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On December 05 2011 09:50 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 08:34 Ferrose wrote:On December 04 2011 23:37 Kupon3ss wrote:On December 04 2011 17:45 Ecael wrote:
The way Ferrose and Blast are posting is making me want to read the source materials/VNs these two are reading just so that I can bash their opinions with more elaborate posts. Why would u need to read the sources to bash? Because putting me down makes Ecael feel better about himself and makes him feel valid. And because Ecael likes to read series that he "hates." And Blasty, don't entertain Sentenal. He doesn't understand C^3, and is too dumb to realize that people can actually like it for the story. Honestly, C^3 isn't terrible. The story is decently coherent and actually makes sense in the universe itself. Like, even if someone doesn't like the plot, you have to give C^3 credit for being able to make sense. Shana, on the other hand, doesn't make a lick of sense with a bunch of random names that we don't care about and a bunch of powers that we haven't heard about before, regardless if it's good or not.
Yes! Someone who shares my opinion on Shana and C^3! God I love you now because now I dont feel left out or insane feeling like I am the only that doesnt get what going on in Shana. You took the word out of my mouth about how I feel about both the C3 and Shana.
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A lot of people seem to watch C3, and I feel a bit left out.
Since I dropped Haganai, should I start on C3 and see what all the fuss is about?
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On December 05 2011 17:27 SheaR619 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 09:50 Zergneedsfood wrote:On December 05 2011 08:34 Ferrose wrote:On December 04 2011 23:37 Kupon3ss wrote:On December 04 2011 17:45 Ecael wrote:
The way Ferrose and Blast are posting is making me want to read the source materials/VNs these two are reading just so that I can bash their opinions with more elaborate posts. Why would u need to read the sources to bash? Because putting me down makes Ecael feel better about himself and makes him feel valid. And because Ecael likes to read series that he "hates." And Blasty, don't entertain Sentenal. He doesn't understand C^3, and is too dumb to realize that people can actually like it for the story. Honestly, C^3 isn't terrible. The story is decently coherent and actually makes sense in the universe itself. Like, even if someone doesn't like the plot, you have to give C^3 credit for being able to make sense. Shana, on the other hand, doesn't make a lick of sense with a bunch of random names that we don't care about and a bunch of powers that we haven't heard about before, regardless if it's good or not. Yes! Someone who shares my opinion on Shana and C^3! God I love you now because now I dont feel left out or insane feeling like I am the only that doesnt get what going on in Shana. You took the word out of my mouth about how I feel about both the C3 and Shana.
I dont really get whats going on in Shana either but I havent seen the latest 4-5 epis of this season. Other than that the first 2 seasons are hardly any different from the kind of show C^3 is. Well in spirit anyway C^3 is the Shana formula for people with a different kind of fetish (pretty sure the niche is the kind that normal people pretend to get disgusted by but dont really give a shit about). Which is fine, but technically there is no more of a story to C^3 than there is to Shana. The latest season of Shana might be trying to get to elaborate and clever, again Ive only seen 3 episodes,
Ill catch up at some point, but just because C^3 seems like its going somewhere doesnt really make it any different because that can happen with pretty much any show with a plot. As for the coherence what is that exactly ? Ok we "wear out" curses by doing good things? Thats it, thats really all you have to do? Seems a bit easy no ?
You know why?
Because your only 10 episodes in, seeing as how its played out like a copy of Shana with the already mentioned nuanced differences, the more information you get revealed to you the more youll realise the general direction is the same. You know when wearing out the curses isnt just about doing good things. Or present 1 convoluted antagonist after the next with the traditional warped world views etc etc. Its really the same thing, its not bad per say and people like what they like but I dont think as an experience it is any different from Shana. So calling Shana bad while liking C^3 makes a little less sense to me.
Only thing different I can think of is that they started of the show as some lighthearted cutesey moe and then decided that shit needed to get real, essentially changing the order in which the "light" and "dark" got presented in Shana. Also they toned down the tsundere which isnt really a bid deal while C^3's dark is alot more disturbing than Shana's. That and they decided to make a side character the center of attention in the latest OP, which still makes absolutely no sense but it doesnt bother me, its just a bad indicator of what they plan to do "we will use this girl to fullfil all your twisted S&M desires in ways hentai simply cannot so we made a new OP just for you to fantasize over this girl even more."
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On December 05 2011 17:19 potchip wrote:
So, the power level of mech just fluctuates because...it's about 'show this one for 3 sec because that's enough to sell the 50k bandai's going to produce' and show that other one doing stupid maneuvers for 20 min because it will sell 2 million? Cool beans Kshatriya uses funnels, and uses it every now and then until it decides to do some light saber action with a frigging grunt. The equivalent in B grade TV is when Hercules would decides to do a 360 then 180 degree spin and blocks the incoming blow, that was full frontal, with his back against the attacker. Yep. The point is the fights has zero suspense because the mechs just there going through motions (Char's counter attack does this WAY better), you'll bet Kshatriya will blow up not because it is outmatched but because the director says it's time to advance the plot. Had a laugh with the airbags though. They are 5-star crash rated!
Is Gundam also some elitist propaganda or what? Every character is some princess/offspring of some family because you know, to show worlds colliding you need these big-shots-from-birth to symbolize the fractions. Pretend-grandoise - starts with a speech within the first 5 min, ends with a long speech about nothingness. I guess part of the new-type ability is to be at the right place at the right time with everything handed on a platter.
Of course just ep1, opinion may change.
Power levels... Fluctuates? Funnels are psycommu weapons that allow Newtypes to control the funnels with their mind. The fact that the Stark Jegan avoided the funnels to focus on a close range battle is enough to take her concentration off of funnels, and onto parrying the Jegan's attack. That was the "grunt" using tactics to try and make up the difference between their Mobile Suits, which in the end didn't matter anyway since it got killed. There really isn't any power level fluctuations at all in Unicorn, so IDK what you are talking about.
Instead of giving vaguely referring to things in the show, and then comparing them to "B Grade TV", could you tell me what you are specifically talking about? How did CCA do anything better than what was shown in episode 1? There isn't a single Gundam show out there with better choreographed fights, so that can't be what you are complaining about. It was a foregone conclusion in CCA that Amuro would wreck everyone's shit, and are you complaining that it is a foregone conclusion that the MC here will do the same to the Kshatriya? Clearly our views on the show are drastically different, so if we are going to discuss this stuff, you need to be a bit more specific.
Pretend-grandiose, aka speech that you didn't care for. Well, thats just, you know, your opinion man lol. The speech at the beginning and the end aren't even meaningless, and are strongly tied to the entire theme of UC Gundam. Minerva's presence is also a continuation of already established storylines dating all the way back to the original Gundam. Honestly most of the specific stuff you mention just sounds like complaining for the sake of it.
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On December 05 2011 18:32 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 17:19 potchip wrote:
So, the power level of mech just fluctuates because...it's about 'show this one for 3 sec because that's enough to sell the 50k bandai's going to produce' and show that other one doing stupid maneuvers for 20 min because it will sell 2 million? Cool beans Kshatriya uses funnels, and uses it every now and then until it decides to do some light saber action with a frigging grunt. The equivalent in B grade TV is when Hercules would decides to do a 360 then 180 degree spin and blocks the incoming blow, that was full frontal, with his back against the attacker. Yep. The point is the fights has zero suspense because the mechs just there going through motions (Char's counter attack does this WAY better), you'll bet Kshatriya will blow up not because it is outmatched but because the director says it's time to advance the plot. Had a laugh with the airbags though. They are 5-star crash rated!
Is Gundam also some elitist propaganda or what? Every character is some princess/offspring of some family because you know, to show worlds colliding you need these big-shots-from-birth to symbolize the fractions. Pretend-grandoise - starts with a speech within the first 5 min, ends with a long speech about nothingness. I guess part of the new-type ability is to be at the right place at the right time with everything handed on a platter.
Of course just ep1, opinion may change.
Power levels... Fluctuates? Funnels are psycommu weapons that allow Newtypes to control the funnels with their mind. The fact that the Stark Jegan avoided the funnels to focus on a close range battle is enough to take her concentration off of funnels, and onto parrying the Jegan's attack. That was the "grunt" using tactics to try and make up the difference between their Mobile Suits, which in the end didn't matter anyway since it got killed. There really isn't any power level fluctuations at all in Unicorn, so IDK what you are talking about. Instead of giving vaguely referring to things in the show, and then comparing them to "B Grade TV", could you tell me what you are specifically talking about? How did CCA do anything better than what was shown in episode 1? There isn't a single Gundam show out there with better choreographed fights, so that can't be what you are complaining about. It was a foregone conclusion in CCA that Amuro would wreck everyone's shit, and are you complaining that it is a foregone conclusion that the MC here will do the same to the Kshatriya? Clearly our views on the show are drastically different, so if we are going to discuss this stuff, you need to be a bit more specific. Pretend-grandiose, aka speech that you didn't care for. Well, thats just, you know, your opinion man lol. The speech at the beginning and the end aren't even meaningless, and are strongly tied to the entire theme of UC Gundam. Minerva's presence is also a continuation of already established storylines dating all the way back to the original Gundam. Honestly most of the specific stuff you mention just sounds like complaining for the sake of it.
Pff humans aiming weapons in space? now I know ur trolling
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Um... So Im currently watching Ben-to 09 and wtf?
Its like fanservice galore this time around. I mean, fanservice fanservice fanservice.
Not that Im complaining, but it seems that this week's aired anime eps are totally focused on fanservice-uu.
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On December 05 2011 20:01 Emnjay808 wrote:
Um... So Im currently watching Ben-to 09 and wtf?
Its like fanservice galore this time around. I mean, fanservice fanservice fanservice.
Not that Im complaining, but it seems that this week's aired anime eps are totally focused on fanservice-uu.
it's normal isnt it? Every anime has at least one service episode
and personally I liked the episode, always good to see more Shiraume ^^
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On December 05 2011 20:01 Emnjay808 wrote:
Um... So Im currently watching Ben-to 09 and wtf?
Its like fanservice galore this time around. I mean, fanservice fanservice fanservice.
Not that Im complaining, but it seems that this week's aired anime eps are totally focused on fanservice-uu.
I don't think we'll be getting any more story arcs. Just some random patched up episodes with the cast. I actually loled pretty hard at this episode. + Show Spoiler +How Shiraume sexually harassed Oshiroi (yuri) while Oshiroi herself loves and writes yaoi. And of course Sato getting abused by Shiraume and starting to like it.
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On December 05 2011 20:06 Latham wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 20:01 Emnjay808 wrote:
Um... So Im currently watching Ben-to 09 and wtf?
Its like fanservice galore this time around. I mean, fanservice fanservice fanservice.
Not that Im complaining, but it seems that this week's aired anime eps are totally focused on fanservice-uu. I don't think we'll be getting any more story arcs. Just some random patched up episodes with the cast. I actually loled pretty hard at this episode. + Show Spoiler +How Shiraume sexually harassed Oshiroi (yuri) while Oshiroi herself loves and writes yaoi. And of course Sato getting abused by Shiraume and starting to like it.
+ Show Spoiler +I liked the part where the twin girl was bent over the table. I just... Oh god... Oh godd...
I particularly dont like yuri, but Shiraume looked super hot nonetheless.
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Related to Unicorn:
10:21 kupon3ss but riddhe is a different character every 5 minutes
10:21 kupon3ss because shit effects him
10:22 kupon3ss and changes his world view
10:22 kupon3ss and because he's an indecisive little bitch
10:22 kupon3ss but its all consistent imo
10:22 Seki maybe if you've read the book
10:22 kupon3ss maybe
10:22 Seki as someone who hasn't bothered
10:22 Seki it looks like
10:22 Seki he stubs a toe
10:23 Seki and decides that every chair is a fucktard
10:23 Seki but then someone kills one
10:23 Seki and he breaks down in tears
10:23 Seki only to realize
10:23 Seki that he can't brush away his tears with his toe
10:23 Seki and so for vengeance he goes apeshit
10:23 Seki and kills the person who destroyed said chair
10:23 Seki ... with his toe
10:24 kupon3ss well he gets a toe transplant later
10:24 kupon3ss and will try to rape all the chairs of the world
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On December 05 2011 20:01 Emnjay808 wrote:
Um... So Im currently watching Ben-to 09 and wtf?
Its like fanservice galore this time around. I mean, fanservice fanservice fanservice.
Not that Im complaining, but it seems that this week's aired anime eps are totally focused on fanservice-uu.
+ Show Spoiler +I've only watched it because the fight scenes are decent. Watching the pointless Shiraume scene with Oshiroi as well as beating on Sato are not remotely entertaining to me.
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Few chapters this morning:
GE:
+ Show Spoiler +Risa once again gets into something because she's too dumb/timid to say something for herself. Nice to see blonde friend be more than something than an interesting background character for once. I really didn't expect Utsumi to say something to Yuki though, that was a genuine surprise for me that he was actually straightforward about something for once.
And the Christmas special was actually pretty funny.
Bakuman:
+ Show Spoiler +I think the characters in this stay fresh, but the whole thing where they go from #1 to "oh no, we're losing readers, better do something drastic!" is getting a bit repetitive. I guess it's realistic. The idea of making this a short series after forcing Jump to take it on seems interesting, I suppose.
Liar Game:
+ Show Spoiler +Good to see there's still a bit of intrigue to this. I'm still not sure it'll measure up to how it started, though. Yokoya has potential to be an awesome adversary, though. My first impression was that he has an inside source of information, maybe the chick coordinator?
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On December 06 2011 01:34 Requizen wrote:Few chapters this morning: GE: + Show Spoiler +Risa once again gets into something because she's too dumb/timid to say something for herself. Nice to see blonde friend be more than something than an interesting background character for once. I really didn't expect Utsumi to say something to Yuki though, that was a genuine surprise for me that he was actually straightforward about something for once.
And the Christmas special was actually pretty funny. Bakuman: + Show Spoiler +I think the characters in this stay fresh, but the whole thing where they go from #1 to "oh no, we're losing readers, better do something drastic!" is getting a bit repetitive. I guess it's realistic. The idea of making this a short series after forcing Jump to take it on seems interesting, I suppose. Liar Game: + Show Spoiler +Good to see there's still a bit of intrigue to this. I'm still not sure it'll measure up to how it started, though. Yokoya has potential to be an awesome adversary, though. My first impression was that he has an inside source of information, maybe the chick coordinator?
GE+ Show Spoiler + The blond guy side character is a real bro =). I've read a few romance manga over the last week and I still like GE the best. The characters and the art seem so different to all the rest. Really like it. Yuki and Shou are good heroines. Utsumi grew a pair. Hard to believe.
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@Mirai nikki ep 9
+ Show Spoiler +Ah I just love when story just keeps interesting. I read last 2 chapters of manga and still story is fascinating. Hah who would've expected what just happened? Maybe it was obvious then but I liked the way things turned. Yuno was yuno and Yukkii just told a interesting lie. :O another week now omg.
@Omamori himari
+ Show Spoiler +Ah, I', going to finish this in next hour but I'm kind of disappointed at the story in the end. It feels very shounen even when it's ~about rated 18. Story is somewhat obvious, it isn't deep. Catgirl is plus tho. =D Haven't seen those for a while. Anime reminds me of C3. Ah, I should be more picky now in future with animes so I don't get stuck into another one like these when it's entertaining enough to keep you watching but takes that 12 x 22m worth of time.
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On December 05 2011 17:42 Emnjay808 wrote:
A lot of people seem to watch C3, and I feel a bit left out.
Since I dropped Haganai, should I start on C3 and see what all the fuss is about?
Yes. C^3 is a very good show. Don't listen to the haters.
On December 05 2011 17:19 potchip wrote:
So, the power level of mech just fluctuates because...it's about 'show this one for 3 sec because that's enough to sell the 50k bandai's going to produce' and show that other one doing stupid maneuvers for 20 min because it will sell 2 million? Cool beans Kshatriya uses funnels, and uses it every now and then until it decides to do some light saber action with a frigging grunt. The equivalent in B grade TV is when Hercules would decides to do a 360 then 180 degree spin and blocks the incoming blow, that was full frontal, with his back against the attacker. Yep. The point is the fights has zero suspense because the mechs just there going through motions (Char's counter attack does this WAY better), you'll bet Kshatriya will blow up not because it is outmatched but because the director says it's time to advance the plot. Had a laugh with the airbags though. They are 5-star crash rated!
Is Gundam also some elitist propaganda or what? Every character is some princess/offspring of some family because you know, to show worlds colliding you need these big-shots-from-birth to symbolize the fractions. Pretend-grandoise - starts with a speech within the first 5 min, ends with a long speech about nothingness. I guess part of the new-type ability is to be at the right place at the right time with everything handed on a platter.
Of course just ep1, opinion may change.
Good job dude. You are either a very high level troll, or you have a very cynical world view. Either way I applaud you.
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On December 05 2011 17:58 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 17:27 SheaR619 wrote:On December 05 2011 09:50 Zergneedsfood wrote:On December 05 2011 08:34 Ferrose wrote:On December 04 2011 23:37 Kupon3ss wrote:On December 04 2011 17:45 Ecael wrote:
The way Ferrose and Blast are posting is making me want to read the source materials/VNs these two are reading just so that I can bash their opinions with more elaborate posts. Why would u need to read the sources to bash? Because putting me down makes Ecael feel better about himself and makes him feel valid. And because Ecael likes to read series that he "hates." And Blasty, don't entertain Sentenal. He doesn't understand C^3, and is too dumb to realize that people can actually like it for the story. Honestly, C^3 isn't terrible. The story is decently coherent and actually makes sense in the universe itself. Like, even if someone doesn't like the plot, you have to give C^3 credit for being able to make sense. Shana, on the other hand, doesn't make a lick of sense with a bunch of random names that we don't care about and a bunch of powers that we haven't heard about before, regardless if it's good or not. Yes! Someone who shares my opinion on Shana and C^3! God I love you now because now I dont feel left out or insane feeling like I am the only that doesnt get what going on in Shana. You took the word out of my mouth about how I feel about both the C3 and Shana. I dont really get whats going on in Shana either but I havent seen the latest 4-5 epis of this season. Other than that the first 2 seasons are hardly any different from the kind of show C^3 is. Well in spirit anyway C^3 is the Shana formula for people with a different kind of fetish (pretty sure the niche is the kind that normal people pretend to get disgusted by but dont really give a shit about). Which is fine, but technically there is no more of a story to C^3 than there is to Shana. The latest season of Shana might be trying to get to elaborate and clever, again Ive only seen 3 episodes, Ill catch up at some point, but just because C^3 seems like its going somewhere doesnt really make it any different because that can happen with pretty much any show with a plot. As for the coherence what is that exactly ? Ok we "wear out" curses by doing good things? Thats it, thats really all you have to do? Seems a bit easy no ? You know why? Because your only 10 episodes in, seeing as how its played out like a copy of Shana with the already mentioned nuanced differences, the more information you get revealed to you the more youll realise the general direction is the same. You know when wearing out the curses isnt just about doing good things. Or present 1 convoluted antagonist after the next with the traditional warped world views etc etc. Its really the same thing, its not bad per say and people like what they like but I dont think as an experience it is any different from Shana. So calling Shana bad while liking C^3 makes a little less sense to me. Only thing different I can think of is that they started of the show as some lighthearted cutesey moe and then decided that shit needed to get real, essentially changing the order in which the "light" and "dark" got presented in Shana. Also they toned down the tsundere which isnt really a bid deal while C^3's dark is alot more disturbing than Shana's. That and they decided to make a side character the center of attention in the latest OP, which still makes absolutely no sense but it doesnt bother me, its just a bad indicator of what they plan to do "we will use this girl to fullfil all your twisted S&M desires in ways hentai simply cannot so we made a new OP just for you to fantasize over this girl even more."
I'm replying to this partly because of the fail Shana comparison but also because it has a good bulk to discuss so this post is also aimed at everyone else arguing over C^3.
C^3 is just like first 2 seasons of Shana lol? Sure, in the most general sense of a plot. The overarching theme, actual storyline, the world it's set in, the reason for fighting, all of this is different. You can only really argue that for Shana 2 because it was full of high school drama for the most part. Saying C^3 is using Shana's formula...well yeah because both are using a very generic formula. You can say this for a ton of anime; that doesn't mean they're that close. Shana is trying to get clever? It's based on a light novel so you could've gone and read everything that season 3 will cover years ago. It's just that the producers finally decided to animate the important stuff.
C^3 has more of a story than Shana? This is completely wrong. Shana's plot and point which you seem to be completely missing aside, C^3 lacks any form of overarching plot. It has several very short arcs which individually make a simple, coherent story but add nothing to a long term plot; a slightly difference approach to the harem genre, but plotless harem nonetheless. However, the interesting thing is that it has a very strong running theme throughout. Whoever is deciding to reinforce this theme everywhere is stupid because it's like they're just putting it everywhere in places it doesn't belong. It doesn't help that half the show is moe fan service either. I suppose if I want to be as optimistic as possible, I would claim that this show juxtaposes the happiness and innocence of one's life with the darker side of life of despair, suffering, curses, etc...lol (I actually feel like this is the attempt but it's being done extremely poorly). But it's true that this theme of inward suffering is all over the place and why some people might consider the anime to be more than mindless moe. The thing is, if C^3 is really about that and the point of the plot is "healing your suffering" or something like that, it's doing a terrible job of it. It's focusing too much of the theme of curses and too little on advancement of any plot (along with a ton of "juxtaposition" of moe). "Only 10 episodes in?" Yeah, out of 12. It may have "played out" like Shana, but Shana could afford to due that because it still had the second half of the season to introduce the real plot. As a note, he wasn't calling Shana bad, he was saying C^3 is better in the sense of being simplistic while Shana 3 has been somewhat confusing for anyone who hasn't read spoilers/the novel. You can understand the basics of what's happening but not the details; C^3 is simple enough that you understand the "plot" without much thought. Regardless, I really don't see how it's possible to get the same experience from watching Shana and C^3, unless you categorize all romance+action anime under the same experience in which case I feel bad for you for being unable to distinguish between shows of the same genre.
I don't know what you mean by the "light" and "dark" of Shana. Shana was never about juxtaposing light and dark themes, unless you consider any form of battle "dark." The fights in C^3 are a clear attempt at darkening the anime, on the other hand, along with many of the conversations. I mentioned it before, but the drastic change in coloring, facial expressions, tone of voice make this apparent. If you look at the latest "controversial" scene, it's a clear form of fan service but if you actually listen/read what they're saying, it follows the previous allusions to inward suffering and that stuff, a recurring theme. Shana from the beginning was about Flame Hazes battling to protect humans and Yuji's story of his involvement in this battle. The high school romance in season 1 was actually decent in developing Shana as a character who started off as an apathetic Flame Haze with no interest in humans. As for season 2, I can't really claim that was good. I still wouldn't call season 3 dark though just because there's a war, and it seems like you're missing the big difference between something serious and something dark.
10 episodes in, (again, out of 12, so don't make it sound like there's a high chance for some change in direction to occur) and I still don't know what to think of this show. To begin with, I watched it for Saito Chiwa for the most part and she's gotten completely ignored. With episode 1, I think most people realized this show had the possibility to be something completely different than moe fan service. In the end, this show has way too much fan service to be taken seriously, but if you extracted only the darker scenes (and there's still a good amount of those), you would never guess it came from something like C^3. All I can say is the producers had an interesting idea, but fumbled around with it and couldn't decide how to play it out so instead they kept doing the same stuff as episode 1: lots of happy, moe fan service followed by drastic shifts in mood to illustrate some theme that they REALLY want to get across at the cost of everything else. They then try to combine this theme with fan service thinking people will watch it for the fan service and then reach some epiphany regarding some life-changing lesson of battling despair. Unfortunately, that doesn't work and you get pretty much the reactions in this thread. One of the biggest problems with the lack of plot was hinting at all these evil organizations that for some reason send 1 agent and then disappear and their purpose and supposed existence of "the final boss" ends. I said before, but what makes this show bad is the attempt at mixing dark themes with moe and fan service and then throwing in battles. You get a little of everything but as a result, nothing really good. It's something that a person can enjoy for a multitude of reasons but not something to watch if only interested in one, solid aspect. I feel sad I dedicated such a large post to C^3, but I suppose this is the result of not just the controversy it's had but also how confused I am about it because I still can't even subjectively say this is bad or this is good.
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KazeHydra you do know that C^3 is an LN too, right?
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They are the same formula for a show and I already highlighted the differences. Guy living alone, forced to live with new girl who pops up out of nowhere, has childhood friend etc etc.
Ofcourse you can say that for alot of shows and it provides the same general experience and that was my point. Naturally the setting and the reasons for fighting and all that jazz will be different. I dont know wether Shana is trying to get clever I havent seen S3 thats why I said "if" because people are saying they dont get it, it was an assumption. Ill admit though that Shana took its story progression a bit more seriously than C^3 has "thus far".
There wasnt much to understand about Shanas plot either, if you condense the first season or the second one for that matter. They just had more time to throw in the "pool" epis etc etc. I think C^3 managed just one so far.
As for "light" and "dark" . Things like Margery Daw going ape shit isnt an attempt at expressing a similar thing? Like I said its alot more pronounced in C^3. Which is why I called the show bipolar since its bouncing around the two every episode with the whole inner suffering, "which isnt really anybodys fault", o no waits its the humans, They are bad people so they turned us into bad things.
I didnt say they had the same story/plot at any point I dont even see why thats important.
Also I didnt say C^3 has more of a story, I said precisely the opposite. Hence the ?. So I dont get why you would pick up on that since its something we agree on. My entire premise was should this show go beyond 12 episodes you will start saying "Ohhhhhhh I think Ive seen this before."
You can talk about reasons for fighting and all that being different and the fact that Im generalizing romance action but theres alottt of romance action that dont follow this particular formula. Granted those arent very good shows either because those usually have the harem element more pronounced. The point is both shows lie on the same particular end of the spectrum.
edit: and yeah its an LN thats why I made the comment about 10 episodes in because even though there's 12 theres no telling how far theyll go with it, so its not like the people producing the anime are making this shit up on the fly.
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I like how people assume that things aren't being made up on the fly just because there is source material, especially since no one here actually reads the source material.
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