Thanks. Too bad you didn't catch the "Idra you idiot" sign as well, I absolutely loved it.
On June 09 2011 04:32 Torte de Lini wrote:
On June 08 2011 20:27 Tschis wrote:
On June 08 2011 11:02 Mailing wrote:
On June 08 2011 10:42 Tschis wrote: oh maaaaan
nicely executed strategy! idra is inovating!
amazing
IdrA was the first one doing hydra/spine pushes against protoss on small maps I think, but NesTea made the lair rush into spines against forge FE :D
Sorry! I didn't mean he was creating strategy! I just meant he is inovating in his play, doing stuff he's not known for xD
He used it against HuK on steppes of war. Check it out on an old Kingston Idra review~
Just because there were spinecrawlers involved it doesn't mean that it was the same strategy.
Did you check it out or are you just disagreeing?
I thought I remembered it well but now you made me question myself. I'm pretty sure it was an early midgame creep highway push and unrooting spinecrawlers from his expansion and not a ling push with building new spinecrawlers.
Thanks. Too bad you didn't catch the "Idra you idiot" sign as well, I absolutely loved it.
On June 09 2011 04:32 Torte de Lini wrote:
On June 08 2011 20:27 Tschis wrote:
On June 08 2011 11:02 Mailing wrote:
On June 08 2011 10:42 Tschis wrote: oh maaaaan
nicely executed strategy! idra is inovating!
amazing
IdrA was the first one doing hydra/spine pushes against protoss on small maps I think, but NesTea made the lair rush into spines against forge FE :D
Sorry! I didn't mean he was creating strategy! I just meant he is inovating in his play, doing stuff he's not known for xD
He used it against HuK on steppes of war. Check it out on an old Kingston Idra review~
Just because there were spinecrawlers involved it doesn't mean that it was the same strategy.
Did you check it out or are you just disagreeing?
I thought remembered it well but now you made me questioning myself. I'm pretty sure it was an early midgame creep highway push and unrooting spinecrawlers from his expansion and not a ling push with building new spinecrawlers.
He built the spines in order to push out with them.
Thanks. Too bad you didn't catch the "Idra you idiot" sign as well, I absolutely loved it.
On June 09 2011 04:32 Torte de Lini wrote:
On June 08 2011 20:27 Tschis wrote:
On June 08 2011 11:02 Mailing wrote:
On June 08 2011 10:42 Tschis wrote: oh maaaaan
nicely executed strategy! idra is inovating!
amazing
IdrA was the first one doing hydra/spine pushes against protoss on small maps I think, but NesTea made the lair rush into spines against forge FE :D
Sorry! I didn't mean he was creating strategy! I just meant he is inovating in his play, doing stuff he's not known for xD
He used it against HuK on steppes of war. Check it out on an old Kingston Idra review~
Just because there were spinecrawlers involved it doesn't mean that it was the same strategy.
Did you check it out or are you just disagreeing?
I thought remembered it well but now you made me questioning myself. I'm pretty sure it was an early midgame creep highway push and unrooting spinecrawlers from his expansion and not a ling push with building new spinecrawlers.
He built the spines in order to push out with them.
Although you are wrong - he built them to prepare for a gateway push before the hydras were out and afterwards utilised his investment in attack - let's pretend you are correct. What is your point exactly?
On June 09 2011 07:10 wei2coolman wrote: What is it with Idra's photos that always has his eyes w/ red pupils? Anyone else notice this? Is this the legendary Eye of the Gracken?
Thanks. Too bad you didn't catch the "Idra you idiot" sign as well, I absolutely loved it.
On June 09 2011 04:32 Torte de Lini wrote:
On June 08 2011 20:27 Tschis wrote:
On June 08 2011 11:02 Mailing wrote:
On June 08 2011 10:42 Tschis wrote: oh maaaaan
nicely executed strategy! idra is inovating!
amazing
IdrA was the first one doing hydra/spine pushes against protoss on small maps I think, but NesTea made the lair rush into spines against forge FE :D
Sorry! I didn't mean he was creating strategy! I just meant he is inovating in his play, doing stuff he's not known for xD
He used it against HuK on steppes of war. Check it out on an old Kingston Idra review~
Just because there were spinecrawlers involved it doesn't mean that it was the same strategy.
Did you check it out or are you just disagreeing?
I thought remembered it well but now you made me questioning myself. I'm pretty sure it was an early midgame creep highway push and unrooting spinecrawlers from his expansion and not a ling push with building new spinecrawlers.
He built the spines in order to push out with them.
Although you are wrong - he built them to prepare for a gateway push before the hydras were out and afterwards utilised his investment in attack - let's pretend you are correct. What is your point exactly?
If we are talking about the steppes of war vs huk thing, then the spines are part of the push and are used to abuse the terrain at the natural. It also wasn't his build, it was something people had been doing at least on the KR server since beta.
LMAO i actually just watched the vod of the last inside the game episode and some dude called and asked idra about cruncher making it to the championship bracket. idras response: "yeah he's shit, i didn't see any of his games but i heard axlav shit all over him and i dont know how he beat kiwi" i was rolling on the floor
If we are talking about the steppes of war vs huk thing, then the spines are part of the push and are used to abuse the terrain at the natural. It also wasn't his build, it was something people had been doing at least on the KR server since beta.
I wonder when the term "since beta" is going to become some kind of meme. Everything seems to have been done in beta. At least on the Korean server for sure.
If we are talking about the steppes of war vs huk thing, then the spines are part of the push and are used to abuse the terrain at the natural. It also wasn't his build, it was something people had been doing at least on the KR server since beta.
I wonder when the term "since beta" is going to become some kind of meme. Everything seems to have been done in beta. At least on the Korean server for sure.
I'm pretty sure I heard idra mention it, which is why I did. I don't have a source for that one, though.
Thanks. Too bad you didn't catch the "Idra you idiot" sign as well, I absolutely loved it.
On June 09 2011 04:32 Torte de Lini wrote:
On June 08 2011 20:27 Tschis wrote:
On June 08 2011 11:02 Mailing wrote:
On June 08 2011 10:42 Tschis wrote: oh maaaaan
nicely executed strategy! idra is inovating!
amazing
IdrA was the first one doing hydra/spine pushes against protoss on small maps I think, but NesTea made the lair rush into spines against forge FE :D
Sorry! I didn't mean he was creating strategy! I just meant he is inovating in his play, doing stuff he's not known for xD
He used it against HuK on steppes of war. Check it out on an old Kingston Idra review~
Just because there were spinecrawlers involved it doesn't mean that it was the same strategy.
Did you check it out or are you just disagreeing?
I thought remembered it well but now you made me questioning myself. I'm pretty sure it was an early midgame creep highway push and unrooting spinecrawlers from his expansion and not a ling push with building new spinecrawlers.
He built the spines in order to push out with them.
Although you are wrong - he built them to prepare for a gateway push before the hydras were out and afterwards utilised his investment in attack - let's pretend you are correct. What is your point exactly?
If we are talking about the steppes of war vs huk thing, then the spines are part of the push and are used to abuse the terrain at the natural. It also wasn't his build, it was something people had been doing at least on the KR server since beta.
And Spanishiwa didn't make his build, nor did NesTae make the lair rush into proxy spines.
It's the player that first uses a strategy successful in a major tourney that gets the credit for it, as it shows people that it's a viable ladder strategy.
Thanks. Too bad you didn't catch the "Idra you idiot" sign as well, I absolutely loved it.
On June 09 2011 04:32 Torte de Lini wrote:
On June 08 2011 20:27 Tschis wrote:
On June 08 2011 11:02 Mailing wrote: [quote]
IdrA was the first one doing hydra/spine pushes against protoss on small maps I think, but NesTea made the lair rush into spines against forge FE :D
Sorry! I didn't mean he was creating strategy! I just meant he is inovating in his play, doing stuff he's not known for xD
He used it against HuK on steppes of war. Check it out on an old Kingston Idra review~
Just because there were spinecrawlers involved it doesn't mean that it was the same strategy.
Did you check it out or are you just disagreeing?
I thought remembered it well but now you made me questioning myself. I'm pretty sure it was an early midgame creep highway push and unrooting spinecrawlers from his expansion and not a ling push with building new spinecrawlers.
He built the spines in order to push out with them.
Although you are wrong - he built them to prepare for a gateway push before the hydras were out and afterwards utilised his investment in attack - let's pretend you are correct. What is your point exactly?
If we are talking about the steppes of war vs huk thing, then the spines are part of the push and are used to abuse the terrain at the natural. It also wasn't his build, it was something people had been doing at least on the KR server since beta.
And Spanishiwa didn't make his build, nor did NesTae make the lair rush into proxy spines.
It's the player that first uses a strategy successful in a major tourney that gets the credit for it, as it shows people that it's a viable ladder strategy.
Spanishiwa has never used his strategy successfully in a major tourney. He just wrote a snazzy guide for it and was on the Day9 Daily.
Thanks. Too bad you didn't catch the "Idra you idiot" sign as well, I absolutely loved it.
On June 09 2011 04:32 Torte de Lini wrote:
On June 08 2011 20:27 Tschis wrote:
On June 08 2011 11:02 Mailing wrote:
On June 08 2011 10:42 Tschis wrote: oh maaaaan
nicely executed strategy! idra is inovating!
amazing
IdrA was the first one doing hydra/spine pushes against protoss on small maps I think, but NesTea made the lair rush into spines against forge FE :D
Sorry! I didn't mean he was creating strategy! I just meant he is inovating in his play, doing stuff he's not known for xD
He used it against HuK on steppes of war. Check it out on an old Kingston Idra review~
Just because there were spinecrawlers involved it doesn't mean that it was the same strategy.
Did you check it out or are you just disagreeing?
I thought remembered it well but now you made me questioning myself. I'm pretty sure it was an early midgame creep highway push and unrooting spinecrawlers from his expansion and not a ling push with building new spinecrawlers.
He built the spines in order to push out with them.
Although you are wrong - he built them to prepare for a gateway push before the hydras were out and afterwards utilised his investment in attack - let's pretend you are correct. What is your point exactly?
If we are talking about the steppes of war vs huk thing, then the spines are part of the push and are used to abuse the terrain at the natural. It also wasn't his build, it was something people had been doing at least on the KR server since beta.
I'm afraid I don't get your point as well. All I said was that "just because there were spinecrawlers involved it doesn't mean that it was the same strategy".
Thanks. Too bad you didn't catch the "Idra you idiot" sign as well, I absolutely loved it.
On June 09 2011 04:32 Torte de Lini wrote:
On June 08 2011 20:27 Tschis wrote:
On June 08 2011 11:02 Mailing wrote: [quote]
IdrA was the first one doing hydra/spine pushes against protoss on small maps I think, but NesTea made the lair rush into spines against forge FE :D
Sorry! I didn't mean he was creating strategy! I just meant he is inovating in his play, doing stuff he's not known for xD
He used it against HuK on steppes of war. Check it out on an old Kingston Idra review~
Just because there were spinecrawlers involved it doesn't mean that it was the same strategy.
Did you check it out or are you just disagreeing?
I thought remembered it well but now you made me questioning myself. I'm pretty sure it was an early midgame creep highway push and unrooting spinecrawlers from his expansion and not a ling push with building new spinecrawlers.
He built the spines in order to push out with them.
Although you are wrong - he built them to prepare for a gateway push before the hydras were out and afterwards utilised his investment in attack - let's pretend you are correct. What is your point exactly?
If we are talking about the steppes of war vs huk thing, then the spines are part of the push and are used to abuse the terrain at the natural. It also wasn't his build, it was something people had been doing at least on the KR server since beta.
I'm afraid I don't get your point as well. All I said was that "just because there were spinecrawlers involved it doesn't mean that it was the same strategy".
It was difficult to follow the giant cascade of quotes, was what I quoted not about whether or not the spines idra built in the huk game were defensive or offensive?
So, regarding the games against VPSuppy on yesterday's stream, what was IdrA's beef with him? I know that the series against F91 was a major upset, but what did he mean with "one of the little shits"?
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