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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
May 15 2010 04:27 GMT
#5881
+ Show Spoiler [Angel Beats] +
Episode was kinda odd. After everything that happened last episode, Naoi just joins them? Even if death is cheap in their world, it still seems kinda weird to me. Also, we finally learn about Otonashi's past, but apparently it's of no importance to the story (Imouto? More like im-moe-to). I mean, he spends all of like five seconds lamenting his past, and that's it. I was expecting some sort of huge revelation after all the fuss they've made about his amnesia.


+ Show Spoiler [Durarara] +
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Weird game. Looks expensive to play.

Saki is kinda unnerving. Kadota, however, is pure awesome.

So Anri now knows that Kida's part of the yellow scarves. I'm not sure where this is all headed, seeing that we still have six episodes left in the series. Looking forward to further developments.


When's Black Rock Shooter coming out anyway?
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dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
May 15 2010 04:59 GMT
#5882
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Shinshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1237 Posts
May 15 2010 07:04 GMT
#5883
On May 15 2010 13:27 Spazer wrote:
When's Black Rock Shooter coming out anyway?


According to AniDB 25.06.2010 is the air date... I found the Angel Beats ep pretty awkward this time around as it seems to have all calmed down

+ Show Spoiler +
But the ending is so messed up.... lol hopefully it makes it interesting again...Also Otonashi's past is pretty weak as they don't explain everything but I guess they don't really want to get into it as its not very important...
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Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-15 08:22:32
May 15 2010 08:01 GMT
#5884
+ Show Spoiler [Angel Beats and DRRR] +
Angel Beats. It felt like a filler episode. Even with the entire Otonashi + Imouto thing. Naoi randomly joins. Creators try their best to make him a closet gay. Otonashi's past felt far too contrived. Creators keep us in the dark for 7 episodes to give us this backstory? There better be something else at work here in terms of Otonashi's background. You don't start out a story with something that vital missing and just have it become a non-issue later on.

Last part in the episode about the giant fish just felt far too silly. It felt very fillery. It made no sense and pretty much had no relevance to the main story. Tenshi apparently has super strength, even though there's no mention of this at any time prior to this point. Going back to the previous episode, was it really infeasible for her to just have busted through the door with super strength? The only potential reason for its inclusion would be the fact that Tachibana used Harmonics, which could have caused the entire cliff hanger at the end of the episode. Possibly. I hope that isn't the reason though. Would be FAR too bland.

And the reason why I'm writing like this is because 1) I'm tired, 2) I don't feel that the show deserves any effort in terms of what I write about it anymore.

About Durarara:

There are just huge chunks of information just missing from the episode that kind of made me blanch. We still have no idea as to how a middle school kid started the Yellow Scarves in the first place, or how the Blue Squares got started. We just have to accept that they exist. Just great. There's also a really weird disparity between the fact that Saki only got one leg broken but both her legs were in casts in that shot of her in the hospital. I also don't know how you can fall into a coma because of that. But ok, we'll believe it for now.

Meanwhile, I felt that the character development on Kida was a bit too... off key? I don't know the term I want to use. We got to see a good breadth of emotions from him, but we still lack any fundamental understanding of how Kida came to be who he is today. Anri had her family problems, Masaomi had his seclusion + countryside living stuff, Shizuo had his entire past spelled out to us, Izaya's a big question mark and should remain that way, Celty has her entire quest to find her head as a background, etc, etc. Kida is the last big question mark and I still don't know anything about him. I also didn't really get why he suddenly stopped running. The shot immediately prior to Kida stopping himself is Dotachin + Co driving off. I fail to see how that connects into Kida losing all motivation.

I did like some things about this episode though. Izumii's entire phone monologue was brilliantly done. The voice actor really had his stuff down, and I could feel the shivers running up my spine during that monologue. Just incredible. Most of everything concerning Izaya was well done as well. The symbolism of Izaya setting literally everything in his "game" on fire was worked into the story really smoothly and it felt pretty natural to me. Izaya's speech in the hospital on the Past was another high of this episode. I mean the way that the series has played out as always been an episode per character, giving us an in depth look as to the circumstances surrounding a character's current state. And that speech by Izaya kind of serves as a synthesis so to speak. It evoked, at least for me, the entire Celty's head and memories subplot earlier in the series, and how there was this eternal struggle for Celty to live in the Present or the Past. That tension was brought up again with Dotachin's lecture to Kida, which I really liked. Final Izaya thing was how he basically appeared in this episode. You really got the feeling: "Is there anything this guy CAN'T do?" He was the answer to literally every problem. And yet during the entire Izumii + Saki incident, I couldn't shake the feeling that Izaya told Izumii to kidnap Saki and break a leg. There's no evidence concerning the matter, but it just felt really appropriate.

I thought I wanted to talk about something else at length, but I can't remember it now, so I'll just revert to my superficial side. Walker is awesome. TK is awesome, needs more lines.
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SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
May 15 2010 08:08 GMT
#5885
I just watched School Days and it is the greatest anime ever okay.

And I'm now watching Jungle wa Itsumo Hale nochi Guu.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
May 15 2010 08:08 GMT
#5886
You should spoiler your stuff dude, especially the stuff that only came out this week.
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Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
May 15 2010 08:22 GMT
#5887
On May 15 2010 17:08 bubblegumbo wrote:
You should spoiler your stuff dude, especially the stuff that only came out this week.

Mmk.
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-15 08:39:29
May 15 2010 08:36 GMT
#5888
Mystlord, the ep6 part for AB, her issue was that the door is not recognized as a target. Her guard skills are only for self defense and defending others, directly. So while that super strength part seems like a joke, well, the way she was taking out guild traps looked rather comical too. Just a case of overpowered making things looking more amusing than they should.

As for Otonashi's backstory, Naoi and Yuri and Otonashi himself made it too big of a deal, it is bound to resurface if they have the time to do it. And now the question becomes "So how much is this suffering because of the length constriction?"
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
May 15 2010 08:39 GMT
#5889
On May 15 2010 17:36 Ecael wrote:
Mystlord, the ep6 part for AB, her issue was that the door is not recognized as a target. Her guard skills are only for self defense and defending others, directly. So while that super strength part seems like a joke, well, the way she was taking out guild traps looked rather comical too. Just a case of overpowered making things looking more amusing than they should.

And throwing Takeyama into the air while fishing is considered defense?
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-15 08:45:45
May 15 2010 08:41 GMT
#5890
On May 15 2010 17:39 Mystlord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2010 17:36 Ecael wrote:
Mystlord, the ep6 part for AB, her issue was that the door is not recognized as a target. Her guard skills are only for self defense and defending others, directly. So while that super strength part seems like a joke, well, the way she was taking out guild traps looked rather comical too. Just a case of overpowered making things looking more amusing than they should.

And throwing Takeyama into the air while fishing is considered defense?

When did we think Key makes things consistent across humor and serious sections? Not exactly a plus, but I had a laugh at that part and was willing to not care about why.

Honestly if we really cared, we can find some bullshit excuse to plug that, but I'd sooner just say that consistency hardly matters in that situation.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
May 15 2010 09:18 GMT
#5891
On May 15 2010 17:41 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2010 17:39 Mystlord wrote:
On May 15 2010 17:36 Ecael wrote:
Mystlord, the ep6 part for AB, her issue was that the door is not recognized as a target. Her guard skills are only for self defense and defending others, directly. So while that super strength part seems like a joke, well, the way she was taking out guild traps looked rather comical too. Just a case of overpowered making things looking more amusing than they should.

And throwing Takeyama into the air while fishing is considered defense?

When did we think Key makes things consistent across humor and serious sections? Not exactly a plus, but I had a laugh at that part and was willing to not care about why.

Honestly if we really cared, we can find some bullshit excuse to plug that, but I'd sooner just say that consistency hardly matters in that situation.

I'm conflicted as to whether I'm supposed to treat Angel Beats as a comedy or a drama. Stop giving me conflicting messages damn it!
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
May 15 2010 11:14 GMT
#5892
Key follows a pretty predictable formula...well, at least they did for Air, Clannad, and Kanon. They start things up light-heartedly with lots of humor and whatnot, trying to draw the audience into the characters and get them to empathize with them, then hit them in the face with a dramatic sledgehammer.

I haven't started Angel Beats yet, but maybe they're just softening you up for something CRAZY later?
Hello
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
May 15 2010 11:22 GMT
#5893
On May 15 2010 07:32 Mystlord wrote:
I don't remember any truly mind blowing Engrish... But whatever.

And for that chart you posted Spazer, it has the weirdest categorizations.




It's actually not abysmal when you take in that the person saying it probably doesn't really speak English. It's painfully obvious that it's not anywhere close to a native speaker though, and the character apparently is. Don't know what the general Japanese audience thought when they were watching it, but I'm sure it was acceptable to them. To native speakers on the other hand it's just downright grating and possibly hard to understand.
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Fumi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
529 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-15 13:13:09
May 15 2010 13:11 GMT
#5894


Engrish is always good. Though this one isn't so bad. I think.
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Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-15 14:12:53
May 15 2010 14:04 GMT
#5895
On May 15 2010 20:14 PH wrote:
Key follows a pretty predictable formula...well, at least they did for Air, Clannad, and Kanon. They start things up light-heartedly with lots of humor and whatnot, trying to draw the audience into the characters and get them to empathize with them, then hit them in the face with a dramatic sledgehammer.

I haven't started Angel Beats yet, but maybe they're just softening you up for something CRAZY later?


How could anyone even try to empathize with any of the so called characters in Angel Beats? They've outdone themselves this time, even if you could find the formulaic character generation in the previous VNs, this has taken it to an extreme level. I'm puzzled over how you guys actually managed to swallow it.

I even enjoy Ichiban a lot more this season, it's more straightforward harem-comedy than the keyshit. It's actually more straightforward than any harem I've seen - usually they tiptoe for 23 episodes with a lame excuse for a story and then something happens in the last episode. But in this one he has already captured all the sluts with his demon-lord charisma only a few episodes in. Reminds me of Akikan.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
May 15 2010 14:08 GMT
#5896
I don't think anyone's really fawning over AB atm O_o
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
May 15 2010 14:18 GMT
#5897
On May 15 2010 23:08 Southlight wrote:
I don't think anyone's really fawning over AB atm O_o


On May 09 2010 07:21 BrTarolg wrote:
Angel beats is awessommeeee

<3 tenshi <3


On May 09 2010 10:04 Ursadon-n-Pals wrote:
Angel Beats! is soo good. Key makes amazing stuff.
Haha 3 in a row.


On May 08 2010 20:07 Qikz wrote:
Really enjoyed Angel Beats again this week. Tenshi <3


On May 09 2010 11:19 neobowman wrote:
Key is brilliant. Seriously. Well, I haven't watched Angel Beats yet (Plan to watch when it's completed) but watching the other Key adaptations and playing the VNs already tell me that it's going to be awesome.


On May 02 2010 07:40 BrTarolg wrote:
Angel beats! Is awesome

Poor angel i feel so bad for her :<

I hope she becomes a good guy later on in the series



and so on!
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
May 15 2010 14:35 GMT
#5898
Ah, didn't really catch those three people (neo hardly counts; he hasn't actually seen it yet as of that post).
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-15 16:49:49
May 15 2010 16:49 GMT
#5899
@Engrish: I feel fortunate that I never watched those two animes then

On May 15 2010 20:14 PH wrote:
Key follows a pretty predictable formula...well, at least they did for Air, Clannad, and Kanon. They start things up light-heartedly with lots of humor and whatnot, trying to draw the audience into the characters and get them to empathize with them, then hit them in the face with a dramatic sledgehammer.

I haven't started Angel Beats yet, but maybe they're just softening you up for something CRAZY later?

I have to agree with Shauni here. But if there's one thing Key knew not to do in those shows, it's to mix comedy and drama. Did we ever once during, say, Ichinose's arc see them try to have Tomoya working on the garden in the first 2/3s, then *insert random comedic moment here*, then revert back to a scene of Ichinose crying? Thought not. MJ has clearly outdone himself here =_=.

On May 15 2010 23:08 Southlight wrote:
I don't think anyone's really fawning over AB atm O_o

Hahaha... You can probably find this on any anime board, but I'll just pick a random one. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=129093&start=225

You can also scroll back through the pages, but that's probably a waste of your time. I believe that there is a greater fawn:dislike ratio in this thread though.
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Wineandbread
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2065 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-15 17:58:24
May 15 2010 17:43 GMT
#5900
I picked up Angel Beats like yesterday and so far it's pretty decent.

I agree that there do seem to be some inconsistencies in the plot. To me the episodes are a fairly disconnected from each other at the beginning, as in they don't have a main focus (or it's vague and not revealed yet... + Show Spoiler +
although ep 7 changed that a bit
)
Comedy just seems tacked on but I laughed at a few of the things. TK's a funny guy.

Still pretty quality though. Animation is very nice and I enjoy the OP a good deal. Kanade is kool too
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