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If you come in here looking for "anime recommendations" then please refer to this chart before posting: Anime Recommendations (as of may 2014). We also have an IRC channel called #tladt where we all hang out. The channel is on Rizon, not QuakeNet! Feel free to check it out. TLADT discord is Discord.gg

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da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
December 06 2009 00:27 GMT
#3181
omg new code geass! *jizzed*
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
December 06 2009 01:11 GMT
#3182
On December 06 2009 09:27 da_head wrote:
omg new code geass! *jizzed*

-_-. What happened to + Show Spoiler +
word of god saying Lelouch died?


Well, I guess it won't be too bad.
Mori600
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Japan311 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-06 22:51:07
December 06 2009 01:18 GMT
#3183
I would not be surprise me if this one is Nightmare of Nunnally.
Build a man a fire, he will be warm for a night. Lite a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
December 06 2009 02:27 GMT
#3184
On December 06 2009 07:32 triangle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2009 14:36 Mystlord wrote:
Finished Haibane Renmei. My God the thing completely shifted tone halfway through. Well more like 3/4 of the way through.

I actually think there are several tone shifts in the show
+ Show Spoiler +
First 5 episodes are where Rakka thinks of Glei as a utopia, and the show is like a more mysterious version of Aria or something.

Then episode 6 is a total shock, where Rakka is first exposed to the darkness lurking beneath the surface of the show, we see Reki's inner turmoil for the first time, etc. A total shift towards extreme darkness that continues up until episode 9 when Rakka escapes the circle of sin.

Then the story finally moves to Reki, the "actual" main character (imo) and her struggles, which covers the rest of the plot.

One of my favorite things about Haibane Renmei is how it's dark, but the darkness is subtle and hidden. The theory I personally subscribe to regarding the identity of the haibane is that they are the souls of children in purgatory who have committed suicide. The cocoon dream reflects their last memories before death (Rakka kills herself by jumping down a well, Reki steps in front of a train, Kana drowns herself, Nemu takes sleeping pills, etc.). The haibane go on to heaven once they have accepted their own identities and embrace life.


I agree about the art unfortunately... there are some scenes where the art is just bad. At least the sensational soundtrack makes up for it.

As for original anime series... I just finished Eden of the East (well, the non- movie part anyway) and have mixed feelings. On the one hand, the art is SPECTACULAR, but the characters are weirdly uninteresting (at least for me), the plot is unnecessarily confused and odd in general, and the show just seemed... off. I dunno, it just came across as a huge waste of some sensational production values.

And what was with the obsession with naked men and penises? That show must have set some record for non-hentai male nudity.

Edit - FOR WHOEVER HADN'T WATCHED HARUHI WATCH IT NOW OMG.

I stick by my previous statement that there is one primary tone shift in the series, but I'll move the marker back to about half way through the show because I went back and double checked what happened in each episode (I thought the one regarding Kuu was later on for some reason). Here's my reasoning:
+ Show Spoiler +
For me, the only tone shift happens at the end of episode 6/beginning of episode 7. Yes there's a separation between the Rakka and Reki story arcs, but there's no separation in the overall tone guiding both of them - that of despair and finally salvation.


Now as for some analysis or speculation about the nature of the Haibane:
+ Show Spoiler +
I think the darkness is definitely not hidden, especially by the end of the show. Episodes 1-5 are definitely light and fluffy, and you don't get the sense that anything is wrong - You're still trying to get your bearings in this new world. By episode 6 though, you know something is wrong.

As for your suicide theory, I don't think it properly fits with some other elements in the show. For example, I honestly can't think of a way you can figure out how Kuu died (floating in the air?) or Hikari (surrounded by light?), not to mention the countless number of children in the story (how would they have killed themselves?). Not only that, but look at the other people that we know of. Hyohko (ice lake) could be construed to drowning in the winter or something like that, but Midori (greenery) and Kuramori (dark forest) are hard to guess. Oh by the way, for Rakka, I think falling from a cliff or something for that would be more appropriate because she wasn't surrounded by darkness.

In any case, I think that Glie is basically purgatory. However, it's not the Catholic purgatory. It's where one where those who have not ultimately understood life go. I can't really phrase it well, but think of it as a commentary on the human condition. The reason why you see primarily children as Haibane is because they are completely innocent and have not experienced the life they should have experienced (remember that the forms the Haibane take may not be the ones they had in their human life. An example would be that other Reki in a white dress at the end). Notice how Haibanes are supposed to live in Glie. They are to work, but not for money, but the right to live as they want. They do not work for material possessions, but rather for life experience. The cocoons serve as the means through which they are reborn from the end of their human lives to their Haibane lives. The dreams are a representation of their final moments in life. Not necessarily from suicide, but from natural death. It's still hard to find an EXACT death to match each one, but that's a minor point of the anime.

The major point is to emphasize what Abe thinks is important to human nature - understanding, compassion, and friendship. Those who have lost their way or have completely denied human connection become Sin-Bound. Reki stays a Sin-Bound because she rejects help from other Haibane, and Rakka rejects the world around her and its compassion towards her. And her actions in the previous life (rejecting human compassion and quite possibly killing herself) caused her to be born a Sin-Bound.


I could go on about the intricacies and analysis of multiple elements of the show, but then my post would turn rather long, so I'll leave it at that.

And I agree about the beauty of the soundtrack. Absolutely gorgeous.

I've already watched Eden of the East. Definitely an interesting show. I'm certain that there are many more religious allusions there than the obvious, but I'm just not a Bible reader so I'm probably missing a lot. The opening is really interesting though. I did learn what a NEET is though, so good for me on that
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
December 06 2009 03:22 GMT
#3185
Hmm, I looked around already but does anyone know what the trance song they had playing in Darker than Black S2 Episode 9 is?



Starts at 8:11, I first thought it was 4 Strings' Take Me Away into the Night, but it's not and not a remix of that song.
Get it by your hands...
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
December 06 2009 08:56 GMT
#3186
ok fine I'm dling haruhi atm

jeez
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
December 06 2009 19:04 GMT
#3187
oh wow kampfer is getting really interesting......
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
December 06 2009 19:18 GMT
#3188
Shizuku is the BEST female dominator EVER
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8032 Posts
December 06 2009 19:20 GMT
#3189
It only took them nine episodes to finally get the story rolling. ^^ How many more episodes are left in the series?
Liquipedia
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
December 07 2009 00:04 GMT
#3190
Isn't it 12 in this season?

But I would be surprised as hell if this was a one season anime
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
December 07 2009 00:18 GMT
#3191
Definately an anime deserving of 2 seasons, its definately the highlight of the winter season for me anyway

Even if youre not into fanservice/yuri its massively addictive and funny
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
December 08 2009 01:16 GMT
#3192
Denpateki na Kanojo ep2 raw finally comes out, they really should make the OVA 1hr each instead of trying to do it on 30min, cutting out sooooo much from the book. Well, in comparison to other adaptation works, the things that this cuts are much better selected. Such a shame that the author hasn't worked more on this series though, easily tops Kurenai in my opinion.
Mori600
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Japan311 Posts
December 08 2009 10:53 GMT
#3193
I just played Clannad after letting it sit for about 3 weeks and got the bad end in Kyou's route. Haha, if I cannot play a dating sim properly, then I do not even want to imagine skills in real life.
Build a man a fire, he will be warm for a night. Lite a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
December 08 2009 15:00 GMT
#3194
Kyou route is just annoying without a walkthrough, so many random branching choices near the end, one wrong one then bam, Ryou, bam, bad end, etc.

Rakkyo with an iso out, 7 gigs, rather sick. Proper rip please, my copy won't get to me for a while
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
December 08 2009 17:31 GMT
#3195
OH MY LORD

I am usually not the type for dark animes or anything

But i saw ONE episode of elfen lied and then marathoned the whole thing. JESUS CHRIST it is good i had absolutely no idea how good it was. And the OP track is absolutely amazing
Wow kinda sad it was all over after 6-7 hours lol.. i heard theres a lot more in the manga but the anime ending was pretty damn good too
Mori600
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Japan311 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-08 23:17:14
December 08 2009 23:15 GMT
#3196
On December 09 2009 00:00 Ecael wrote:
Kyou route is just annoying without a walkthrough, so many random branching choices near the end, one wrong one then bam, Ryou, bam, bad end, etc.


I can see why. Towards the end, I was actually beginning to like Ryou more. The first thing that came to my mind when I started dating Ryou was "Oh shit", I even mentioned it in this thread. I was wondering when I would be able to break up with Ryou and when the time came, I felt pretty happy but why break up with her at the moment when she becomes functional?

I must say, I am beginning to feel like an otaku playing this game. Even though this is the only bishojo game I have played and I have only watched about 30 anime series over a span of 6 years, Clannad is not a game I would want to bring up in a conversation.
Build a man a fire, he will be warm for a night. Lite a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life.
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
December 08 2009 23:17 GMT
#3197
i liked shizuka from the start

o and regarding code geass,
+ Show Spoiler +
lulu never died! he was driving the carriage at the end
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
December 08 2009 23:17 GMT
#3198
On December 06 2009 17:56 FragKrag wrote:
ok fine I'm dling haruhi atm

jeez

Watch the first season first...don't combine the first and second season chronologically.

Then make sure you watch the first season in broadcast order, not chronological order (wikipedia the episode list).
Hello
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
December 08 2009 23:18 GMT
#3199
On December 09 2009 08:17 da_head wrote:
i liked shizuka from the start

o and regarding code geass,
+ Show Spoiler +
lulu never died! he was driving the carriage at the end

AHOSDLFKJSDL:KFJ

that makes sense.. -______-
cw)minsean(ru
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-09 00:07:22
December 09 2009 00:04 GMT
#3200
About CG... + Show Spoiler +
I never understood why people want him to be alive. In his position, it is much better to be dead than alive. Thematically, it makes little sense to keep him alive either. So why insist that he is the one driving the carriage when we've had interviews saying that he is dead?


As for bishoujo game and otaku...well, eh. We don't see people looking like they should be ashamed because they read Twilight. Content and writing wise these games beat your typical romance novels more often than not. So if that's mainstream, then I see little issue in being called an otaku for enjoying these games.

With Ryou and Kyou, the main thing is that Ryou became functional by being more like Kyou, and Tomoya for the most part sees her as a substitute for Kyou. From our standpoint as the reader, that's fairly twisted. Since Key protagonists tend to be given enough introspection to consider those things...

Rakkyo needs to download faster, and ship faster, mostly the latter, except it doesn't matter with me anyway since I have to wait for the bakemonogatari preorders to release before shipping comes along.
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