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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 06:58:00
September 15 2012 06:53 GMT
#76481
On September 15 2012 13:14 seRapH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 13:04 TuElite wrote:
I'd say that comes down to preference, top 3 for sure though but the top 3 members are pretty equally skilled technically I think.

On September 15 2012 13:03 Murdco wrote:
Yeah but the best singer in kara is not such a great accolade


Yes it is.
Go back a page and watch the performances I posted. Not many others can compete with that.
Also please capitalize KARA as such, they deserve more than common small letters.

http://www.allkpop.com/2011/04/vocal-professionals-rank-the-best-and-worst-singing-idol-groups-and-members

Teehee.



Dat feeling when both your biases ranked and tied for 2nd. AWWW YEAH.

Craton speaks the truth though about Taeyeon, it's okay, she's surrounded by 7 other qt's, and other singers can't compete with dat. As far as Hyorin goes, she has the potential for best singing, but not enough Sistar songs that exhibits her strength, only performance I can think of that shows her strength is the Immortal Song one.
liftlift > tsm
Kuja
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1759 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 06:55:56
September 15 2012 06:53 GMT
#76482
On September 15 2012 15:43 Craton wrote:
Used to think Taeyeon was good. She's better than average idol tier, but below a number of other groups' top vocals.

Davichi, SeeYa, Eunji, Hyorin, Soya, IU, Younha, and one of the WG chicks are all better. Jieun and Raina are probably about even.

Craton showing that he is a man of reason.

This roommate talk is getting really annoying though. Its one alias just pretend its one person, might as well be right?
“Who's to say that my light is better than your darkness? Who's to say death is better than your darkness? Who am I to say?”
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
September 15 2012 06:58 GMT
#76483
The WGs suck man. All bad.
God Bless
Jarzai
Profile Joined December 2011
United States702 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 07:06:00
September 15 2012 07:00 GMT
#76484
On September 15 2012 15:53 wei2coolman wrote:
she's surrounded by 7 other qt's

7. What.
Oh goody, I'm not alone in WG hate.
On September 15 2012 16:02 Kuja wrote:
You think anyone's counting Hyo?

Fair enough.
@Yulwell. Yuri "Always Smile" ~ Jessica Jung AYO GG
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
September 15 2012 07:01 GMT
#76485
On September 15 2012 15:51 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 15:43 Craton wrote:
Used to think Taeyeon was good. She's better than average idol tier, but below a number of other groups' top vocals.

Davichi, SeeYa, Eunji, Hyorin, Soya, IU, Younha, and one of the WG chicks are all better. Jieun and Raina are probably about even.

I don't think Taeyeon really gets to show her chops in a lot of SNSD songs, she had some really good bits in the TTS album though. And her OSTs are always great.

I like Tiffany's style of singing (bias showing, obviously), but I realize it's a style and not really representative of overall singing prowess.

No standard idol does.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Kuja
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1759 Posts
September 15 2012 07:02 GMT
#76486
On September 15 2012 16:00 Jarzai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 15:53 wei2coolman wrote:
she's surrounded by 7 other qt's

7. What.
Oh goody, I'm not alone in WG hate.

You think anyone's counting Hyo?
“Who's to say that my light is better than your darkness? Who's to say death is better than your darkness? Who am I to say?”
giesecke
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany361 Posts
September 15 2012 07:03 GMT
#76487
pff, performing a vocal version mister in these outfits .... such a waste.

plus

tuelite biggest hypocrit in this thread. posting that he wouldnt care about kara if it wasnt for nicole and still trying to whiteknight the shit out of their singing skills.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 15 2012 07:07 GMT
#76488
On September 15 2012 16:02 Kuja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 16:00 Jarzai wrote:
On September 15 2012 15:53 wei2coolman wrote:
she's surrounded by 7 other qt's

7. What.
Oh goody, I'm not alone in WG hate.

You think anyone's counting Hyo?

Me

+ Show Spoiler +
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It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 07:30:27
September 15 2012 07:14 GMT
#76489
On September 15 2012 16:02 Kuja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 16:00 Jarzai wrote:
On September 15 2012 15:53 wei2coolman wrote:
she's surrounded by 7 other qt's

7. What.
Oh goody, I'm not alone in WG hate.

You think anyone's counting Hyo?

Kuja, catching on real quick.

Yea, more WG bashing!

Been listening to OC's new album.
Not a huge fan of it, only a few songs I liked on it. The solo's were surprisingly good though (more groups should do this, a solo song for each person) (at least for those who can sing).
liftlift > tsm
Monocle
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1509 Posts
September 15 2012 07:15 GMT
#76490
On September 15 2012 15:58 Roffles wrote:
The WGs suck man. All bad.


I think Sunye is a good singer. The rest not so much.
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
September 15 2012 07:25 GMT
#76491
On September 15 2012 15:51 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 15:43 Craton wrote:
Used to think Taeyeon was good. She's better than average idol tier, but below a number of other groups' top vocals.

Davichi, SeeYa, Eunji, Hyorin, Soya, IU, Younha, and one of the WG chicks are all better. Jieun and Raina are probably about even.

I don't think Taeyeon really gets to show her chops in a lot of SNSD songs, she had some really good bits in the TTS album though. And her OSTs are always great.

I like Tiffany's style of singing (bias showing, obviously), but I realize it's a style and not really representative of overall singing prowess.


I like Fany's style in that, but she doesn't really do it anymore. A little raspy and more soulful compared to the others. However, her english cali girl accent is like nails on a chalkboard to me.
Side note: Seohyun is especially robotic in the video.
TunaBarrett
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1045 Posts
September 15 2012 07:43 GMT
#76492
On September 15 2012 16:15 Monocle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 15:58 Roffles wrote:
The WGs suck man. All bad.


I think Sunye is a good singer. The rest not so much.


Yenny is good aswell, the rest are rappers..and sohee.
aloT
Profile Joined April 2010
England1042 Posts
September 15 2012 07:54 GMT
#76493


this is the song I use to benchmark SNSD's singing ability
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
September 15 2012 07:55 GMT
#76494
On September 15 2012 16:25 seiferoth10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 15:51 Requizen wrote:
On September 15 2012 15:43 Craton wrote:
Used to think Taeyeon was good. She's better than average idol tier, but below a number of other groups' top vocals.

Davichi, SeeYa, Eunji, Hyorin, Soya, IU, Younha, and one of the WG chicks are all better. Jieun and Raina are probably about even.

I don't think Taeyeon really gets to show her chops in a lot of SNSD songs, she had some really good bits in the TTS album though. And her OSTs are always great.

I like Tiffany's style of singing (bias showing, obviously), but I realize it's a style and not really representative of overall singing prowess.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9vnlUgv57A

I like Fany's style in that, but she doesn't really do it anymore. A little raspy and more soulful compared to the others. However, her english cali girl accent is like nails on a chalkboard to me.
Side note: Seohyun is especially robotic in the video.

I think this sounded pretty good. I have never cared for Jessica's voice but she is a good singer either way.

On a side note, I just realized how stupid the sorry sorry lyrics are. Just wow.
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Fox116
Profile Joined April 2011
United States409 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 08:47:39
September 15 2012 08:18 GMT
#76495
MBC Music Core

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Other Performances

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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
September 15 2012 08:18 GMT
#76496
On September 15 2012 14:51 Jarzai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 14:29 MegaFonzie wrote:
most of 2ne1 (i think)


CL is like perfect with an awful accent, Bom is decent because I do believe she lived here for a while. Minzy is really bad and Dara never talks, Of course I could be wrong, but from the interviews I've seen.

cl tries to be 'bad', so her English feels more like ebonics than anything else.
I also think socal accents sound vapid and ditzy.

On September 15 2012 15:27 Jarzai wrote:
Alright, who are the top tier singers then? According to the pros its Taeyeon and Hyorin, who else?

both are mediocre.
kara is shit at singing; worst out of the big 5 I think. singing is not kpop's forte - look to ballad singers if you want real vocalists.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
September 15 2012 08:21 GMT
#76497
So SNSD had that fansign+concert for one of their endorsements a couple weeks ago, and there was a big talk portion that was a lot of fun. Onion was a doll and subbed a fancam of it, so I figured you guys might like it. It's worth the watch. The MC was really funny and there were a lot of cute moments with SNSD.

pt1


pt2
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
September 15 2012 08:22 GMT
#76498
Younha's probably the first one to come to find for me on the subject of talanted Kpop singers


Then again I've noticed I've become more and more biased towards her these last few months, but I don't think it's all blind fanboyism.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
September 15 2012 08:30 GMT
#76499
Haeri is a super talented singer. KMK is also good, but not the same level imo.
boomer hands
Vorgrim
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (North)1601 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 08:35:34
September 15 2012 08:31 GMT
#76500
I keep going back to those Younha albums I was recommended because I really want to like her. She can sing, but it just sounds bland to me. I think the mock-rock is what is putting me off.

Haeri's voice can be a bit overwhelming. It's nice when she tones it down for some quieter tracks.
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