EPTThere are plenty of problems with Log Horizon. Not being dark isn't one of them. Even when they put on kiddy gloves to make it airable on NHK.
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Ecael
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There are plenty of problems with Log Horizon. Not being dark isn't one of them. Even when they put on kiddy gloves to make it airable on NHK. | ||
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On January 15 2014 09:18 Zergneedsfood wrote: Texhnolyze is forever glory days. @Maru Generic inherently has a negative connotation though. I agree everything is about execution but if you describe something as "generic" that probably means its execution hasn't really helped it stand out from the rest of the average crowd. Hence why people say "oh this is another generic harem anime" or something like that. As to the best anime of 2013 discussion, I didn't watch all that much, but overall for the type of anime that came out it was a weak year for me. Kind of wish I had picked up Monogatari S2, but honestly I liked Bakemonogatari and stuff, but it was never something I would actively pick up and follow, so maybe some time down the line. I think if I had to compare the best anime this year (Most people would probably say Shingeki no Kyojin I'm assuming) to the best anime that most people liked in the last few years (Madoka, Steins;Gate, Fate/Zero), AoT doesn't really stand up to those three despite its popularity. You're right, maybe clichéd is a better word than generic for what I meant to say. As for Steins;Gate and F/Z, I think they're somewhat overrated (especially S;G) and there were quite a few better shows in the year they aired (2011 was amazing, so many great shows). And I wouldn't say SnK was the best this year. On January 15 2014 09:24 Ecael wrote: Please don't fix the quotes so I can pretend I am not being addressed here so I don't have to reply to that. lol | ||
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On January 15 2014 09:22 Ecael wrote: Did someone really just cite SAO for darker atmosphere and say that's where Log Horizon goes wrong? There are plenty of problems with Log Horizon. Not being dark isn't one of them. Even when they put on kiddy gloves to make it airable on NHK. Lets be honest here, darkness = popularity. Lets take a look back into history into some of the most popular anime of all time outside of the big 3 (One Piece, Bleach, Gintama). Death Note, SNK, Ano Hana, Madoka Magica, Steins Gate, Code Geass, Monster all very popular anime and all very dark. People want to see fucked up shit, hence why the news is always full of it. People want to see anti-heroes or disgusting and intelligent villains. People want to get that "holy shit wtf just happened" sensation when they watch not just anime, but any movie or tv show. Dont get me wrong, there have been some really great slice of lifes like NHK, Usagi Drop & Clannad, but they were all very deep and master pieces in their own way. And these master pieces only come along ever so often. Dark = profit | ||
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As for Steins;Gate and F/Z, I think they're somewhat overrated (especially S;G) and there were quite a few better shows in the year it aired (2011 was amazing, so many great shows). And I wouldn't say SnK was the best this year. I don't think they're the best things ever (S;G is ranked really high), but I still liked them. I was also just speaking from a "what do most people think was the best anime of that year." Obviously everyone has different opinions but I think it's safe to say an overwhelming majority of people would probably answer SnK, if only because that's the only anime they watched last year that they didn't drop. And yeah 2011 was pretty good if I recall correctly....but maybe I'm not recalling correctly. @__@ | ||
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On January 15 2014 08:30 Souma wrote: Yeah, the pacing is ridiculous. So much for that. To be fair, the adaptation of the manga is accurate. I tried to warn you but you were like NO SPOILERS!! | ||
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On January 15 2014 09:34 Incomplet wrote: ...Ano Hana...all very popular anime and all very dark. ![[image loading]](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-yW8qonOva5g/UQRUPm1VJiI/AAAAAAAAB_Q/OuEWbFkrkSM/s1600/tumblr_lodo9g0GOy1qbvovho2_400.gif) Anohana. Never forget. GRIMDARK ANIME + Show Spoiler + pls watch Texhnolyze before you say dark. Also, I hate the word "deep." Please don't use it. It hurts. ;___; | ||
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On January 15 2014 09:34 Incomplet wrote: Lets be honest here, darkness = popularity. Lets take a look back into history into some of the most popular anime of all time outside of the big 3 (One Piece, Bleach, Gintama). Death Note, SNK, Ano Hana, Madoka Magica, Steins Gate, Code Geass, Monster all very popular anime and all very dark. People want to see fucked up shit, hence why the news is always full of it. People want to see anti-heroes or disgusting and intelligent villains. People want to get that "holy shit wtf just happened" sensation when they watch not just anime, but any movie or tv show. Dont get me wrong, there have been some really great slice of lifes like NHK, Usagi Drop & Clannad, but they were all very deep and master pieces in their own way. And these master pieces only come along ever so often. Dark = profit People want a lot of stuff. Hentai gets a lot of profit too. You're pretty much ignoring every other amazing anime out there that's not "dark." On January 15 2014 09:36 KazeHydra wrote: To be fair, the adaptation of the manga is accurate. I tried to warn you but you were like NO SPOILERS!! It's that slow in the manga too? o_O | ||
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I am pretty sure I already posted a fair bit on the matter during the first month or so of the show airing because we had random crying about no permadeath and stuff. Sadly I can't actually find a post where I directly compared it to SAO, so you'll just have to settle looking at posts from me about Log Horizon around the second half of November. On January 15 2014 09:34 Incomplet wrote: Lets be honest here, darkness = popularity. Lets take a look back into history into some of the most popular anime of all time outside of the big 3 (One Piece, Bleach, Gintama). Death Note, SNK, Ano Hana, Madoka Magica, Steins Gate, Code Geass, Monster all very popular anime and all very dark. People want to see fucked up shit, hence why the news is always full of it. People want to see anti-heroes or disgusting and intelligent villains. People want to get that "holy shit wtf just happened" sensation when they watch not just anime, but any movie or tv show. Dont get me wrong, there have been some really great slice of lifes like NHK, Usagi Drop & Clannad, but they were all very deep and master pieces in their own way. And these master pieces only come along ever so often. Dark = profit I didn't know we were arguing about monetary profits rather than, you know, how something actually was. Then sure. Grimderp has worked out for Shingeki. One Piece would like to argue that it really isn't all that important after all with its domination for the last...decade, really. But what do we know. | ||
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Sentenal
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On January 15 2014 09:34 Incomplet wrote: Lets be honest here, darkness = popularity. Lets take a look back into history into some of the most popular anime of all time outside of the big 3 (One Piece, Bleach, Gintama). Death Note, SNK, Ano Hana, Madoka Magica, Steins Gate, Code Geass, Monster all very popular anime and all very dark. People want to see fucked up shit, hence why the news is always full of it. People want to see anti-heroes or disgusting and intelligent villains. People want to get that "holy shit wtf just happened" sensation when they watch not just anime, but any movie or tv show. Dont get me wrong, there have been some really great slice of lifes like NHK, Usagi Drop & Clannad, but they were all very deep and master pieces in their own way. And these master pieces only come along ever so often. Dark = profit So, why are you omitting One Piece? Is it because its probably the most popular manga/anime of all time and doesn't fit your argument? Why are you completely ignore the massive, popular shounen genre? Code Geass is not "very dark", either, btw. Nor is it as popular as something like Gundam SEED Destiny (for the record, I think GSD is shit, but it is one of the most popular animes of all time). What you are doing is taking your own sensibilities and tastes, and blanketing them over "most people". Your look into "history" is also hilarious. I guess the history of anime doesn't even go back more than 10 years for you? | ||
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I can however say PP's Akane has to be my '2013 waifu', I was so involved into the character and literally begging urobuchi to not kill her in the end. That's love right there. and Uchoten Kazoku defo deserve to be mentioned in anything to do with 'animes in 2013'. | ||
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On January 15 2014 09:37 Souma wrote: People want a lot of stuff. Hentai gets a lot of profit too. You're pretty much ignoring every other amazing anime out there that's not "dark." It's that slow in the manga too? o_O Not if you read the second last line. Please go back and re-read it. I'm not saying all anime needs to be dark, but there are certain cases where it just needs to be otherwise it just seems out of place. And in this case I am referring to Log Horizon. People are stuck in a bloody computer game. And unless this is intentionally meant to be a comedy (which it isn't), this is actually srz buziness! And for the audience to take this situation seriously, the characters certainly need to be acting it! But instead its all fun and games and respawns. Oh the drudgery. | ||
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Yes, this is the part where nothing ever happens starts. | ||
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On January 15 2014 09:40 Sentenal wrote: So, why are you omitting One Piece? Is it because its probably the most popular manga/anime of all time and doesn't fit your argument? Why are you completely ignore the massive, popular shounen genre? Code Geass is not "very dark", either, btw. Nor is it as popular as something like Gundam SEED Destiny (for the record, I think GSD is shit, but it is one of the most popular animes of all time). What you are doing is taking your own sensibilities and tastes, and blanketing them over "most people". Your look into "history" is also hilarious. I guess the history of anime doesn't even go back more than 10 years for you? When we look back into history, we also need to be realistic with how far we backtrack. The people who were watching anime 15 years ago, how many do you really think still watch anime religiously now? We need to look at this current generation and the predecessor generation to accurately gauge what is truly required now. | ||
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