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sereniity
Sweden1159 Posts
On November 06 2011 02:30 NKsc2 wrote: Not to take anything away from idra but no koreans was there. Sase, Naniwa, Stephano etc wasn't there. Still tho, a win is a win ^^ Gz !! roughly translated to: "not to take anyting away but I'm gonna take some of it away" ........ | ||
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KvltMan
Sweden1609 Posts
On November 06 2011 03:10 Vapaach wrote: I am the guy holding this sign and the one who made it ^^ I guess I could clarify that the upper text is "you may have drops but Idra has mutas" and the lower is "p.s ghost imba" I thought the text was quite clear but apparently not. Idra is such a nice guy even though he has a BM reputation. So happy that he won today. Lol, the sign just got so much better now that I know what it all said! <3 | ||
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AidoS
71 Posts
On November 06 2011 02:30 NKsc2 wrote: Not to take anything away from idra but no koreans was there. Sase, Naniwa, Stephano etc wasn't there. Still tho, a win is a win ^^ Gz !! so select isnt a korean? puhh and i thought so... but anywho congrats idra ♥ and sign me up to this fanclub!!! | ||
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Sedz
Australia123 Posts
On November 06 2011 02:30 NKsc2 wrote: Not to take anything away from idra but no koreans was there. Sase, Naniwa, Stephano etc wasn't there. Still tho, a win is a win ^^ Gz !! Right so, you're retarded yeah? First you claim to not take anything away from IdrA, then continue to do so, then completely disregard the talent that was at the tournament. Select: Korean, Taken games off MVP, one of the best foreign terrans HuK: Needs no explanation, top3 protoss in the world and top2 foreigner White-Ra: Top European protoss, won IPL2, does quite well for himself Dimaga: Top European zerg, beast. Elfi: Yeah ok, this guy's not that great, but he's still not terrible by any means (3-1'd HuK) Sjow: See above Ret: Also top european zerg, macro monster, great player, easily one of the best foreigners Before you talk you should probably do your research, just because someone doesn't have a korean team prefix before their name it doesn't mean they're terrible and just because they're not an icon of community hype it doesn't mean they're terrible either. User was warned for this post | ||
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Rokevo
Finland1033 Posts
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Micket
United Kingdom2163 Posts
Idra's injects are not better than the other good Zergs out there, but he seems to be so unstoppable in a macro game. How is he so good? What am I not seeing? | ||
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Sedz
Australia123 Posts
On November 06 2011 03:36 Micket wrote: I am really confused. Idra only ever has 3 queens for injects, floats minerals and is gas starved, yet always has more than what other Zergs have. Select cannot move across the map without dying yet vs Dimaga, he had the map control, he was harassing, he was calling the shots. Idra's injects are not better than the other good Zergs out there, but he seems to be so unstoppable in a macro game. How is he so good? What am I not seeing? What are you not seeing? The game obviously. /facepalm You're terrible. User was banned for this post. | ||
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CptObv1ous
Luxembourg90 Posts
On November 06 2011 03:39 Sedz wrote: What are you not seeing? The game obviously. /facepalm You're terrible. Wow, that response was absolutely uncalled for. I don´t know what horse you´re on, but his question seems legit. Idra rocks and Im really happy about that , yet I can understand that one does´nt necessarily understand how he does it. | ||
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damod
1106 Posts
On November 06 2011 03:39 Sedz wrote: What are you not seeing? The game obviously. /facepalm You're terrible. Whoa dude no need to insult. guy simply asked a question ;O | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
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Micket
United Kingdom2163 Posts
On November 06 2011 03:39 Sedz wrote: What are you not seeing? The game obviously. /facepalm You're terrible. I can see Idra is winning, but I don't see what part of his game makes his macro tiers above other Zerg players. He becomes this unharrasable macro monster, even though his mechanics aren't necessarily superior to someone like Ret or Dimaga. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
On November 06 2011 03:36 Micket wrote: I am really confused. Idra only ever has 3 queens for injects, floats minerals and is gas starved, yet always has more than what other Zergs have. Select cannot move across the map without dying yet vs Dimaga, he had the map control, he was harassing, he was calling the shots. Idra's injects are not better than the other good Zergs out there, but he seems to be so unstoppable in a macro game. How is he so good? What am I not seeing? His play is more refined that's why. He gets to the same point in his unit number and tech quicker than other Zerg by more efficiently managing the order of his buildings, the amount of his units/drones and the timing of his tech. He frequently checks drone amounts to make sure he has the optimum amount at each expo and knows what to get next. He takes expansions not "when he can" but when he knows he can saturate it and instantly gain benefit. Take Ret for example. Ret just makes drones :p He overmakes them and he makes them at bad times. This sets his tech and harass back giving him less map control and initiative. Ret hasn't really refined his SC2 play in the way he did with BW I don't feel. (I was a big fan of Ret in BW). | ||
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arfyron
518 Posts
On November 06 2011 03:36 Micket wrote: I am really confused. Idra only ever has 3 queens for injects, floats minerals and is gas starved, yet always has more than what other Zergs have. Select cannot move across the map without dying yet vs Dimaga, he had the map control, he was harassing, he was calling the shots. Idra's injects are not better than the other good Zergs out there, but he seems to be so unstoppable in a macro game. How is he so good? What am I not seeing? That's sort of what tasteless has said about him. I remember tasteless saying something like "you kill idra's army and then all of a sudden for no reason he has all his units back." I think Idra's strength is knowing exactly when and how many units to produce at any time given what he's scouted and his income. | ||
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Micket
United Kingdom2163 Posts
On November 06 2011 03:58 Klive5ive wrote: His play is more refined that's why. He gets to the same point in his unit number and tech quicker than other Zerg by more efficiently managing the order of his buildings, the amount of his units/drones and the timing of his tech. He frequently checks drone amounts to make sure he has the optimum amount at each expo and knows what to get next. He takes expansions not "when he can" but when he knows he can saturate it and instantly gain benefit. Take Ret for example. Ret just makes drones :p He overmakes them and he makes them at bad times. This sets his tech and harass back giving him less map control and initiative. Ret hasn't really refined his SC2 play in the way he did with BW I don't feel. (I was a big fan of Ret in BW). Thanks a bunch! Do you think Idra would do better if he got more than 3 queens for injects? I think most Koreans like to get a queen for hatch, even for the macro hatches. Idra in general seems less focussed on having 8 active creep tumours and billions of larvae and all that. Does taking slightly late gas, skipping a potential 4th queen, and all that stuff contribute to his seemingly unstoppable mid game ZvT? | ||
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0ne
Spain2464 Posts
On November 06 2011 04:05 Micket wrote: Thanks a bunch! Do you think Idra would do better if he got more than 3 queens for injects? I think most Koreans like to get a queen for hatch, even for the macro hatches. Idra in general seems less focussed on having 8 active creep tumours and billions of larvae and all that. Does taking slightly late gas, skipping a potential 4th queen, and all that stuff contribute to his seemingly unstoppable mid game ZvT? Are you sure he only makes three queens? Doesn't make a lot of sense to not have a queen per base, i'm pretty sure he makes more than three when he cans. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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VashTS
United States1675 Posts
On November 06 2011 04:07 0ne wrote: Are you sure he only makes three queens? Doesn't make a lot of sense to not have a queen per base, i'm pretty sure he makes more than three when he cans. You guys misunderstand. IdrA gets more than 3 Queens every time, it's just he only uses 3 for Injects. Why doesn't he use more? We might never know, but clearly he does not need to. | ||
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Atlas247
Canada318 Posts
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Conjuresc
United States1 Post
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