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HellionDrop
281 Posts
On May 22 2012 03:39 CeriseCherries wrote: guys we arent looking at the positive side... IdrA can beat Flash now (in SC2) :D not sure about that , granted Flash may not be on code S/A level right now, but its not like idra is. | ||
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-Kira
352 Posts
On May 22 2012 04:14 HellionDrop wrote: not sure about that , granted Flash may not be on code S/A level right now, but its not like idra is. You realize Flash is mid masters in KR? | ||
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bakarofl
49 Posts
Sorry but Idra's main strength is in his mechanics and straight up macro play Flash still has the superior edge in mechanics and multitasking on that end It would be different if Idra was more of a clever/creative type of player that could abuse Flash's lack of SC2 knowledge but.... he's not. | ||
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McPhiz
Canada183 Posts
On May 22 2012 04:23 bakarofl wrote: Sorry but Idra's main strength is in his mechanics and straight up macro play Flash still has the superior edge in mechanics and multitasking on that end It would be different if Idra was more of a clever/creative type of player that could abuse Flash's lack of SC2 knowledge but.... he's not. Idra could still abuse flash's lack of knowledge about the game due to the fact that he has more knowledge though, you don't need to be clever and creative to do that. Im sure idra could still hold a GM account in Korea too. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On May 22 2012 04:23 bakarofl wrote: Sorry but Idra's main strength is in his mechanics and straight up macro play Flash still has the superior edge in mechanics and multitasking on that end It would be different if Idra was more of a clever/creative type of player that could abuse Flash's lack of SC2 knowledge but.... he's not. didnt he play against a Zerg in PL and just sit back and let the macro till he got crushed? dont underestimate the Sc2 pros the BW pros arent close to even foreigners in SC2 yet | ||
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bakarofl
49 Posts
On May 22 2012 04:28 McPhiz wrote: Idra could still abuse flash's lack of knowledge about the game due to the fact that he has more knowledge though, you don't need to be clever and creative to do that. Im sure idra could still hold a GM account in Korea too. Has he ever held a GM account in KR though? I only see him in midmasters himself and with a barely 50% win rate at that. If he tries to cheese early on he could probably take several games off Flash, but seeing how he's one of the most stubborn players out there he'd probably try to just play a straight up macro game.. which would end poorly. | ||
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RoieTRS
United States2569 Posts
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
On May 22 2012 04:35 bakarofl wrote: Has he ever held a GM account in KR though? I only see him in midmasters himself and with a barely 50% win rate at that. If he tries to cheese early on he could probably take several games off Flash, but seeing how he's one of the most stubborn players out there he'd probably try to just play a straight up macro game.. which would end poorly. Yes, Idra has been Korean GM.... Yes, Idra has better SC2 mechanics than Flash... Yes, Idra could beat Flash with something else than cheese, cus Flash is not God at SC2, and Idra is way more knowledgeable | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
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bakarofl
49 Posts
On May 22 2012 04:37 Aocowns wrote: Yes, Idra has been Korean GM.... Yes, Idra has better SC2 mechanics than Flash... Yes, Idra could beat Flash with something else than cheese, cus Flash is not God at SC2, and Idra is way more knowledgeable Obviously Flash isn't a god at SC2. He's not even close. But you're talking about an Idra that has never had a winrate over 60% on the Korean server and hasn't won a series in almost 6 months... | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
On May 22 2012 04:42 bakarofl wrote: Obviously Flash isn't a god at SC2. He's not even close. But you're talking about an Idra that has never had a winrate over 60% on the Korean server and hasn't won a series in almost 6 months... We're talking about a long respected SC2 pro who is having a bad time vs a midmaster terran with a big name. I don't see anyone but Idra taking that. Naturally, Flash could take some games with fancy timings and crisp execution but that is the way of SC2 | ||
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PandaMonk
United States300 Posts
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
On May 22 2012 05:08 PandaMonk wrote: IdrA outclasses all sc1 pros in sc2 atm (most likely, maybe a toss could take him in a bo7). He has better sc2 mechanics (sc1 mechanics dont translate quite as quickly and smoothly as you would think). If you watch the vods of Flash, hes not that impressive, he's good, but not a God. Hopefully the bw pros will get better (obv they will...), and so will IdrA!~ well who knows... the bw toss seem strong... lol that carriers game in PL tho.. honestly Roro just had no idea what he was doing | ||
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ThePlayer33
Australia2378 Posts
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LingBlingMuta
United States382 Posts
On May 22 2012 06:31 ThePlayer33 wrote: whens next tourney cant wait MLG Anaheim(hiem?) | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On May 22 2012 05:08 PandaMonk wrote: IdrA outclasses all sc1 pros in sc2 atm (most likely, maybe a toss could take him in a bo7). He has better sc2 mechanics (sc1 mechanics dont translate quite as quickly and smoothly as you would think). If you watch the vods of Flash, hes not that impressive, he's good, but not a God. Hopefully the bw pros will get better (obv they will...), and so will IdrA!~ he was never a god :D. But I disagree with you, if you watch their play their multi tasking and mechanics are top notch (most of them). Their money is always low and they react to drops, etc instantly. I don't know where you get this idea that idra has better mechanics as I don't think so. I do think Idra would beat most of the current bw players due to decision making, not falling behind on mechanics either. I give it 6 months before we really know how good they are though, but from what I have seen I can only imagine ^_^ | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On May 22 2012 06:55 blade55555 wrote: he was never a god :D. But I disagree with you, if you watch their play their multi tasking and mechanics are top notch (most of them). Their money is always low and they react to drops, etc instantly. I don't know where you get this idea that idra has better mechanics as I don't think so. I do think Idra would beat most of the current bw players due to decision making, not falling behind on mechanics either. I give it 6 months before we really know how good they are though, but from what I have seen I can only imagine ^_^ tehyll definently BE amazing because of there experience in BW but currently they arent close to being amazing | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
On May 22 2012 06:55 blade55555 wrote: he was never a god :D. But I disagree with you, if you watch their play their multi tasking and mechanics are top notch (most of them). Their money is always low and they react to drops, etc instantly. I don't know where you get this idea that idra has better mechanics as I don't think so. I do think Idra would beat most of the current bw players due to decision making, not falling behind on mechanics either. I give it 6 months before we really know how good they are though, but from what I have seen I can only imagine ^_^ I haven't seen much play from the BW guys bar the video of Flash playing, but I have a hard time seeing how they can adapt so quickly to SC2's interface, game mechanics, response times etc. Perhaps I am underestimating them though ^^ btw, I love your Baneling ZvP o.o Tried it out a few games on ladder, won them all <3 | ||
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LingBlingMuta
United States382 Posts
On May 22 2012 07:09 Aocowns wrote: I haven't seen much play from the BW guys bar the video of Flash playing, but I have a hard time seeing how they can adapt so quickly to SC2's interface, game mechanics, response times etc. Perhaps I am underestimating them though ^^ btw, I love your Baneling ZvP o.o Tried it out a few games on ladder, won them all <3 The Effort vs Flash game was really not that bad. Effort is definately going to be a top notch zerg, and you can only expect Flash to be great as well. Mark my words though, Effort WILL BE a top 5 zerg by the end of this year. It was nice seeing someone use my namesake to such a beautiful degree. He played hyper aggresive with strong macro. I loved it. Brought back memories of IdrA using it | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On May 22 2012 07:09 Aocowns wrote: I haven't seen much play from the BW guys bar the video of Flash playing, but I have a hard time seeing how they can adapt so quickly to SC2's interface, game mechanics, response times etc. Perhaps I am underestimating them though ^^ btw, I love your Baneling ZvP o.o Tried it out a few games on ladder, won them all <3 theyve been playing for probably a couple months now its not like they started last week | ||
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