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DystopiaX
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edit- ^ He didn't debut in the US but he has come out with some english language stuff, see map the soul worldwide version, etc. Not as good as his Korean stuff IMO but he's done it. If they do it SNSD style then I don't see a problem either, it's not like SNSD learned english. They just have to have Nicole do all their interviews and they're good. | ||
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Craton
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TuElite
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It's pretty safe to say that On November 29 2011 11:38 Craton wrote: Kpop cannot hope to penetrate the mainstream American market. In my opinion, they'll just hold a couple of concerts (probably going to be LA and NY or something). They'll sell out the concerts and it'll be cool for the fans to see them but I don't think they'd start any other kind of promotions I mean they are BANKING in Japan/Korea, why would they take a risk that has a very small possible outcome when they could just stay in Asia and rake in guaranteed money. Something that I'd like to see and that I think would make sense tho is for KPop stars to advertise for Korean brands in the U.S. (ex. Samsung, LG, KIA, Hyundai, etc.). It would introduce KPop to the masses and I'm sure it could only help the sells of the products being endorsed. I seriously don't know why they aren't already doing that on a massive scale. | ||
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DystopiaX
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On November 29 2011 11:43 TuElite wrote: Yeah, this was discussed a million times already. It's pretty safe to say that In my opinion, they'll just hold a couple of concerts (probably going to be LA and NY or something). They'll sell out the concerts and it'll be cool for the fans to see them but I don't think they'd start any other kind of promotions I mean they are BANKING in Japan/Korea, why would they take a risk that has a very small possible outcome when they could just stay in Asia and rake in guaranteed money. Cause they'd be taking a risk for 100x more. It would be stupid but the opportunity and the prospect of so much money may be too much for DSP to pass up...which would be stupid of them. | ||
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Craton
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TuElite
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On November 29 2011 11:46 DystopiaX wrote: Cause they'd be taking a risk for 100x more. It would be stupid but the opportunity and the prospect of so much money may be too much for DSP to pass up...which would be stupid of them. But that's the thing tho, any serious company would have their target demographics mapped out before making such a move and I'm sure that in the case of DSP with KARA, they wouldn't expect a 100x profit even in their wildest dreams. Have you looked at the numbers they sold in Japan ? They will never sell the third of that anywhere else than Korea and I'm sure they are well aware of that. | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
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DystopiaX
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On November 29 2011 11:50 TuElite wrote: But that's the thing tho, any serious company would have their target demographics mapped out before making such a move and I'm sure that in the case of DSP with KARA, they wouldn't expect a 100x profit even in their wildest dreams. Have you looked at the numbers they sold in Japan ? They will never sell the third of that anywhere else than Korea and I'm sure they are well aware of that. They're looking for the same kind of top 40esque billboard chart topping success that they had in Japan. I never said that I thought they would do it, but that's the secret wet dream of every k-idol entertainment company out there. I'm sure their expectations are more realistic though, they probably realized they have x number of english speaking/international fans, of whom y% will buy an album and z% will show up to a concert in their area, and that number is appealing enough to release something in the States. | ||
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chenchen
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On November 29 2011 12:34 DystopiaX wrote: They're looking for the same kind of top 40esque billboard chart topping success that they had in Japan. I never said that I thought they would do it, but that's the secret wet dream of every k-idol entertainment company out there. I'm sure their expectations are more realistic though, they probably realized they have x number of english speaking/international fans, of whom y% will buy an album and z% will show up to a concert in their area, and that number is appealing enough to release something in the States. The Japanese music market is almost as big as that of the US. It's probably better to focus on promotions in Japan rather than try to promote in the US. The opportunity cost of promoting in the US is promoting in Japan/Korea, so it would only be worth it if KARA could sell more in the US than Japan, which really isn't possible at this point. | ||
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nosliw
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On November 29 2011 09:57 SoraLimit wrote: They should have used a different song. Mr. Taxi had its time in the light, but its damn time they moved on from that song... I guess they are so tired/lazy and don't want to practice a new choreo.... IU album lives up to my expectations. No WTF songs at all. | ||
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DystopiaX
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Also the US music market is around 2x larger than Japan's (37-49% of world market value opposed to 16-19% in Japan), so they don't need to do as well popularity/percentage wise as they did in Japan to gain an equal amount of revenue. And like I said, we don't even know if they expect the same amount of return there. It's a question of whether it's easier to get more Japanese fans at this point or tap into the US fans. I bet at this point DSP is looking and they realize that most of the people buying KARA albums in Japan will continue to do so with a minimum amount of promotion, whereas there are international/english speaking fans who haven't bought anything due to cost/shipping/lack of availability who will gladly do so. | ||
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kineSiS-
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andyrau
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wow this is hella sad ;;;;;;;;;;;;; | ||
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nosliw
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ROFL I got the same messed up l'amant. I literally thought my computer froze when that sound came up. =( Thanks for the upload! | ||
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unichan
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On November 29 2011 11:38 Craton wrote: Kpop cannot hope to penetrate the mainstream American market. Just us Americans here wishing to penetrate kpop  | ||
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chenchen
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On November 29 2011 12:46 DystopiaX wrote: Like I said "promoting in US" is rather vague, and could be something like SNSD where they give 2 interviews and have an english version and that's it, which wouldn't sacrifice anything at all. Also the US music market is around 2x larger than Japan's (37-49% of world market value opposed to 16-19% in Japan), so they don't need to do as well popularity/percentage wise as they did in Japan to gain an equal amount of revenue. And like I said, we don't even know if they expect the same amount of return there. It's a question of whether it's easier to get more Japanese fans at this point or tap into the US fans. I bet at this point DSP is looking and they realize that most of the people buying KARA albums in Japan will continue to do so with a minimum amount of promotion, whereas there are international/english speaking fans who haven't bought anything due to cost/shipping/lack of availability who will gladly do so. Here's data for 2010 " Recorded music sales in the States were down 10% to $4.17 billion (compared to $4.63 billion in 2009), while Japan's market dropped 8.3% to $3.96 billion (from $4.32 billion in 2009)." source: http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/industry/global/ifpi-2011-report-global-recorded-music-sales-1005100902.story Sooo yeah . . . .the Japanese music market is slightly smaller. Japanese albums cost sooo much more than basically anywhere else in the world, so the relatively low number of albums sold doesn't directly translate to less revenue. Those figures don't take into account digital sales, but digital sales are still rather small compared to physical albums. The Japanese legal music market is also shrinking far less rapidly than the American one, and Japan is likely to overtake the US as the largest market for album sales in the entire world. | ||
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DystopiaX
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9 minute MV? IU reaching T-ara MV time lengths, only 6 minutes shorter than Roly Poly MV | ||
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