesful than idra at the moment? How can Sen just offrace as Protoss and be competitive against zergs?
Have you copy+paste this comment from this thread before? I swear I have seen this comment dozens of times in here.
Idra is generally very good and precise at executing stuff while he lacks creativity and diversity in his playstyle.
You obviosly don't watch his stream. He has done spinecrawler rushes, baneling sniping PF through nydus, sick drop play, double spire action. He just does not think that playing gimmicky is his best chance to win important games when he has significant advantages over other players, like understanding of the MU, mechanics, macro.
Why doesn't he use burrowed banelings in zvt?
Because he thinks, that other players are competent enaugh to scan and he doesn't want to rely on suprise and trickery. He was saying that zergs need to use more burrowed banelings for very long time tho.
Idra is generally very good and precise at executing stuff while he lacks creativity and diversity in his playstyle.
You obviosly don't watch his stream. He has done spinecrawler rushes, baneling sniping PF through nydus, sick drop play, double spire action. He just does not think that playing gimmicky is his best chance to win important games when he has significant advantages over other players, like understanding of the MU, mechanics, macro.
Because he thinks, that other players are competent enaugh to scan and he doesn't want to rely on suprise and trickery. He was saying that zergs need to use more burrowed banelings for very long time tho.
lol. Thanks for quoting a small portion of my post and answering it with something I've written in the next paragraph. I know what he has done but I also know what he does in tournaments against "real" opponents.
Scanning? Terrans scan the whole path when they do a marine tank push? Don't tell me something like that. It's not about burrowing banelings right at the edge of the creep. But for example just in front of their base. It's funny how 5 burrowed blings can kill a whole marine tank push and force the terran to just turn around and go home.
My main question is still not answered. Why is Sen more succesful than idra?
Idra is generally very good and precise at executing stuff while he lacks creativity and diversity in his playstyle.
You obviosly don't watch his stream. He has done spinecrawler rushes, baneling sniping PF through nydus, sick drop play, double spire action. He just does not think that playing gimmicky is his best chance to win important games when he has significant advantages over other players, like understanding of the MU, mechanics, macro.
Why doesn't he use burrowed banelings in zvt?
Because he thinks, that other players are competent enaugh to scan and he doesn't want to rely on suprise and trickery. He was saying that zergs need to use more burrowed banelings for very long time tho.
lol. Thanks for quoting a small portion of my post and answering it with something I've written in the next paragraph. I know what he has done but I also know what he does in tournaments against "real" opponents.
Scanning? Terrans scan the whole path when they do a marine tank push? Don't tell me something like that. It's not about burrowing banelings right at the edge of the creep. But for example just in front of their base. It's funny how 5 burrowed blings can kill a whole marine tank push and force the terran to just turn around and go home.
My main question is still not answered. Why is Sen more succesful than idra?
obv cause sen practices a shit ton more... theres a thing called cause -> efect
Meh. SEn made third in nasl, IdrA made fourth in MLG, I don't think you can in any way conclude that SEn's more succesful. They mostly play the same style, SEn's zvz is probably a bit better than IdrA's.
On July 14 2011 01:07 OrchidThief wrote: Meh. SEn made third in nasl, IdrA made fourth in MLG, I don't think you can in any way conclude that SEn's more succesful. They mostly play the same style, SEn's zvz is probably a bit better than IdrA's.
On July 14 2011 01:07 OrchidThief wrote: Meh. SEn made third in nasl, IdrA made fourth in MLG, I don't think you can in any way conclude that SEn's more succesful. They mostly play the same style, SEn's zvz is probably a bit better than IdrA's.
On July 14 2011 01:07 OrchidThief wrote: Meh. SEn made third in nasl, IdrA made fourth in MLG, I don't think you can in any way conclude that SEn's more succesful. They mostly play the same style, SEn's zvz is probably a bit better than IdrA's.
On July 13 2011 20:16 starsucks wrote: Idra is generally very good and precise at executing stuff while he lacks creativity and diversity in his playstyle.
This lack however seems to be not caused by a lack of skill but (mis)understanding of the game in which he believes that the classic, safe style is always superior. What other explaination could there be for showing multi pronged drops in zvp, Nydus and mass ling styles while he almost always sticks to classic stuff against top opponents.
Why doesn't he use burrowed banelings in zvt? Terran never uses Ravens and they just can't scan the whole path.
That being said I believe Idra would be a very good protoss in a very short time because he would be fine with standard stuff in pvz but the might have problems in pvp for example.
What makes Sen more succesful than idra at the moment? How can Sen just offrace as Protoss and be competitive against zergs?
Read the top of the goddamn thread. The first line is "This is not the "discuss Idra" thread", so stop trying to offer your not only pointless, but incorrect bull that you don't really understand. Get out of here.
On July 14 2011 01:07 OrchidThief wrote: Meh. SEn made third in nasl, IdrA made fourth in MLG, I don't think you can in any way conclude that SEn's more succesful. They mostly play the same style, SEn's zvz is probably a bit better than IdrA's.
On July 14 2011 01:07 OrchidThief wrote: Meh. SEn made third in nasl, IdrA made fourth in MLG, I don't think you can in any way conclude that SEn's more succesful. They mostly play the same style, SEn's zvz is probably a bit better than IdrA's.
My point was more that IdrA is probably objectively the more succesful player of the two. Also, the match-up statistics aren't very meaningful if you don't know the actual players they've played against, from my memory IdrA has played some pretty aweful zergs in various tourneys, where SEn has a lot of wins from great overall zerg players like Zenio and July.
On July 13 2011 20:16 starsucks wrote: Idra is generally very good and precise at executing stuff while he lacks creativity and diversity in his playstyle.
This lack however seems to be not caused by a lack of skill but (mis)understanding of the game in which he believes that the classic, safe style is always superior. What other explaination could there be for showing multi pronged drops in zvp, Nydus and mass ling styles while he almost always sticks to classic stuff against top opponents.
Why doesn't he use burrowed banelings in zvt? Terran never uses Ravens and they just can't scan the whole path.
That being said I believe Idra would be a very good protoss in a very short time because he would be fine with standard stuff in pvz but the might have problems in pvp for example.
What makes Sen more succesful than idra at the moment? How can Sen just offrace as Protoss and be competitive against zergs?
Read the top of the goddamn thread. The first line is "This is not the "discuss Idra" thread", so stop trying to offer your not only pointless, but incorrect bull that you don't really understand. Get out of here.
You read the top of the goddamn thread. Then try not to fail quite so miserably at quoting next time. Hint: "discuss" doesn't mean "diss"
Hint#2: Copy paste might be a better choice for you when quoting from now on. For example: "I don't want to completely ban any negative discussion about Idra, though"
Edit: I noticed something else, when putting quotes inside of quotes it is proper to alternate between singe and double quotation marks. It should look like: "This is not the 'discuss idra' thread" see how those quotation marks changed?
Isn't this website great? You can learn grammar and reading comprehension skills!
On July 13 2011 20:16 starsucks wrote: Idra is generally very good and precise at executing stuff while he lacks creativity and diversity in his playstyle.
This lack however seems to be not caused by a lack of skill but (mis)understanding of the game in which he believes that the classic, safe style is always superior. What other explaination could there be for showing multi pronged drops in zvp, Nydus and mass ling styles while he almost always sticks to classic stuff against top opponents.
Why doesn't he use burrowed banelings in zvt? Terran never uses Ravens and they just can't scan the whole path.
That being said I believe Idra would be a very good protoss in a very short time because he would be fine with standard stuff in pvz but the might have problems in pvp for example.
What makes Sen more succesful than idra at the moment? How can Sen just offrace as Protoss and be competitive against zergs?
Read the top of the goddamn thread. The first line is "This is not the "discuss Idra" thread", so stop trying to offer your not only pointless, but incorrect bull that you don't really understand. Get out of here.
You read the top of the goddamn thread. Then try not to fail quite so miserably at quoting next time. Hint: "discuss" doesn't mean "diss"
Hint#2: Copy paste might be a better choice for you when quoting from now on. For example: "I don't want to completely ban any negative discussion about Idra, though"
Edit: I noticed something else, when putting quotes inside of quotes it is proper to alternate between singe and double quotation marks. It should look like: "This is not the 'discuss idra' thread" see how those quotation marks changed?
Isn't this website great? You can learn grammar and reading comprehension skills!
meh he didnt noticed a mod editred it it used to say discuss idra then someone changed to diss