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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-19 07:16:46
October 19 2014 07:15 GMT
#85981
Vanadis surely is one of my favorites this season, but the best one is probably Shingeki no Bahamut. And of course UBW, I'm liking it a lot so far.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44274 Posts
October 19 2014 07:29 GMT
#85982
On October 19 2014 06:54 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2014 04:16 goody153 wrote:
DATABASE DATABASE EP 3

+ Show Spoiler +
Party 2 are basically "guys .. cc please or draw the aggro or something.. we fucked up need help " lol that's pretty cool

how did a someone demikas get lvl 90 without learning how to cooperate in a party properly ? probably some kid who brought a level 90 character or the game allows solo leveling even in higher levels

Idk any mmo game where raids reach as long as a month. I don't think you can play non-stop for like even just 3 days without actually dying or being in a fatal condition afterwards. Maybe they meant now they are inside the game i guess.

And antagonist arrives !! Yey !


normal LH episode


Few things. Demikas is your classic arrogant DPS that goes full dps before tank has aggro under ccontrol then rages at the tank for losing aggro. He also doesn't dodge anything so a novice healing will waste all their mana healing him instead of just letting them die.

10 days worth of supplies is actually pretty freaking amazing. I remember in vanilla you used to spend all your time that you weren't raiding farming mats to use for that weeks raiding and that was only for 2/3 nights a week. Having 10 days without access to AH is just crazy. Generally took about 2-3 months to start being able to clear the raid in a week iirc.

The LH raid explanations were a bit weak. I'm not sure about other games but in WoW you generally don't have a "clean up" party. If your add pulling gets out of control and you aren't overgeared that was a straight raid wipe. So you'd have planned every pull down properly before engaging hence no need for a "clean up" party. No mention of hard CCs like Sap being used on pulls either which was pretty important in some zones. Full raid AoE healing also is a bit iffy. Must be super mana inefficient.



I have not played a mmo game with cleanup party. That's pretty cool.


On October 19 2014 04:37 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2014 04:16 goody153 wrote:
DATABASE DATABASE EP 3

+ Show Spoiler +
Party 2 are basically "guys .. cc please or draw the aggro or something.. we fucked up need help " lol that's pretty cool

how did a someone demikas get lvl 90 without learning how to cooperate in a party properly ? probably some kid who brought a level 90 character or the game allows solo leveling even in higher levels

Idk any mmo game where raids reach as long as a month. I don't think you can play non-stop for like even just 3 days without actually dying or being in a fatal condition afterwards. Maybe they meant now they are inside the game i guess.

And antagonist arrives !! Yey !


normal LH episode


about the last part, yes raids usually don't take that long in one session because people playing wow these days sign up for raid finder without a group. That's done months and months after raid-in-question has been first-cleared.
Idk if you ever played WoW or any mmo's for that matter but remember when Naxx' was released in WoW before the first expansion? The time between someone first stepping a foot in there and someone actually killing Lich was multiple months as well (iirc) despite people trying REALLY hard because we had a timewindow to operate in thanks to first addon release. It's not just "a raid" where you can read up the strategy online and everyone who shows up is supposed to know the thing before even getting in.

It's literally them going in there and trying to clear it for the first time. And yes that usually takes a looooot of time. Or at least did take a lot of time, no idea how it's been the last couple of years, stopped playing a while ago
People obviously don't play that long in one session. You grind it over weeks and months until you figured out how to beat it. It never has been mentioned in the anime (iirc) but I'd assume they do sleep inside LH world as well


Welp i haven't thought of that. Most mmo games i played first time raids tend to be difficult.
On October 19 2014 13:43 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2014 04:16 goody153 wrote:
DATABASE DATABASE EP 3

+ Show Spoiler +
Party 2 are basically "guys .. cc please or draw the aggro or something.. we fucked up need help " lol that's pretty cool

how did a someone demikas get lvl 90 without learning how to cooperate in a party properly ? probably some kid who brought a level 90 character or the game allows solo leveling even in higher levels

Idk any mmo game where raids reach as long as a month. I don't think you can play non-stop for like even just 3 days without actually dying or being in a fatal condition afterwards. Maybe they meant now they are inside the game i guess.

And antagonist arrives !! Yey !


normal LH episode


FFXI you literally could not solo level up above lvl 10~ and there are still plenty max level player who has no idea what they doing. Never underestimate stupidity and getting carried.

Show nested quote +
On October 19 2014 06:54 Numy wrote:
On October 19 2014 04:16 goody153 wrote:
DATABASE DATABASE EP 3

+ Show Spoiler +
Party 2 are basically "guys .. cc please or draw the aggro or something.. we fucked up need help " lol that's pretty cool

how did a someone demikas get lvl 90 without learning how to cooperate in a party properly ? probably some kid who brought a level 90 character or the game allows solo leveling even in higher levels

Idk any mmo game where raids reach as long as a month. I don't think you can play non-stop for like even just 3 days without actually dying or being in a fatal condition afterwards. Maybe they meant now they are inside the game i guess.

And antagonist arrives !! Yey !


normal LH episode


Few things. Demikas is your classic arrogant DPS that goes full dps before tank has aggro under ccontrol then rages at the tank for losing aggro. He also doesn't dodge anything so a novice healing will waste all their mana healing him instead of just letting them die.

10 days worth of supplies is actually pretty freaking amazing. I remember in vanilla you used to spend all your time that you weren't raiding farming mats to use for that weeks raiding and that was only for 2/3 nights a week. Having 10 days without access to AH is just crazy. Generally took about 2-3 months to start being able to clear the raid in a week iirc.

The LH raid explanations were a bit weak. I'm not sure about other games but in WoW you generally don't have a "clean up" party. If your add pulling gets out of control and you aren't overgeared that was a straight raid wipe. So you'd have planned every pull down properly before engaging hence no need for a "clean up" party. No mention of hard CCs like Sap being used on pulls either which was pretty important in some zones. Full raid AoE healing also is a bit iffy. Must be super mana inefficient.

On October 19 2014 04:46 andyrau wrote:
totally off topic but iirc there were certain parts of naxx that had to be needed because nobody had gear at that time to clear the content
and it's not that people didn't know how to beat it, it's just that you had to take time to farm the other wings for gear before lich could be done.


Patchwerk is classic example of a gearcheck boss as well. It's obviously a lot harder since they are in the game so no wiki or raid addons to tell you everything.


In many MMO there is a Adds party (assume you meant party 2) since boss often spawn adds that need to be picked up by off tank. And it's pretty rare for CC to work on boss level adds. It's pretty accurate imo.

The raid last a month part, don't forget that in game time is different from IRL (something like 5 to 1?). So it's prob 100~ hour, which is not all that much for new content.



Well there are some mmo's where you can level up alone to max as well but it's pretty exhausting usually compared to join a party.
this is a quote
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-19 07:42:40
October 19 2014 07:40 GMT
#85983
Just watched the recent episode of World Trigger and imo it was the best one so far. Fairly interesting already.
+ Show Spoiler +
OP girl appeared. Poor MC, will he get punished? Lol, either way he's weak as shit.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 19 2014 07:45 GMT
#85984
Watched Garo, not even sure what I'm watching lol. Don't like the CGI use at all, feels a bit much.

On October 19 2014 16:40 HolydaKing wrote:
Just watched the recent episode of World Trigger and imo it was the best one so far. Fairly interesting already.
+ Show Spoiler +
OP girl appeared. Poor MC, will he get punished? Lol, either way he's weak as shit.

+ Show Spoiler +
well, I hope he gets his act together. I would hate to see him this weak for the rest of the series lol.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 19 2014 08:08 GMT
#85985
On October 19 2014 16:45 BigFan wrote:
Watched Garo, not even sure what I'm watching lol. Don't like the CGI use at all, feels a bit much.

Show nested quote +
On October 19 2014 16:40 HolydaKing wrote:
Just watched the recent episode of World Trigger and imo it was the best one so far. Fairly interesting already.
+ Show Spoiler +
OP girl appeared. Poor MC, will he get punished? Lol, either way he's weak as shit.

+ Show Spoiler +
well, I hope he gets his act together. I would hate to see him this weak for the rest of the series lol.

+ Show Spoiler +
Maybe it's gonna be a long anime and not just 12-24 episodes? I'm not sure. But the MC surely looks like he'll need some serious training to get stronger.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50936 Posts
October 19 2014 08:18 GMT
#85986
+ Show Spoiler [World trigger] +
don't expect much from the MC for sometime......he does start showing improvement later on but hes still weak and lacks natural talent(look at his trion level).
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-19 08:59:00
October 19 2014 08:54 GMT
#85987
On October 19 2014 15:18 killa_robot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2014 04:59 BurningSera wrote:
Vanadis#3 please these imba weapons in that world are so strong lol


The thing involving the horse fake army was pretty stupid though.

"Hey, what are you guys gonna do with those horses that you brought?"
*Pan to about 30ish horses just standing there
"Oh those? We were just going to leave them here."
"I have a plan then..."

Suddenly 2000 horses. Yeah, you brought 2000 fucking horses with you, just to leave them in the damn city. Worst part is they didn't even need to do that stupid shit, as the main characters could have just stomped the rest of the army on their own anyway.

...???

I am not sure you understand why extra horses were brought or that recon parties don't actually sit there and count out every horse in an approaching army.
On October 19 2014 15:26 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2014 15:18 killa_robot wrote:
On October 19 2014 04:59 BurningSera wrote:
Vanadis#3 please these imba weapons in that world are so strong lol


The thing involving the horse fake army was pretty stupid though.

"Hey, what are you guys gonna do with those horses that you brought?"
*Pan to about 30ish horses just standing there
"Oh those? We were just going to leave them here."
"I have a plan then..."

Suddenly 2000 horses. Yeah, you brought 2000 fucking horses with you, just to leave them in the damn city. Worst part is they didn't even need to do that stupid shit, as the main characters could have just stomped the rest of the army on their own anyway.

haha that sounds hilarious. Is Vanadis any good?

On October 18 2014 10:21 Ecael wrote:
Discussion for fun is a good joke though when people can't get basic facts correct.

See what I am saying?
On October 19 2014 15:53 IceHism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2014 15:18 killa_robot wrote:
On October 19 2014 04:59 BurningSera wrote:
Vanadis#3 please these imba weapons in that world are so strong lol


The thing involving the horse fake army was pretty stupid though.

"Hey, what are you guys gonna do with those horses that you brought?"
*Pan to about 30ish horses just standing there
"Oh those? We were just going to leave them here."
"I have a plan then..."

Suddenly 2000 horses. Yeah, you brought 2000 fucking horses with you, just to leave them in the damn city. Worst part is they didn't even need to do that stupid shit, as the main characters could have just stomped the rest of the army on their own anyway.


I'm pretty sure there is a limit to special attacks. There always is.

either way, it's only the first fight. they are suppose to be smallfry

If there are no limits to special attacks, are they special anymore?
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-19 09:22:59
October 19 2014 09:04 GMT
#85988
On October 19 2014 16:29 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2014 06:54 Numy wrote:
On October 19 2014 04:16 goody153 wrote:
DATABASE DATABASE EP 3

+ Show Spoiler +
Party 2 are basically "guys .. cc please or draw the aggro or something.. we fucked up need help " lol that's pretty cool

how did a someone demikas get lvl 90 without learning how to cooperate in a party properly ? probably some kid who brought a level 90 character or the game allows solo leveling even in higher levels

Idk any mmo game where raids reach as long as a month. I don't think you can play non-stop for like even just 3 days without actually dying or being in a fatal condition afterwards. Maybe they meant now they are inside the game i guess.

And antagonist arrives !! Yey !


normal LH episode


Few things. Demikas is your classic arrogant DPS that goes full dps before tank has aggro under ccontrol then rages at the tank for losing aggro. He also doesn't dodge anything so a novice healing will waste all their mana healing him instead of just letting them die.

10 days worth of supplies is actually pretty freaking amazing. I remember in vanilla you used to spend all your time that you weren't raiding farming mats to use for that weeks raiding and that was only for 2/3 nights a week. Having 10 days without access to AH is just crazy. Generally took about 2-3 months to start being able to clear the raid in a week iirc.

The LH raid explanations were a bit weak. I'm not sure about other games but in WoW you generally don't have a "clean up" party. If your add pulling gets out of control and you aren't overgeared that was a straight raid wipe. So you'd have planned every pull down properly before engaging hence no need for a "clean up" party. No mention of hard CCs like Sap being used on pulls either which was pretty important in some zones. Full raid AoE healing also is a bit iffy. Must be super mana inefficient.



I have not played a mmo game with cleanup party. That's pretty cool.


Show nested quote +
On October 19 2014 04:37 Toadesstern wrote:
On October 19 2014 04:16 goody153 wrote:
DATABASE DATABASE EP 3

+ Show Spoiler +
Party 2 are basically "guys .. cc please or draw the aggro or something.. we fucked up need help " lol that's pretty cool

how did a someone demikas get lvl 90 without learning how to cooperate in a party properly ? probably some kid who brought a level 90 character or the game allows solo leveling even in higher levels

Idk any mmo game where raids reach as long as a month. I don't think you can play non-stop for like even just 3 days without actually dying or being in a fatal condition afterwards. Maybe they meant now they are inside the game i guess.

And antagonist arrives !! Yey !


normal LH episode


about the last part, yes raids usually don't take that long in one session because people playing wow these days sign up for raid finder without a group. That's done months and months after raid-in-question has been first-cleared.
Idk if you ever played WoW or any mmo's for that matter but remember when Naxx' was released in WoW before the first expansion? The time between someone first stepping a foot in there and someone actually killing Lich was multiple months as well (iirc) despite people trying REALLY hard because we had a timewindow to operate in thanks to first addon release. It's not just "a raid" where you can read up the strategy online and everyone who shows up is supposed to know the thing before even getting in.

It's literally them going in there and trying to clear it for the first time. And yes that usually takes a looooot of time. Or at least did take a lot of time, no idea how it's been the last couple of years, stopped playing a while ago
People obviously don't play that long in one session. You grind it over weeks and months until you figured out how to beat it. It never has been mentioned in the anime (iirc) but I'd assume they do sleep inside LH world as well


Welp i haven't thought of that. Most mmo games i played first time raids tend to be difficult.
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2014 13:43 ragz_gt wrote:
On October 19 2014 04:16 goody153 wrote:
DATABASE DATABASE EP 3

+ Show Spoiler +
Party 2 are basically "guys .. cc please or draw the aggro or something.. we fucked up need help " lol that's pretty cool

how did a someone demikas get lvl 90 without learning how to cooperate in a party properly ? probably some kid who brought a level 90 character or the game allows solo leveling even in higher levels

Idk any mmo game where raids reach as long as a month. I don't think you can play non-stop for like even just 3 days without actually dying or being in a fatal condition afterwards. Maybe they meant now they are inside the game i guess.

And antagonist arrives !! Yey !


normal LH episode


FFXI you literally could not solo level up above lvl 10~ and there are still plenty max level player who has no idea what they doing. Never underestimate stupidity and getting carried.

On October 19 2014 06:54 Numy wrote:
On October 19 2014 04:16 goody153 wrote:
DATABASE DATABASE EP 3

+ Show Spoiler +
Party 2 are basically "guys .. cc please or draw the aggro or something.. we fucked up need help " lol that's pretty cool

how did a someone demikas get lvl 90 without learning how to cooperate in a party properly ? probably some kid who brought a level 90 character or the game allows solo leveling even in higher levels

Idk any mmo game where raids reach as long as a month. I don't think you can play non-stop for like even just 3 days without actually dying or being in a fatal condition afterwards. Maybe they meant now they are inside the game i guess.

And antagonist arrives !! Yey !


normal LH episode


Few things. Demikas is your classic arrogant DPS that goes full dps before tank has aggro under ccontrol then rages at the tank for losing aggro. He also doesn't dodge anything so a novice healing will waste all their mana healing him instead of just letting them die.

10 days worth of supplies is actually pretty freaking amazing. I remember in vanilla you used to spend all your time that you weren't raiding farming mats to use for that weeks raiding and that was only for 2/3 nights a week. Having 10 days without access to AH is just crazy. Generally took about 2-3 months to start being able to clear the raid in a week iirc.

The LH raid explanations were a bit weak. I'm not sure about other games but in WoW you generally don't have a "clean up" party. If your add pulling gets out of control and you aren't overgeared that was a straight raid wipe. So you'd have planned every pull down properly before engaging hence no need for a "clean up" party. No mention of hard CCs like Sap being used on pulls either which was pretty important in some zones. Full raid AoE healing also is a bit iffy. Must be super mana inefficient.

On October 19 2014 04:46 andyrau wrote:
totally off topic but iirc there were certain parts of naxx that had to be needed because nobody had gear at that time to clear the content
and it's not that people didn't know how to beat it, it's just that you had to take time to farm the other wings for gear before lich could be done.


Patchwerk is classic example of a gearcheck boss as well. It's obviously a lot harder since they are in the game so no wiki or raid addons to tell you everything.


In many MMO there is a Adds party (assume you meant party 2) since boss often spawn adds that need to be picked up by off tank. And it's pretty rare for CC to work on boss level adds. It's pretty accurate imo.

The raid last a month part, don't forget that in game time is different from IRL (something like 5 to 1?). So it's prob 100~ hour, which is not all that much for new content.



Well there are some mmo's where you can level up alone to max as well but it's pretty exhausting usually compared to join a party.


FF11 really took it to the extreme, as pretty much any mob above lvl 12~ that give you exp would eat your face. Even at max level, any aggro would be a life or death situation. You can't go anywhere without stacks of prism powder(make you invisible) and silent oil. And even with everything, there are mob with true sight / hear, and those aggro if you use any skill, and those aggro if you are not at full hp, and those who does all of them. You spend more time MGSing than anything else in the game pretty much.

The bad part is that every death you lose an hour worth of exp. The worse part is that you can actually delevel if exp went below 0 for current level. The worst part is that if you fall below gear requirement you can't wear them anymore, so you can end up naked after a crappy day.

Of course, you can only grind exp by spend hours constructing a perfect party, otherwise you might just end up with less exp than started. My first job took around 10 month to get to max level while playing 8-10 hr everyday, which is like super fast at the time.

+ Show Spoiler +
Even with all that, there are plenty of crappy players at max level... SMH

I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Sterlymobile
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
October 19 2014 09:45 GMT
#85989
I hardcore raided in WoW so the explanations didn't really bother me.

PP2
+ Show Spoiler +
Are we supposed to know who the culprit was when they showed him? I thought it was the doctor at first but the hair and voice don't sound the same. Also it doesn't look like she is smoking but just lighting the cigarettes (from what the robot holo squid thing said)?
"You sons of a silly person"
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
October 19 2014 09:55 GMT
#85990
If you watched s1 you should know who is that dude. and for the smoking part is why i said 'the cutest way to smoke ever', she is technically doing second hand smoking rofl
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-19 10:00:12
October 19 2014 09:59 GMT
#85991
Yeah, so you think the same as me I guess. + Show Spoiler +
It also makes sense why none of the bombs were supposed to kill anyone and why he was disappointed that someone ended up dying in the end.
Sterlymobile
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
October 19 2014 10:38 GMT
#85992
On October 19 2014 18:55 BurningSera wrote:
If you watched s1 you should know who is that dude. and for the smoking part is why i said 'the cutest way to smoke ever', she is technically doing second hand smoking rofl


Spooky boogy? I honestly have no idea.
"You sons of a silly person"
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 19 2014 11:45 GMT
#85993
On October 19 2014 19:38 Sterlymobile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2014 18:55 BurningSera wrote:
If you watched s1 you should know who is that dude. and for the smoking part is why i said 'the cutest way to smoke ever', she is technically doing second hand smoking rofl


Spooky boogy? I honestly have no idea.

+ Show Spoiler +
My impression is that it's S1's most famous lateral criminal Kogami. His hair looks like him, the eyes do as well. And he's disappointed that inspector Tsunemori couldn't solve the case early enough. He's probably over 300 by now, and I hope he'll bring the Sibyl system down or at least kill the white hag. But he most probably will end up as the main villain now and die in the end. That's what I think will happen, 100% guessing.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
October 19 2014 11:50 GMT
#85994
well yes it has to be him and the lastly he spoke about akane as which he knew her so it is definitely him.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
October 19 2014 12:11 GMT
#85995
Just watched the newest episode of Fate/Stay Night, all I can say is I was a bit dissapointed when I found out it wasn't 45 min like the last 2 episodes was
"Yeah buddy"
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 19 2014 12:27 GMT
#85996
That episode was also pretty much identical to the original FSN episode, not much extra stuff if any. I would've been surprised if there's a 45 min episode every week anyway. ^^
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
October 19 2014 12:28 GMT
#85997
2cour 45min episodes each

keep dreaming.
WriterXiao8~~
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
October 19 2014 13:01 GMT
#85998
It's ok Mushishi replaced the timeslot.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 19 2014 13:04 GMT
#85999
On October 19 2014 21:28 Kipsate wrote:
2cour 45min episodes each

keep dreaming.

The dream is real
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
October 19 2014 13:39 GMT
#86000
Crossange#3: all the fun is gone now that + Show Spoiler +
she is dead
:'(. Entertaining none the less, i like how everything changed drastically in just one episode lol
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
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