EPTAnime Discussion Thread - Page 441
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
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neobowman
Canada3324 Posts
Recommend to anyone. | ||
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
On November 04 2010 16:31 neobowman wrote: This guy does amazing improv Violin and Piano. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2T_V8X7l_g Recommend to anyone. Yay TAM~ TAMusic's stuff suffer so much in live settings for some reason, the last couple of live concert CDs I found of them traumatized me. I am a whore for like all their violin and piano rearrangements though. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On November 04 2010 15:14 Ecael wrote: I suppose I was exaggerating a bit when I said "no plot". But when I think of plots in a story, I do think of it in a more defined sense, driving the story forward in a noticable direction. Like, for example, the plot of Senjogahara was "Girl loses weight. Guy offers to solve problem. Crab exorcised." To me, thats way simple to give credit. I couldn't stomach the style, like you said.Or, like Rakkyo, it focuses heavily on the normal and the abnormal, the boundaries of the two, and the individual struggle of the characters. If you define a plot by a story having a defined purpose, like those old RPGs, then you might be able to say that there is no plot. However, each character arc has a plot of its own, and they are all connected thematically to form an overarching plot. Gahara-san's arc showed us the abnormality of Araragi and introduced us to the concept of the abnormal. From the initial look, we'd think that it is just a case of the helpless normal folks preyed upon by the supernatural, but that is not the case., as we see when the arc ended and the explanation of how Gahara lost her weight. Hachikuji's story is much weaker, but again it reminds us the whole mentality we have by jumping to the conclusion that normal people are victimized by the abnormal beings. It also provides us with the first glimpse of what things can be like from the perspective of the abnormal. Similar ideas with Suruga, but here we start to get a better picture of what Araragi is like, paving the way both into kizu and nisemonogatari. Nadeko arc showed us the case of someone just victimized while further developing Araragi, and Hanekawa's story was something that explores those who live on the borderline of normal and abnormal, as well as the strength it takes to persist in walking down a certain path. The characters also fit particularly well into that, with Araragi taking upon the role of Shino upon the latter's departure from the town, Gahara-san's determination to regain what she has lost, or rather, wished away in her weakness. Hanekawa facing the reality that she has to put up with rather than running away, etc. In all, if you can't stomach the style, that's that. Nishio Ishin's style is not exactly one that everyone likes and Shaft's adaptation can't have pleased everyone. But you can't really deny the fact that each story in bake has a plot in itself that ranges from average to excellent. They also connect extremely well into the sequels and prequels, but since you don't really have a chance to see kizumonogatari for a long time, well you'll just have to take my words for it. | ||
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
On November 04 2010 16:57 Sentenal wrote: I suppose I was exaggerating a bit when I said "no plot". But when I think of plots in a story, I do think of it in a more defined sense, driving the story forward in a noticable direction. Like, for example, the plot of Senjogahara was "Girl loses weight. Guy offers to solve problem. Crab exorcised." To me, thats way simple to give credit. I couldn't stomach the style, like you said. The point of series like Bake is that you are reliant on characters' interactions rather than event movement to create a story. In terms of the events themselves, that's what you'd see from Hitagi Crab. But in terms of the character interactions, you've been thrown around for a huge loop. From Hitagi's abnormality in both her weight and her personality, to her wishing for help, to the presumption that she was the victim to the crab. Then you learn the proper order of events (at that, crab wasn't exorcised). Event wise it moved little, but the actual distance covered for the characters involved far outstrips that. It is my belief that a plot movement can easily be achieved through this mean as well as actual events occurring, and that, in fact, this is much more difficult and much more interesting to read. The style of the rest of Bake is partly to sell and partly to keep the story going with something without us being bored to death by the lack of things actually happening. Well, in that sense, Kizu, Nise and all of the following books will be much better for you. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
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Spazer
Canada8033 Posts
I don't really care for Kanon myself. She's not really a proper yandere, imo. <_< I'm waiting for Sumire and Tenri, but they won't show up until like, season 3. -_- At least season 2 should have the teacher and Chihiro. | ||
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Wala.Revolution
7584 Posts
What would you guys recommend for me to watch if I enjoyed Ghost in the Shell series? I do like deep plots and series that make me think, with good action and bit of chuckle here and there. Also can we talk about where to acquire animes here? | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On November 04 2010 12:18 Blasterion wrote: What are everyone's thought on Bakemonogatari? totally wish they are sequaling Kizumonogatari and all the other novels I loved it, but then it started going like six months between eps (if someone knows why, please explain to me) so I lost interest. | ||
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TeaGreen
Canada147 Posts
On November 04 2010 21:31 Ferrose wrote: I loved it, but then it started going like six months between eps (if someone knows why, please explain to me) so I lost interest. I think it started out very good and then got meh. The scripting and dialogue was excellent then some annoying snail girl came along. I dropped it half-way though the snake arc but I heard the last 3 episodes are worth the watch. 12 episodes were aired. I think there was 1 break where there was a week it didn't air due to another program running at the time. Last 3 episodes were aired off of the official site and not immediately on TV. They were a couple months apart for some reason. 2nd season is announced. | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On November 04 2010 22:02 Animes wrote: I think it started out very good and then got meh. The scripting and dialogue was excellent then some annoying snail girl came along. I dropped it half-way though the snake arc but I heard the last 3 episodes are worth the watch. 12 episodes were aired. I think there was 1 break where there was a week it didn't air due to another program running at the time. Last 3 episodes were aired off of the official site and not immediately on TV. They were a couple months apart for some reason. 2nd season is announced. But..I love Hachikuji. So adorable... | ||
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TeaGreen
Canada147 Posts
Eh this show coulda been epic but it died. I heard the 2nd season will be focused on the little vampire girl so I'll give that a shot for sure. The short preview at the very start of the 1st episode promised much more epic then what the show actually delivered. Shaft really skimped out during the 2nd half of the show. I don't think the industry is dying but it's definitely taken the wrong turn. So many shows each season but this season I'm only watching Yosuga no Sora. No other show has been able to hook me on. Angel Beats was good because it was done by Key.  I thought some of the manga this season were worth a shot, but they're for the most part quite disappointing. Reminds me of the Ichigo %100 anime; not worth the time. I think I'm only going to give visual novel/light novel remake shows a shot now. | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On November 04 2010 23:03 Animes wrote: Eh this show coulda been epic but it died. I heard the 2nd season will be focused on the little vampire girl so I'll give that a shot for sure. The short preview at the very start of the 1st episode promised much more epic then what the show actually delivered. Shaft really skimped out during the 2nd half of the show. I don't think the industry is dying but it's definitely taken the wrong turn. So many shows each season but this season I'm only watching Yosuga no Sora. No other show has been able to hook me on. Angel Beats was good because it was done by Key. I thought some of the manga this season were worth a shot, but they're for the most part quite disappointing. Reminds me of the Ichigo %100 anime; not worth the time. I think I'm only going to give visual novel/light novel remake shows a shot now. Didn't they run out of money though (Shaft)? | ||
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
On November 04 2010 23:03 Animes wrote: Eh this show coulda been epic but it died. I heard the 2nd season will be focused on the little vampire girl so I'll give that a shot for sure. The short preview at the very start of the 1st episode promised much more epic then what the show actually delivered. Shaft really skimped out during the 2nd half of the show. I don't think the industry is dying but it's definitely taken the wrong turn. So many shows each season but this season I'm only watching Yosuga no Sora. No other show has been able to hook me on. Angel Beats was good because it was done by Key. I thought some of the manga this season were worth a shot, but they're for the most part quite disappointing. Reminds me of the Ichigo %100 anime; not worth the time. I think I'm only going to give visual novel/light novel remake shows a shot now. But it is epic, walls of text man. You not watching the blu-ray also doesn't help Shaft's case. Oh, or missing 3/5 stories, if we count Hachikuji as completed. I think people needlessly got the idea that this will be a battle show due to the blips of Kizu that they saw, and well, there were some. Particularly in Nise and most recently in Neko (black), I haven't read white yet but I am guessing it won't be that action oriented. But yeah, the focus of the show is definitely not on the epicness - the readers would go to Zaregoto and Ningen series for that. The bake series is a mix of moe and a serious undertone, not quite 'epic' as one'd think. Oh and in terms of the episodes, 12 aired normally, 3 were webcast episodes. The TV broadcasting schedule only allowed them to do 12 and they were low on budget so the 3 took forever to come out, that and they were kinda made to coincide with the blu-ray releases. On November 04 2010 23:05 Ferrose wrote: Didn't they run out of money though (Shaft)? Yeah Shaft just has like no money somehow, I hope Arakawa turned out to be a success for them. | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
And it would be sad if Shaft went out of business or something due to no money. They've made some really great shows... | ||
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
On November 04 2010 23:11 Ferrose wrote: Is the Bakemonogatari extended stuff ONLY on Blu-Ray? And it would be sad if Shaft went out of business or something due to no money. They've made some really great shows... You mean the fixed episodes? I believe dvd has them too, can't say though since I didn't watch those. | ||
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TeaGreen
Canada147 Posts
I suppose because they did have it preview at the start it set my expectations. I loved the 1st arc. Didn't have any "battles." | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On November 04 2010 23:14 Ecael wrote: You mean the fixed episodes? I believe dvd has them too, can't say though since I didn't watch those. I hope. I don't have a Blu-Ray player D: | ||
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
On November 04 2010 23:17 Animes wrote: Yeah it's only on blu-ray (edit: possibly DVD). Which is true I didn't bother to watch. Generally speaking I don't watch "battle" shows but if something does look interesting to me I will give it a shot. I suppose because they did have it preview at the start it set my expectations. I loved the 1st arc. Didn't have any "battles." In general Bake is not a show where you have epic fights, and where you do have fights they are often not so much epic as they are onesided slaughters. It just doesn't fit the theme of a protagonist stuck somewhere between normal and abnormal, first by being unable to decide where he lies, then by inertia. Even when he made up his mind by the end of bake, his resolve is still not anything near fleshed out until the events of nise. Such a show really can't be epic per se. Gahara-san though is always epic. | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On November 04 2010 23:50 Ecael wrote: In general Bake is not a show where you have epic fights, and where you do have fights they are often not so much epic as they are onesided slaughters. It just doesn't fit the theme of a protagonist stuck somewhere between normal and abnormal, first by being unable to decide where he lies, then by inertia. Even when he made up his mind by the end of bake, his resolve is still not anything near fleshed out until the events of nise. Such a show really can't be epic per se. Gahara-san though is always epic. What are the other parts of the series called? I'm interested in reading them. | ||
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