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[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
April 03 2011 12:20 GMT
#6441
lol obv none of them should get dq'd. But idra haters were mentioning hes bm and all this that he shouldnt do that in mlg and im sure there is a rule against that chat. And there is so if u wanna follow it then huk would dq'd but i doubt anyone wants to follow the rules that hard lol

sorry if that didnt make sense im kinda drunk atm
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
TheDefinition
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden41 Posts
April 03 2011 12:32 GMT
#6442
I'm happy that this didn't happen in a match where anything mattered, and I hope Idra learns something from this.

By the way, I really, really like his new playstyle. Here's for hoping he continues with it.
Make expand, not war
iLLKiD
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany72 Posts
April 03 2011 12:34 GMT
#6443
On April 03 2011 21:18 Tommie wrote:
Idra should get the mental blockade of ZvP out of his head and start using his skill. He was winning the second game and he was in HuK's face all the time. Idra just tilts when he sees the deathball and he stops thinking. The Broodlord + ling+ infestor combo was beautiful. Idra you are the most entertaining zerg to watch, by far. But the bad manners and unprofessional attitude will cost you games and fans in the long run. It is so much more intimidating to play an opponent who is cool as hell and never speaks than to play a game against a guy who tilts.


Most entertaining? What about July or Leenock?

Idra's ragemania is really starting to backfire.

VfB
wshm
Profile Joined September 2010
32 Posts
April 03 2011 12:37 GMT
#6444
well, if he couldn't win vs huk I really don't see him doing anything vs naniwa.
and that makes me sad
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
April 03 2011 12:39 GMT
#6445
On April 03 2011 20:48 Samhax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 20:00 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On April 03 2011 18:28 Samhax wrote:
On April 03 2011 17:54 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On April 03 2011 15:09 Gotmog wrote:
I think it was over anyway...

He didn't have ANYTHING left with which to remax...
~300/300 resources...can't do anything with that.

I just watched that games ... Idra is such a beast. I don't even care anymore if he is winning his games or not. He is outclassing his opponents by such a huge margin.
If blizz ever balances out zerg, they will have to balance it out specially for Idra, there is maybe 3 ppl in Eu/NA who can compete with him. (in a balanced, less volatile game)

this is so true. when you watch the small stuff, holy mother of god hes good!!

When zergs balanced, fuckings tourny wins left right and center. his skill level is lightyears ahead of any terrans or protoss's


This game is not about mechanics and will never be, if he wants to outplay people with his mechanic then he has to quit sc2 and return in bw. It's all about outsmarting your opponent, try to take an advantage and secure it.

mechanics are still a HUGE part of the game. If you get an advantage, how to you punish your opponent for it? flawless mechanics.

and its not as if he just follows BO to a t and doesnt think. Hes smart and knows the game.


I didn't say mechanics are not part of the game or he isn't smart. Obviously Idra is a great player no doubt about that. But at pro lvl, everybody has great mechanics (in sc2) and game sens.

But in sc2 with the actual state of the game you cannot think i'm gonna beat X top player player with my flawless mechanics, it's just completely wrong, the game has not a huge skill ceiling, so you have to find other ways to win against top players and not just ima outmacro him or outmultitask him, etc.

It could be true with a game with huge skill cap like bw, but not in sc2. So i think if Idra wants to become the top of the top he has to more analyse the players he faces, identify their style and weakness and prepare for it and not just think he can beat them with pure skill, game sens, etc.

he has to change his mindset.

my 2 cents

The skill cieling in sc2 is as high as in BW.. just atm balance is a bit funky and BO's arent completely sorted out. when a bit more balancing occurs and strat counters are figured out, whats going to seperate the best player from the 2nd best? mechanics.

Saying that sc2 has a low skill cap is silly, it still takes over 400apm to play flawlessly. Even the koreans are playing pretty poorly atm. (compared to BW) when we see players get A LOT better, youll start to see mechanics deciding games, and mechanics seperating the best from the rest
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Vetrocide
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway600 Posts
April 03 2011 12:51 GMT
#6446
On April 03 2011 20:51 juicy wrote:
I feel bad for IdrA; it was pretty inevitable that his attitude would lead to something like this eventually, I know he's by far the better player though. Tough break Greg, knock him out of the park tomorrow

screenshot here for anyone who missed it

[image loading]


its shopped for anyone who missed it.

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The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal
Almin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States583 Posts
April 03 2011 12:54 GMT
#6447
On April 03 2011 21:51 Vetrocide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 20:51 juicy wrote:
I feel bad for IdrA; it was pretty inevitable that his attitude would lead to something like this eventually, I know he's by far the better player though. Tough break Greg, knock him out of the park tomorrow

screenshot here for anyone who missed it

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


its shopped for anyone who missed it.

But Huk & Idra actually said that stuff, I don't get what you're trying to say lol.
Samhax
Profile Joined August 2010
1054 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 12:59:04
April 03 2011 12:57 GMT
#6448
On April 03 2011 21:39 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 20:48 Samhax wrote:
On April 03 2011 20:00 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On April 03 2011 18:28 Samhax wrote:
On April 03 2011 17:54 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On April 03 2011 15:09 Gotmog wrote:
I think it was over anyway...

He didn't have ANYTHING left with which to remax...
~300/300 resources...can't do anything with that.

I just watched that games ... Idra is such a beast. I don't even care anymore if he is winning his games or not. He is outclassing his opponents by such a huge margin.
If blizz ever balances out zerg, they will have to balance it out specially for Idra, there is maybe 3 ppl in Eu/NA who can compete with him. (in a balanced, less volatile game)

this is so true. when you watch the small stuff, holy mother of god hes good!!

When zergs balanced, fuckings tourny wins left right and center. his skill level is lightyears ahead of any terrans or protoss's


This game is not about mechanics and will never be, if he wants to outplay people with his mechanic then he has to quit sc2 and return in bw. It's all about outsmarting your opponent, try to take an advantage and secure it.

mechanics are still a HUGE part of the game. If you get an advantage, how to you punish your opponent for it? flawless mechanics.

and its not as if he just follows BO to a t and doesnt think. Hes smart and knows the game.


I didn't say mechanics are not part of the game or he isn't smart. Obviously Idra is a great player no doubt about that. But at pro lvl, everybody has great mechanics (in sc2) and game sens.

But in sc2 with the actual state of the game you cannot think i'm gonna beat X top player player with my flawless mechanics, it's just completely wrong, the game has not a huge skill ceiling, so you have to find other ways to win against top players and not just ima outmacro him or outmultitask him, etc.

It could be true with a game with huge skill cap like bw, but not in sc2. So i think if Idra wants to become the top of the top he has to more analyse the players he faces, identify their style and weakness and prepare for it and not just think he can beat them with pure skill, game sens, etc.

he has to change his mindset.

my 2 cents

The skill cieling in sc2 is as high as in BW..


Lol ok, i can't argue with you anymore, you won
Calas
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom33 Posts
April 03 2011 13:00 GMT
#6449
It looks like IdrA's preemptive leaving of a lost game finally kicked him in the behind. A shame, he was way ahead.
KvltMan
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1609 Posts
April 03 2011 13:03 GMT
#6450
Ok, so I got the brackets a little bit wrong:
EG.IdrA vs Ret/Huk/Sheth/qxc - This can go either way, a HuK re-match would be great, and pretty fair for Greg. Otherwise, I think he's pretty safe, he's stomped qxc everytime they've met, and his zvz is really great.
Get crunk
Calas
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom33 Posts
April 03 2011 13:06 GMT
#6451
On April 03 2011 22:03 KvltMan wrote:
Ok, so I got the brackets a little bit wrong:
EG.IdrA vs Ret/Huk/Sheth/qxc - This can go either way, a HuK re-match would be great, and pretty fair for Greg. Otherwise, I think he's pretty safe, he's stomped qxc everytime they've met, and his zvz is really great.

I think IdrA would do really well in a game against HuK, unless he lets those previous games phase him. I mean, he would have 2-0'd HuK in that other set if not for having left when he had already pretty much won. He was ripping HuK to pieces with harassment everywhere. It looks like IdrA has really learnt how to dismantle a 200/200 Protoss deathball, and I think that is what HuK is best at, really.
diverzee
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden992 Posts
April 03 2011 13:08 GMT
#6452
Don't see what's wrong with Idra's approach to the game. His mechanics and macro is flawless, something which isn't true for all progamers. It is only against protoss he has this problem, as his ZvT and ZvZ are both very good. There must be room to express individual style in Starcraft 2, and Idra is playing according to what playstyle he is comfortable with. The problem is protoss simply has such an advantage now against zerg that zerg players must severly outplay their opponent to survive. Thus Idra is brought outside of his comfort zone, forced into a playstyle which isn't comfortable to him.

Also, the premature ragequit on the meta game was bad, but also an example of how Idra unlike some players doesn't just drag losing games out in absurdum wasting his and the viewers' time. In a way Idra respects his opponents more than others do, as he expects them never to lose if they've gotten a giant advantage, so he quits instead.
Parting
Calas
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom33 Posts
April 03 2011 13:10 GMT
#6453
On April 03 2011 22:08 diverzee wrote:
In a way Idra respects his opponents more than others dogiant advantage, so he quits instead.

I agree with all other parts with you, but this part just made me laugh. I'm pretty sure IdrA and HuK have a pretty strong rivalry between each other, and not the friendly kind either.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
April 03 2011 13:15 GMT
#6454
On April 03 2011 22:10 Calas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 22:08 diverzee wrote:
In a way Idra respects his opponents more than others dogiant advantage, so he quits instead.

I agree with all other parts with you, but this part just made me laugh. I'm pretty sure IdrA and HuK have a pretty strong rivalry between each other, and not the friendly kind either.


At least IdrA keeps it to himself and doesn't get into HuKs face with it during games.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Leach
Profile Joined December 2010
United States536 Posts
April 03 2011 13:15 GMT
#6455
On April 03 2011 21:51 Vetrocide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 20:51 juicy wrote:
I feel bad for IdrA; it was pretty inevitable that his attitude would lead to something like this eventually, I know he's by far the better player though. Tough break Greg, knock him out of the park tomorrow

screenshot here for anyone who missed it

[image loading]


its shopped for anyone who missed it.



It's not, you can download the replay -.-

http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/140-22322.html

It's game 3 at ~min 1
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 13:20:57
April 03 2011 13:17 GMT
#6456
On April 03 2011 20:28 Tyree wrote:
Many of you arent doing Greg a favour by always finding excuses, loopholes and ways he can get wins (Lets DQ Huk guys!!) when that is not the root of the problem and it wont help him become better.

He seems like the most fragile player in the world and so easy to upset, for a "BM King" when the reverse happens he seems to buckle down under pressure and lose it.

I hope iNcontrol or someone at EG grabs him and simply lays it down on him. If you truly want this guy to become the best he needs to desperatly improve his mentality, which seems made of glass at this point.



So I heard Greg reads each and every post on here. He personally thanks each and every fan club member for finding "excuses" and "loopholes" so he can purposely lose games. No he doesn't read each and every post nor does he care when people 'BM' him. Him losing hurts him as much as it hurts us if not more because he's the only one who could of changed the outcome of the game. Stop making assumptions based on outright stupid information.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
dafnay
Profile Joined May 2010
Angola375 Posts
April 03 2011 13:19 GMT
#6457
On April 03 2011 21:51 Vetrocide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 20:51 juicy wrote:
I feel bad for IdrA; it was pretty inevitable that his attitude would lead to something like this eventually, I know he's by far the better player though. Tough break Greg, knock him out of the park tomorrow

screenshot here for anyone who missed it

[image loading]


its shopped for anyone who missed it.


NOT ....
mlm
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria164 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 14:30:33
April 03 2011 14:06 GMT
#6458
Hey guys, after yesterday game and after seeing everyone so worked up about it. I came up with this lyrics (to the music of Bon Jovi's Always:
) about IdrA

This zergling is bleeding but you can't see his blood
It's nothing but some feeling that it's a bunker rush

It's been imbalance since you left the beta
Now I'm droning with a fear
You see i've been a fighter, but with zerg UP, I gg
I can't play macro game like the way it's meant to be
Well I guess I'm not that good anymore but baby, that's just zerg

Chorus:
But I will play Zerg, baby, always
I'll play zerg forever and a day, always
I'll play it till the Queen stops inject, till the hatchery bursts and the roach gets lifted
And I know when I die, I'll be with the Overmind
And I'll love you always

Now the dying broods you left behind
Are just memories of what used to be a spire
Some mutas hatched, other mutas died
Some made it into opponent's mineral line
What I'd give to have more hydralisks, and they have EMP
When I say my prayers, try to understand
I've made mistakes, I'm just a man

When he went voidrays, when he showed colo
When he said that they were just hallucinating
I wished I was him, 'cause the game was mine
But I gg'ed out now I do regret

But I will play zerg, baby, always
And I'll be there forever and a day, always

If you told me to cheese for you, I could
If you told me to gg for you, I would
Take a look at this Gracken, there's no price they won't pay
To hear gg from me.

Well there ain't no luck
In these loaded matchups
But baby if you give me just one more try
I can pack up my BO with my own timings
We'll find a time where he make mistakes.

Would be nice if someone can record it into a song IdrA fighting!
Faria
Profile Joined February 2011
155 Posts
April 03 2011 14:22 GMT
#6459
On April 03 2011 17:29 Ohdamn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 16:02 LastLordofCastamere wrote:
Just posting to declare my allegiance to the Gracken, Best zerg outside of Korea!

i'm quoting that to show that i feel the same!


Just quoting this quoted quote to show I also feel the same!
^-^
ibreakurface
Profile Joined June 2010
United States664 Posts
April 03 2011 14:43 GMT
#6460
On April 03 2011 21:39 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 20:48 Samhax wrote:
On April 03 2011 20:00 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On April 03 2011 18:28 Samhax wrote:
On April 03 2011 17:54 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On April 03 2011 15:09 Gotmog wrote:
I think it was over anyway...

He didn't have ANYTHING left with which to remax...
~300/300 resources...can't do anything with that.

I just watched that games ... Idra is such a beast. I don't even care anymore if he is winning his games or not. He is outclassing his opponents by such a huge margin.
If blizz ever balances out zerg, they will have to balance it out specially for Idra, there is maybe 3 ppl in Eu/NA who can compete with him. (in a balanced, less volatile game)

this is so true. when you watch the small stuff, holy mother of god hes good!!

When zergs balanced, fuckings tourny wins left right and center. his skill level is lightyears ahead of any terrans or protoss's


This game is not about mechanics and will never be, if he wants to outplay people with his mechanic then he has to quit sc2 and return in bw. It's all about outsmarting your opponent, try to take an advantage and secure it.

mechanics are still a HUGE part of the game. If you get an advantage, how to you punish your opponent for it? flawless mechanics.

and its not as if he just follows BO to a t and doesnt think. Hes smart and knows the game.


I didn't say mechanics are not part of the game or he isn't smart. Obviously Idra is a great player no doubt about that. But at pro lvl, everybody has great mechanics (in sc2) and game sens.

But in sc2 with the actual state of the game you cannot think i'm gonna beat X top player player with my flawless mechanics, it's just completely wrong, the game has not a huge skill ceiling, so you have to find other ways to win against top players and not just ima outmacro him or outmultitask him, etc.

It could be true with a game with huge skill cap like bw, but not in sc2. So i think if Idra wants to become the top of the top he has to more analyse the players he faces, identify their style and weakness and prepare for it and not just think he can beat them with pure skill, game sens, etc.

he has to change his mindset.

my 2 cents

The skill cieling in sc2 is as high as in BW.. just atm balance is a bit funky and BO's arent completely sorted out. when a bit more balancing occurs and strat counters are figured out, whats going to seperate the best player from the 2nd best? mechanics.

Saying that sc2 has a low skill cap is silly, it still takes over 400apm to play flawlessly. Even the koreans are playing pretty poorly atm. (compared to BW) when we see players get A LOT better, youll start to see mechanics deciding games, and mechanics seperating the best from the rest

TROOOOLLLLLLL.


BW is much harder than SC2, the mechanics alone prove that. To just macro properly it requires much more practice and skill. Unit AI is retarded as well in BW making micro much harder, and requires much more knowledge of the game.
:) I play zerg. FOX AND KT ROLSTER COASTER FAN! Because I love everyone. Except bisu.
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