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rave[wcr]
United States1166 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On April 03 2011 18:28 Samhax wrote: This game is not about mechanics and will never be, if he wants to outplay people with his mechanic then he has to quit sc2 and return in bw. It's all about outsmarting your opponent, try to take an advantage and secure it. You really believe that? I'm pretty sure people said the same about bw especially when bigger maps first got introduced and people were saying its going to be imba for x race and turned out not to be.` I wouldn't be surprised if in many years from now (after the 2 expansions) and the games "figured" out I would not be surprised if it went better mechanics and you'll win most of the time. Of course that might not ever happen and thats assuming the game is competitive for that long (which I pray to god I hope so). But yeah I can see you being wrong about it not ever happening ^_^. | ||
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Samhax
1054 Posts
On April 03 2011 19:01 blade55555 wrote: You really believe that? I'm pretty sure people said the same about bw especially when bigger maps first got introduced and people were saying its going to be imba for x race and turned out not to be.` I wouldn't be surprised if in many years from now (after the 2 expansions) and the games "figured" out I would not be surprised if it went better mechanics and you'll win most of the time. Of course that might not ever happen and thats assuming the game is competitive for that long (which I pray to god I hope so). But yeah I can see you being wrong about it not ever happening ^_^. There is one case where the mechanic could become very important, If the game evolve (with extensions and new units, new micro tricks or more harass based gameplay ) and become an intensive micro game. Because you know that the macro will never be a mechanic issue for the top lvl, the skill cap is too low in this area of the game at pro lvl. Conclusion : We are far away from this state of the game, so i might be right for maybe 1 or 2 years | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On April 03 2011 17:49 Mailing wrote: "threw him off"? Nothing threw idra off game 3, he simply lost to a build he did not have the units to defend in time. it was like 10 sentries and 7 stalkers vs 14 roaches, and an observer came When you're being taunted hardcore in chat ("LOL"), you have the right to be thrown off. He clearly wasn't playing his best in the last game. What HuK did was utterly childish. On TL, doing something equivalent to this (taunting sombebody you just beat with fullcaps LOL) would spell insta ban. I'm really sad that HuK won this series, and really hope to see a rematch today, with IdrA powering through him ! :D | ||
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Junichi
Germany1056 Posts
Since tl.net can bee seen as a quite good represantation of interested sc2 fans, it seems like a good indicator of how interesting he actually is. (Of course judging only by the views of his fanclub thread is overly simplified, but I still think it is a valuable indicator.) Fully@Topic: Go IdrA! Hope you still can win MLG. Down with the protoss!  :D | ||
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ABOOMAN
Burma156 Posts
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
On April 03 2011 18:28 Samhax wrote: This game is not about mechanics and will never be, if he wants to outplay people with his mechanic then he has to quit sc2 and return in bw. It's all about outsmarting your opponent, try to take an advantage and secure it. mechanics are still a HUGE part of the game. If you get an advantage, how to you punish your opponent for it? flawless mechanics. and its not as if he just follows BO to a t and doesnt think. Hes smart and knows the game. | ||
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Liquin
Sweden168 Posts
On April 03 2011 14:06 crms wrote: lol! so not only do they have an awful stream they don't enforce the rules. I was curious at the time if there was any rule about chatting and there you have it. Kind of lame nothing was done. He should indeed be disqualified. MLG is nothing but the worst tournament out there at the moment. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7028 Posts
It's still a bit silly for Idra to leave without saying "gg" in g2, and then to have fans complaining about HuK's bad manner in g3 though! It's as if IdrA has a license to do these sort of things and you can't complain about them anymore. e: And yeah, IdrA should definitely complain about HuK's rulebreaking.He can easily attest to having been affected by HuK's comment in g3, making him lose focus and such. I think it's silly to disallow chat myself, but it is clearly stated in the rules, so it would be fair in that sense. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On April 03 2011 19:31 mr_tolkien wrote: When you're being taunted hardcore in chat ("LOL"), you have the right to be thrown off. He clearly wasn't playing his best in the last game. What HuK did was utterly childish. On TL, doing something equivalent to this (taunting sombebody you just beat with fullcaps LOL) would spell insta ban. I'm really sad that HuK won this series, and really hope to see a rematch today, with IdrA powering through him ! :D I'm pretty sure the LOL actually was a reaction to the "fuck off". | ||
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Sarang
Australia2363 Posts
On April 03 2011 19:31 mr_tolkien wrote: When you're being taunted hardcore in chat ("LOL"), you have the right to be thrown off. He clearly wasn't playing his best in the last game. What HuK did was utterly childish. On TL, doing something equivalent to this (taunting sombebody you just beat with fullcaps LOL) would spell insta ban. I'm really sad that HuK won this series, and really hope to see a rematch today, with IdrA powering through him ! :D You guys who are all up in arms about HuK's "BM" - are you forgetting what IdrA said to CrunCher after game 2 of their TSL series? If you think HuK was childish, then you must think the same of IdrA, right? Come ON guys. IdrA is BM to people. People are BM to IdrA. Do you really think IdrA gets all pissy when someone BM's him? Of course not, so why should we? | ||
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Tyree
1508 Posts
He seems like the most fragile player in the world and so easy to upset, for a "BM King" when the reverse happens he seems to buckle down under pressure and lose it. I hope iNcontrol or someone at EG grabs him and simply lays it down on him. If you truly want this guy to become the best he needs to desperatly improve his mentality, which seems made of glass at this point. | ||
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andy186
Australia1058 Posts
We also need to stop letting all the psychologists into this thread. I didn't know we had that many people who knew so much about how to observe someones mental state from reactions within a game. Hope idra can continue on and do really well in the rest of the tournament. good luck to him. | ||
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enliveee
United Kingdom52 Posts
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Samhax
1054 Posts
On April 03 2011 20:00 L3g3nd_ wrote: mechanics are still a HUGE part of the game. If you get an advantage, how to you punish your opponent for it? flawless mechanics. and its not as if he just follows BO to a t and doesnt think. Hes smart and knows the game. I didn't say mechanics are not part of the game or he isn't smart. Obviously Idra is a great player no doubt about that. But at pro lvl, everybody has great mechanics (in sc2) and game sens. But in sc2 with the actual state of the game you cannot think i'm gonna beat X top player player with my flawless mechanics, it's just completely wrong, the game has not a huge skill ceiling, so you have to find other ways to win against top players and not just ima outmacro him or outmultitask him, etc. It could be true with a game with huge skill cap like bw, but not in sc2. So i think if Idra wants to become the top of the top he has to more analyse the players he faces, identify their style and weakness and prepare for it and not just think he can beat them with pure skill, game sens, etc. he has to change his mindset. my 2 cents | ||
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juicy
Australia145 Posts
screenshot here for anyone who missed it ![[image loading]](http://i56.tinypic.com/2upcxo7.jpg) | ||
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Usagi
Spain1647 Posts
Wonder if typing english for koreans really affects your english skills when you have to chat with someone who is not a korean xD | ||
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Applezzz
United States14 Posts
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Erandorr
2283 Posts
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Tommie
China658 Posts
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