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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
January 15 2014 00:47 GMT
#68601
Would love to see what Incomplet think about Pupa :3 have a go at that mate.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-15 00:49:45
January 15 2014 00:48 GMT
#68602
On January 15 2014 09:46 Incomplet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 09:40 Sentenal wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:34 Incomplet wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:22 Ecael wrote:
Did someone really just cite SAO for darker atmosphere and say that's where Log Horizon goes wrong?

There are plenty of problems with Log Horizon. Not being dark isn't one of them. Even when they put on kiddy gloves to make it airable on NHK.


Lets be honest here, darkness = popularity. Lets take a look back into history into some of the most popular anime of all time outside of the big 3 (One Piece, Bleach, Gintama).

Death Note, SNK, Ano Hana, Madoka Magica, Steins Gate, Code Geass, Monster all very popular anime and all very dark.
People want to see fucked up shit, hence why the news is always full of it. People want to see anti-heroes or disgusting and intelligent villains. People want to get that "holy shit wtf just happened" sensation when they watch not just anime, but any movie or tv show.

Dont get me wrong, there have been some really great slice of lifes like NHK, Usagi Drop & Clannad, but they were all very deep and master pieces in their own way. And these master pieces only come along ever so often.

Dark = profit

So, why are you omitting One Piece? Is it because its probably the most popular manga/anime of all time and doesn't fit your argument? Why are you completely ignore the massive, popular shounen genre? Code Geass is not "very dark", either, btw. Nor is it as popular as something like Gundam SEED Destiny (for the record, I think GSD is shit, but it is one of the most popular animes of all time). What you are doing is taking your own sensibilities and tastes, and blanketing them over "most people".

Your look into "history" is also hilarious. I guess the history of anime doesn't even go back more than 10 years for you?


When we look back into history, we also need to be realistic with how far we backtrack. The people who were watching anime 15 years ago, how many do you really think still watch anime religiously now? We need to look at this current generation and the predecessor generation to accurately gauge what is truly required now.

A better question is why does it matter? Does old anime stop existing after 15 years?

And this current generation seems to think a lot about One Piece, which you decided doesn't count. For some reason.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-15 00:48:58
January 15 2014 00:48 GMT
#68603
Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Baccano, Durarara, FMA:B weren't very dark.
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Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
January 15 2014 00:50 GMT
#68604
On January 15 2014 09:48 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 09:46 Incomplet wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:40 Sentenal wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:34 Incomplet wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:22 Ecael wrote:
Did someone really just cite SAO for darker atmosphere and say that's where Log Horizon goes wrong?

There are plenty of problems with Log Horizon. Not being dark isn't one of them. Even when they put on kiddy gloves to make it airable on NHK.


Lets be honest here, darkness = popularity. Lets take a look back into history into some of the most popular anime of all time outside of the big 3 (One Piece, Bleach, Gintama).

Death Note, SNK, Ano Hana, Madoka Magica, Steins Gate, Code Geass, Monster all very popular anime and all very dark.
People want to see fucked up shit, hence why the news is always full of it. People want to see anti-heroes or disgusting and intelligent villains. People want to get that "holy shit wtf just happened" sensation when they watch not just anime, but any movie or tv show.

Dont get me wrong, there have been some really great slice of lifes like NHK, Usagi Drop & Clannad, but they were all very deep and master pieces in their own way. And these master pieces only come along ever so often.

Dark = profit

So, why are you omitting One Piece? Is it because its probably the most popular manga/anime of all time and doesn't fit your argument? Why are you completely ignore the massive, popular shounen genre? Code Geass is not "very dark", either, btw. Nor is it as popular as something like Gundam SEED Destiny (for the record, I think GSD is shit, but it is one of the most popular animes of all time). What you are doing is taking your own sensibilities and tastes, and blanketing them over "most people".

Your look into "history" is also hilarious. I guess the history of anime doesn't even go back more than 10 years for you?


When we look back into history, we also need to be realistic with how far we backtrack. The people who were watching anime 15 years ago, how many do you really think still watch anime religiously now? We need to look at this current generation and the predecessor generation to accurately gauge what is truly required now.

A better question is why does it matter? Does old anime stop existing after 15 years?

And this current generation seems to think a lot about One Piece, which you decided doesn't count. For some reason.

Running out of reasons, so have to include time as a limit to why anime must be dark to be popular.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
January 15 2014 00:50 GMT
#68605
On January 15 2014 09:48 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Baccano, FMA:B weren't very dark.


Bebop actually failed miserably in Japan. It was only mildly successful in the U.S. FMA:B had its moments of darkness, and it always had those very moments lingering in the background which is what drove the story. The compelling story and the laughs were a nice touch, but it was the darkness which was the backbone.
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
January 15 2014 00:51 GMT
#68606
On January 15 2014 09:50 Nagisama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 09:48 Sentenal wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:46 Incomplet wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:40 Sentenal wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:34 Incomplet wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:22 Ecael wrote:
Did someone really just cite SAO for darker atmosphere and say that's where Log Horizon goes wrong?

There are plenty of problems with Log Horizon. Not being dark isn't one of them. Even when they put on kiddy gloves to make it airable on NHK.


Lets be honest here, darkness = popularity. Lets take a look back into history into some of the most popular anime of all time outside of the big 3 (One Piece, Bleach, Gintama).

Death Note, SNK, Ano Hana, Madoka Magica, Steins Gate, Code Geass, Monster all very popular anime and all very dark.
People want to see fucked up shit, hence why the news is always full of it. People want to see anti-heroes or disgusting and intelligent villains. People want to get that "holy shit wtf just happened" sensation when they watch not just anime, but any movie or tv show.

Dont get me wrong, there have been some really great slice of lifes like NHK, Usagi Drop & Clannad, but they were all very deep and master pieces in their own way. And these master pieces only come along ever so often.

Dark = profit

So, why are you omitting One Piece? Is it because its probably the most popular manga/anime of all time and doesn't fit your argument? Why are you completely ignore the massive, popular shounen genre? Code Geass is not "very dark", either, btw. Nor is it as popular as something like Gundam SEED Destiny (for the record, I think GSD is shit, but it is one of the most popular animes of all time). What you are doing is taking your own sensibilities and tastes, and blanketing them over "most people".

Your look into "history" is also hilarious. I guess the history of anime doesn't even go back more than 10 years for you?


When we look back into history, we also need to be realistic with how far we backtrack. The people who were watching anime 15 years ago, how many do you really think still watch anime religiously now? We need to look at this current generation and the predecessor generation to accurately gauge what is truly required now.

A better question is why does it matter? Does old anime stop existing after 15 years?

And this current generation seems to think a lot about One Piece, which you decided doesn't count. For some reason.

Running out of reasons, so have to include time as a limit to why anime must be dark to be popular.

Just like day and night, so too does anime popularity rotate between light and dark.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
January 15 2014 00:52 GMT
#68607
On January 15 2014 09:50 Nagisama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 09:48 Sentenal wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:46 Incomplet wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:40 Sentenal wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:34 Incomplet wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:22 Ecael wrote:
Did someone really just cite SAO for darker atmosphere and say that's where Log Horizon goes wrong?

There are plenty of problems with Log Horizon. Not being dark isn't one of them. Even when they put on kiddy gloves to make it airable on NHK.


Lets be honest here, darkness = popularity. Lets take a look back into history into some of the most popular anime of all time outside of the big 3 (One Piece, Bleach, Gintama).

Death Note, SNK, Ano Hana, Madoka Magica, Steins Gate, Code Geass, Monster all very popular anime and all very dark.
People want to see fucked up shit, hence why the news is always full of it. People want to see anti-heroes or disgusting and intelligent villains. People want to get that "holy shit wtf just happened" sensation when they watch not just anime, but any movie or tv show.

Dont get me wrong, there have been some really great slice of lifes like NHK, Usagi Drop & Clannad, but they were all very deep and master pieces in their own way. And these master pieces only come along ever so often.

Dark = profit

So, why are you omitting One Piece? Is it because its probably the most popular manga/anime of all time and doesn't fit your argument? Why are you completely ignore the massive, popular shounen genre? Code Geass is not "very dark", either, btw. Nor is it as popular as something like Gundam SEED Destiny (for the record, I think GSD is shit, but it is one of the most popular animes of all time). What you are doing is taking your own sensibilities and tastes, and blanketing them over "most people".

Your look into "history" is also hilarious. I guess the history of anime doesn't even go back more than 10 years for you?


When we look back into history, we also need to be realistic with how far we backtrack. The people who were watching anime 15 years ago, how many do you really think still watch anime religiously now? We need to look at this current generation and the predecessor generation to accurately gauge what is truly required now.

A better question is why does it matter? Does old anime stop existing after 15 years?

And this current generation seems to think a lot about One Piece, which you decided doesn't count. For some reason.

Running out of reasons, so have to include time as a limit to why anime must be dark to be popular.


You gravely misunderstand. Anime does not have to be dark, but there are instances where it needs to be.
LH is one of these. As mentioned earlier, I am enjoying Magi and KnB the most right now, both which aren't dark in the slightest. But thats because their settings are completely different and they are not put in a position where darkness is required.
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 15 2014 00:53 GMT
#68608
On January 15 2014 09:50 Incomplet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 09:48 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Baccano, FMA:B weren't very dark.


Bebop actually failed miserably in Japan. It was only mildly successful in the U.S. FMA:B had its moments of darkness, and it always had those very moments lingering in the background which is what drove the story. The compelling story and the laughs were a nice touch, but it was the darkness which was the backbone.

If FMA:B now qualifies as "dark", then why can't Log Horizon? lol
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-15 00:57:54
January 15 2014 00:54 GMT
#68609
On January 15 2014 09:53 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 09:50 Incomplet wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:48 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Baccano, FMA:B weren't very dark.


Bebop actually failed miserably in Japan. It was only mildly successful in the U.S. FMA:B had its moments of darkness, and it always had those very moments lingering in the background which is what drove the story. The compelling story and the laughs were a nice touch, but it was the darkness which was the backbone.

If FMA:B now qualifies as "dark", then why can't Log Horizon? lol

Because the only way to make something dark is to kill people and avoid lolis, Sent.

Scarily, Mahou Koukou fulfills that requirement. That means that's going to be massively popular. That means it is going to be harder to avoid getting random clips with Hayamin the one time she gets a role with lots of lines and won't die. With the tiny problem of it being a shit series and a char I hate with a passion. orz
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 15 2014 00:56 GMT
#68610
On January 15 2014 09:52 Incomplet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 09:50 Nagisama wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:48 Sentenal wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:46 Incomplet wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:40 Sentenal wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:34 Incomplet wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:22 Ecael wrote:
Did someone really just cite SAO for darker atmosphere and say that's where Log Horizon goes wrong?

There are plenty of problems with Log Horizon. Not being dark isn't one of them. Even when they put on kiddy gloves to make it airable on NHK.


Lets be honest here, darkness = popularity. Lets take a look back into history into some of the most popular anime of all time outside of the big 3 (One Piece, Bleach, Gintama).

Death Note, SNK, Ano Hana, Madoka Magica, Steins Gate, Code Geass, Monster all very popular anime and all very dark.
People want to see fucked up shit, hence why the news is always full of it. People want to see anti-heroes or disgusting and intelligent villains. People want to get that "holy shit wtf just happened" sensation when they watch not just anime, but any movie or tv show.

Dont get me wrong, there have been some really great slice of lifes like NHK, Usagi Drop & Clannad, but they were all very deep and master pieces in their own way. And these master pieces only come along ever so often.

Dark = profit

So, why are you omitting One Piece? Is it because its probably the most popular manga/anime of all time and doesn't fit your argument? Why are you completely ignore the massive, popular shounen genre? Code Geass is not "very dark", either, btw. Nor is it as popular as something like Gundam SEED Destiny (for the record, I think GSD is shit, but it is one of the most popular animes of all time). What you are doing is taking your own sensibilities and tastes, and blanketing them over "most people".

Your look into "history" is also hilarious. I guess the history of anime doesn't even go back more than 10 years for you?


When we look back into history, we also need to be realistic with how far we backtrack. The people who were watching anime 15 years ago, how many do you really think still watch anime religiously now? We need to look at this current generation and the predecessor generation to accurately gauge what is truly required now.

A better question is why does it matter? Does old anime stop existing after 15 years?

And this current generation seems to think a lot about One Piece, which you decided doesn't count. For some reason.

Running out of reasons, so have to include time as a limit to why anime must be dark to be popular.


You gravely misunderstand. Anime does not have to be dark, but there are instances where it needs to be.
LH is one of these. As mentioned earlier, I am enjoying Magi and KnB the most right now, both which aren't dark in the slightest. But thats because their settings are completely different and they are not put in a position where darkness is required.


What necessitates darkness in anime?
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 15 2014 00:57 GMT
#68611
On January 15 2014 09:50 Nagisama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 09:48 Sentenal wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:46 Incomplet wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:40 Sentenal wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:34 Incomplet wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:22 Ecael wrote:
Did someone really just cite SAO for darker atmosphere and say that's where Log Horizon goes wrong?

There are plenty of problems with Log Horizon. Not being dark isn't one of them. Even when they put on kiddy gloves to make it airable on NHK.


Lets be honest here, darkness = popularity. Lets take a look back into history into some of the most popular anime of all time outside of the big 3 (One Piece, Bleach, Gintama).

Death Note, SNK, Ano Hana, Madoka Magica, Steins Gate, Code Geass, Monster all very popular anime and all very dark.
People want to see fucked up shit, hence why the news is always full of it. People want to see anti-heroes or disgusting and intelligent villains. People want to get that "holy shit wtf just happened" sensation when they watch not just anime, but any movie or tv show.

Dont get me wrong, there have been some really great slice of lifes like NHK, Usagi Drop & Clannad, but they were all very deep and master pieces in their own way. And these master pieces only come along ever so often.

Dark = profit

So, why are you omitting One Piece? Is it because its probably the most popular manga/anime of all time and doesn't fit your argument? Why are you completely ignore the massive, popular shounen genre? Code Geass is not "very dark", either, btw. Nor is it as popular as something like Gundam SEED Destiny (for the record, I think GSD is shit, but it is one of the most popular animes of all time). What you are doing is taking your own sensibilities and tastes, and blanketing them over "most people".

Your look into "history" is also hilarious. I guess the history of anime doesn't even go back more than 10 years for you?


When we look back into history, we also need to be realistic with how far we backtrack. The people who were watching anime 15 years ago, how many do you really think still watch anime religiously now? We need to look at this current generation and the predecessor generation to accurately gauge what is truly required now.

A better question is why does it matter? Does old anime stop existing after 15 years?

And this current generation seems to think a lot about One Piece, which you decided doesn't count. For some reason.

Running out of reasons, so have to include time as a limit to why anime must be dark to be popular.

Its pretty funny when someone has to put a time limit on, and I quote, "the most popular anime of all time" to give himself some leyway.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
January 15 2014 00:58 GMT
#68612
On January 15 2014 09:52 Incomplet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 09:50 Nagisama wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:48 Sentenal wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:46 Incomplet wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:40 Sentenal wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:34 Incomplet wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:22 Ecael wrote:
Did someone really just cite SAO for darker atmosphere and say that's where Log Horizon goes wrong?

There are plenty of problems with Log Horizon. Not being dark isn't one of them. Even when they put on kiddy gloves to make it airable on NHK.


Lets be honest here, darkness = popularity. Lets take a look back into history into some of the most popular anime of all time outside of the big 3 (One Piece, Bleach, Gintama).

Death Note, SNK, Ano Hana, Madoka Magica, Steins Gate, Code Geass, Monster all very popular anime and all very dark.
People want to see fucked up shit, hence why the news is always full of it. People want to see anti-heroes or disgusting and intelligent villains. People want to get that "holy shit wtf just happened" sensation when they watch not just anime, but any movie or tv show.

Dont get me wrong, there have been some really great slice of lifes like NHK, Usagi Drop & Clannad, but they were all very deep and master pieces in their own way. And these master pieces only come along ever so often.

Dark = profit

So, why are you omitting One Piece? Is it because its probably the most popular manga/anime of all time and doesn't fit your argument? Why are you completely ignore the massive, popular shounen genre? Code Geass is not "very dark", either, btw. Nor is it as popular as something like Gundam SEED Destiny (for the record, I think GSD is shit, but it is one of the most popular animes of all time). What you are doing is taking your own sensibilities and tastes, and blanketing them over "most people".

Your look into "history" is also hilarious. I guess the history of anime doesn't even go back more than 10 years for you?


When we look back into history, we also need to be realistic with how far we backtrack. The people who were watching anime 15 years ago, how many do you really think still watch anime religiously now? We need to look at this current generation and the predecessor generation to accurately gauge what is truly required now.

A better question is why does it matter? Does old anime stop existing after 15 years?

And this current generation seems to think a lot about One Piece, which you decided doesn't count. For some reason.

Running out of reasons, so have to include time as a limit to why anime must be dark to be popular.


You gravely misunderstand. Anime does not have to be dark, but there are instances where it needs to be.
LH is one of these. As mentioned earlier, I am enjoying Magi and KnB the most right now, both which aren't dark in the slightest. But thats because their settings are completely different and they are not put in a position where darkness is required.

Magi - antagonists want to plunge the world into darkness: not dark in the slightest.
AnoHana - former friends reconcile their friendship: VERY DARK.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
January 15 2014 00:58 GMT
#68613
On January 15 2014 09:53 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 09:50 Incomplet wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:48 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Baccano, FMA:B weren't very dark.


Bebop actually failed miserably in Japan. It was only mildly successful in the U.S. FMA:B had its moments of darkness, and it always had those very moments lingering in the background which is what drove the story. The compelling story and the laughs were a nice touch, but it was the darkness which was the backbone.

If FMA:B now qualifies as "dark", then why can't Log Horizon? lol


cos in FMA:B the main character gets his arm ripped off and his brother loses his whole body with blood splattered all over the place from the get go. And LH you get lolis calling you master, random busty girls roleplaying overly friendly retards who hugs everyone & no fear of death due to respawns. Big difference quite evidently.
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
January 15 2014 00:59 GMT
#68614
On January 15 2014 09:58 KazeHydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 09:52 Incomplet wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:50 Nagisama wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:48 Sentenal wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:46 Incomplet wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:40 Sentenal wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:34 Incomplet wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:22 Ecael wrote:
Did someone really just cite SAO for darker atmosphere and say that's where Log Horizon goes wrong?

There are plenty of problems with Log Horizon. Not being dark isn't one of them. Even when they put on kiddy gloves to make it airable on NHK.


Lets be honest here, darkness = popularity. Lets take a look back into history into some of the most popular anime of all time outside of the big 3 (One Piece, Bleach, Gintama).

Death Note, SNK, Ano Hana, Madoka Magica, Steins Gate, Code Geass, Monster all very popular anime and all very dark.
People want to see fucked up shit, hence why the news is always full of it. People want to see anti-heroes or disgusting and intelligent villains. People want to get that "holy shit wtf just happened" sensation when they watch not just anime, but any movie or tv show.

Dont get me wrong, there have been some really great slice of lifes like NHK, Usagi Drop & Clannad, but they were all very deep and master pieces in their own way. And these master pieces only come along ever so often.

Dark = profit

So, why are you omitting One Piece? Is it because its probably the most popular manga/anime of all time and doesn't fit your argument? Why are you completely ignore the massive, popular shounen genre? Code Geass is not "very dark", either, btw. Nor is it as popular as something like Gundam SEED Destiny (for the record, I think GSD is shit, but it is one of the most popular animes of all time). What you are doing is taking your own sensibilities and tastes, and blanketing them over "most people".

Your look into "history" is also hilarious. I guess the history of anime doesn't even go back more than 10 years for you?


When we look back into history, we also need to be realistic with how far we backtrack. The people who were watching anime 15 years ago, how many do you really think still watch anime religiously now? We need to look at this current generation and the predecessor generation to accurately gauge what is truly required now.

A better question is why does it matter? Does old anime stop existing after 15 years?

And this current generation seems to think a lot about One Piece, which you decided doesn't count. For some reason.

Running out of reasons, so have to include time as a limit to why anime must be dark to be popular.


You gravely misunderstand. Anime does not have to be dark, but there are instances where it needs to be.
LH is one of these. As mentioned earlier, I am enjoying Magi and KnB the most right now, both which aren't dark in the slightest. But thats because their settings are completely different and they are not put in a position where darkness is required.

Magi - antagonists want to plunge the world into darkness: not dark in the slightest.
AnoHana - former friends reconcile their friendship: VERY DARK.


An animes tone isnt just about the story. Its about the music, the setting, the colors & theme.
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-15 01:02:41
January 15 2014 01:00 GMT
#68615
On January 15 2014 09:58 Incomplet wrote:
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On January 15 2014 09:53 Sentenal wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:50 Incomplet wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:48 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Baccano, FMA:B weren't very dark.


Bebop actually failed miserably in Japan. It was only mildly successful in the U.S. FMA:B had its moments of darkness, and it always had those very moments lingering in the background which is what drove the story. The compelling story and the laughs were a nice touch, but it was the darkness which was the backbone.

If FMA:B now qualifies as "dark", then why can't Log Horizon? lol


cos in FMA:B the main character gets his arm ripped off and his brother loses his whole body with blood splattered all over the place from the get go. And LH you get lolis calling you master, random busty girls roleplaying overly friendly retards who hugs everyone & no fear of death due to respawns. Big difference quite evidently.


And you don't like SnK??

ohboy i keep thinking you meant SnK when you said KnK earlier, ignore my post then xD
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 15 2014 01:02 GMT
#68616
On January 15 2014 09:58 Incomplet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 09:53 Sentenal wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:50 Incomplet wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:48 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Baccano, FMA:B weren't very dark.


Bebop actually failed miserably in Japan. It was only mildly successful in the U.S. FMA:B had its moments of darkness, and it always had those very moments lingering in the background which is what drove the story. The compelling story and the laughs were a nice touch, but it was the darkness which was the backbone.

If FMA:B now qualifies as "dark", then why can't Log Horizon? lol


cos in FMA:B the main character gets his arm ripped off and his brother loses his whole body with blood splattered all over the place from the get go. And LH you get lolis calling you master, random busty girls roleplaying overly friendly retards who hugs everyone & no fear of death due to respawns. Big difference quite evidently.

What about One Piece, is that dark too? I could mention several brutal scenes from that manga aimed at children that can match that.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
January 15 2014 01:02 GMT
#68617
On January 15 2014 09:58 Incomplet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 09:53 Sentenal wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:50 Incomplet wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:48 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Baccano, FMA:B weren't very dark.


Bebop actually failed miserably in Japan. It was only mildly successful in the U.S. FMA:B had its moments of darkness, and it always had those very moments lingering in the background which is what drove the story. The compelling story and the laughs were a nice touch, but it was the darkness which was the backbone.

If FMA:B now qualifies as "dark", then why can't Log Horizon? lol


cos in FMA:B the main character gets his arm ripped off and his brother loses his whole body with blood splattered all over the place from the get go. And LH you get lolis calling you master, random busty girls roleplaying overly friendly retards who hugs everyone & no fear of death due to respawns. Big difference quite evidently.

An anime's tone isn't just about the events. Its about the music, the setting, the colors & theme.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
January 15 2014 01:02 GMT
#68618
On January 15 2014 10:00 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 09:58 Incomplet wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:53 Sentenal wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:50 Incomplet wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:48 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Baccano, FMA:B weren't very dark.


Bebop actually failed miserably in Japan. It was only mildly successful in the U.S. FMA:B had its moments of darkness, and it always had those very moments lingering in the background which is what drove the story. The compelling story and the laughs were a nice touch, but it was the darkness which was the backbone.

If FMA:B now qualifies as "dark", then why can't Log Horizon? lol


cos in FMA:B the main character gets his arm ripped off and his brother loses his whole body with blood splattered all over the place from the get go. And LH you get lolis calling you master, random busty girls roleplaying overly friendly retards who hugs everyone & no fear of death due to respawns. Big difference quite evidently.


And you don't like KnK??


Nope. Way too rushed. Feels like a big cluster fuck watching it.
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-15 01:03:43
January 15 2014 01:02 GMT
#68619
On January 15 2014 09:58 Incomplet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 09:53 Sentenal wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:50 Incomplet wrote:
On January 15 2014 09:48 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Baccano, FMA:B weren't very dark.


Bebop actually failed miserably in Japan. It was only mildly successful in the U.S. FMA:B had its moments of darkness, and it always had those very moments lingering in the background which is what drove the story. The compelling story and the laughs were a nice touch, but it was the darkness which was the backbone.

If FMA:B now qualifies as "dark", then why can't Log Horizon? lol


cos in FMA:B the main character gets his arm ripped off and his brother loses his whole body with blood splattered all over the place from the get go. And LH you get lolis calling you master, random busty girls roleplaying overly friendly retards who hugs everyone & no fear of death due to respawns. Big difference quite evidently.

Let us reflect how a loli ghost of your childhood crush that only you can see and speaks to you childishly made AnoHana amazingly dark.

Oh wait I know, she is dead, that's why it is dark!
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
January 15 2014 01:05 GMT
#68620
Just watched the latest Magi ep. It was pretty dark.
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