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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 20 2013 20:19 GMT
#9901
On September 21 2013 05:14 sc2holar wrote:
The purpose or an arc can be to build up suspense, before a major anticlimax. Once again impel down is another example of this narrative technique. SHs may destroy the factory but CC seems to be back in DDs care.

not while Law holds CCs heart also Dolfa may play no more role in Laws plan at all so Law is there jsut to buy time to prevent DD from protecting the factory, he may have the ability to escape whenever he wants
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
September 20 2013 20:20 GMT
#9902
On September 21 2013 04:59 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 04:35 shark. wrote:
On September 21 2013 04:26 Forikorder wrote:
On September 21 2013 04:21 sc2holar wrote:
What part did law not explain? Make DD rewoke his warlord+king status so the WG sends their admirals after him. Find Factory, destroy it, while law makes the Exchange. It backfired completley. Law had his warlord status revoked because he was plain dumb and refused to call the strawhats his subordinates. Now luffy is trapped in the colosseum with the CP0 and marines sealing off the building and the Donquixote family overlooking the events, and law is getting shredded to pieces by DD while the Admiral looks on (though he is technically blind)

That is one mistake too many to survive in the new world imo. Especially when you are dealing with the guy Kuzan called the biggest threat since WBs death.

how about the part where all that related at all to taking down Kaidou?

I don't really understand what you just wrote but this is the New World. New World is meant to make the rest of the Grand Line look like a toddlers playground. For Law to fuck up this much and not even be at Kadiou should surely mean death. The Strawhats will probable escape with the mera (or not, its really up for grabs though i think luffy will fail here aswell) but I can find no logical reason of how they could possible succeed given how Vastly under prepared they are for what Law has dragged them into.

your assuming that the plan is so far going off the rails, the plan was to destroy the factory and hand over Caesor (most likely negotiate wsomething with Dofla while doing so) the Straw Hats are currently closing in on the Factory, so as long as Law escapes theres no hitchs in the plan

but if Law dies here then there was no point having punk hazard except to introduce Kinemon

The thing is they have no leverage for laws plan to work. Laws plan involved the Admirals going after DD to allow for everything to go ahead. This VITAL part to the plan has backfired so instead of DD being the Marines target Law himself aswell as the strawhats are the targets of an admiral and the marines as well as DDs crew members. DD is in full control of everything now and showed how painfully unaware some of the new generation are of how big the difference between their journeys so far and what the people in the New World count as everyday business.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 20 2013 20:22 GMT
#9903
On September 21 2013 05:20 shark. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 04:59 Forikorder wrote:
On September 21 2013 04:35 shark. wrote:
On September 21 2013 04:26 Forikorder wrote:
On September 21 2013 04:21 sc2holar wrote:
What part did law not explain? Make DD rewoke his warlord+king status so the WG sends their admirals after him. Find Factory, destroy it, while law makes the Exchange. It backfired completley. Law had his warlord status revoked because he was plain dumb and refused to call the strawhats his subordinates. Now luffy is trapped in the colosseum with the CP0 and marines sealing off the building and the Donquixote family overlooking the events, and law is getting shredded to pieces by DD while the Admiral looks on (though he is technically blind)

That is one mistake too many to survive in the new world imo. Especially when you are dealing with the guy Kuzan called the biggest threat since WBs death.

how about the part where all that related at all to taking down Kaidou?

I don't really understand what you just wrote but this is the New World. New World is meant to make the rest of the Grand Line look like a toddlers playground. For Law to fuck up this much and not even be at Kadiou should surely mean death. The Strawhats will probable escape with the mera (or not, its really up for grabs though i think luffy will fail here aswell) but I can find no logical reason of how they could possible succeed given how Vastly under prepared they are for what Law has dragged them into.

your assuming that the plan is so far going off the rails, the plan was to destroy the factory and hand over Caesor (most likely negotiate wsomething with Dofla while doing so) the Straw Hats are currently closing in on the Factory, so as long as Law escapes theres no hitchs in the plan

but if Law dies here then there was no point having punk hazard except to introduce Kinemon

The thing is they have no leverage for laws plan to work. Laws plan involved the Admirals going after DD to allow for everything to go ahead. This VITAL part to the plan has backfired so instead of DD being the Marines target Law himself aswell as the strawhats are the targets of an admiral and the marines as well as DDs crew members. DD is in full control of everything now and showed how painfully unaware some of the new generation are of how big the difference between their journeys so far and what the people in the New World count as everyday business.

see what your doing is assuming things then passing it off as fact

we only know that Law wanted Dofla to renounce his position and was concerned when Dessrossa was bussiness as usual for all we know he jsut wantes Dessrossa in chaos to make attacking the factory easier
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
September 20 2013 20:32 GMT
#9904
On September 21 2013 05:22 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 05:20 shark. wrote:
On September 21 2013 04:59 Forikorder wrote:
On September 21 2013 04:35 shark. wrote:
On September 21 2013 04:26 Forikorder wrote:
On September 21 2013 04:21 sc2holar wrote:
What part did law not explain? Make DD rewoke his warlord+king status so the WG sends their admirals after him. Find Factory, destroy it, while law makes the Exchange. It backfired completley. Law had his warlord status revoked because he was plain dumb and refused to call the strawhats his subordinates. Now luffy is trapped in the colosseum with the CP0 and marines sealing off the building and the Donquixote family overlooking the events, and law is getting shredded to pieces by DD while the Admiral looks on (though he is technically blind)

That is one mistake too many to survive in the new world imo. Especially when you are dealing with the guy Kuzan called the biggest threat since WBs death.

how about the part where all that related at all to taking down Kaidou?

I don't really understand what you just wrote but this is the New World. New World is meant to make the rest of the Grand Line look like a toddlers playground. For Law to fuck up this much and not even be at Kadiou should surely mean death. The Strawhats will probable escape with the mera (or not, its really up for grabs though i think luffy will fail here aswell) but I can find no logical reason of how they could possible succeed given how Vastly under prepared they are for what Law has dragged them into.

your assuming that the plan is so far going off the rails, the plan was to destroy the factory and hand over Caesor (most likely negotiate wsomething with Dofla while doing so) the Straw Hats are currently closing in on the Factory, so as long as Law escapes theres no hitchs in the plan

but if Law dies here then there was no point having punk hazard except to introduce Kinemon

The thing is they have no leverage for laws plan to work. Laws plan involved the Admirals going after DD to allow for everything to go ahead. This VITAL part to the plan has backfired so instead of DD being the Marines target Law himself aswell as the strawhats are the targets of an admiral and the marines as well as DDs crew members. DD is in full control of everything now and showed how painfully unaware some of the new generation are of how big the difference between their journeys so far and what the people in the New World count as everyday business.

see what your doing is assuming things then passing it off as fact

we only know that Law wanted Dofla to renounce his position and was concerned when Dessrossa was bussiness as usual for all we know he jsut wantes Dessrossa in chaos to make attacking the factory easier

From everything Law has said about his plan to DD it is quite clear that he knew that were DD to denouce his postion Admirals would be sent deal with him, were he to fail in the SAD production Kadoiu would be after him. Everything in Laws plan was to make DD the enemy. This has failed in every single way possible. Im not sure how you can think everything is going according to plan when Law is being fodderized infront of DD and an Admiral, DDs crew are of messing with everyone and Luffy is in an arena with Burgress and others while his ship has been made useless.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 20 2013 20:35 GMT
#9905
On September 21 2013 05:32 shark. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 05:22 Forikorder wrote:
On September 21 2013 05:20 shark. wrote:
On September 21 2013 04:59 Forikorder wrote:
On September 21 2013 04:35 shark. wrote:
On September 21 2013 04:26 Forikorder wrote:
On September 21 2013 04:21 sc2holar wrote:
What part did law not explain? Make DD rewoke his warlord+king status so the WG sends their admirals after him. Find Factory, destroy it, while law makes the Exchange. It backfired completley. Law had his warlord status revoked because he was plain dumb and refused to call the strawhats his subordinates. Now luffy is trapped in the colosseum with the CP0 and marines sealing off the building and the Donquixote family overlooking the events, and law is getting shredded to pieces by DD while the Admiral looks on (though he is technically blind)

That is one mistake too many to survive in the new world imo. Especially when you are dealing with the guy Kuzan called the biggest threat since WBs death.

how about the part where all that related at all to taking down Kaidou?

I don't really understand what you just wrote but this is the New World. New World is meant to make the rest of the Grand Line look like a toddlers playground. For Law to fuck up this much and not even be at Kadiou should surely mean death. The Strawhats will probable escape with the mera (or not, its really up for grabs though i think luffy will fail here aswell) but I can find no logical reason of how they could possible succeed given how Vastly under prepared they are for what Law has dragged them into.

your assuming that the plan is so far going off the rails, the plan was to destroy the factory and hand over Caesor (most likely negotiate wsomething with Dofla while doing so) the Straw Hats are currently closing in on the Factory, so as long as Law escapes theres no hitchs in the plan

but if Law dies here then there was no point having punk hazard except to introduce Kinemon

The thing is they have no leverage for laws plan to work. Laws plan involved the Admirals going after DD to allow for everything to go ahead. This VITAL part to the plan has backfired so instead of DD being the Marines target Law himself aswell as the strawhats are the targets of an admiral and the marines as well as DDs crew members. DD is in full control of everything now and showed how painfully unaware some of the new generation are of how big the difference between their journeys so far and what the people in the New World count as everyday business.

see what your doing is assuming things then passing it off as fact

we only know that Law wanted Dofla to renounce his position and was concerned when Dessrossa was bussiness as usual for all we know he jsut wantes Dessrossa in chaos to make attacking the factory easier

From everything Law has said about his plan to DD it is quite clear that he knew that were DD to denouce his postion Admirals would be sent deal with him, were he to fail in the SAD production Kadoiu would be after him. Everything in Laws plan was to make DD the enemy. This has failed in every single way possible. Im not sure how you can think everything is going according to plan when Law is being fodderized infront of DD and an Admiral, DDs crew are of messing with everyone and Luffy is in an arena with Burgress and others while his ship has been made useless.

if he destroys the Factory DD still has Kaidou to deal with at that point DD will probably be forced to have a converation with law and help him take down Kaidou

as long as the factory falls Law is in a solid position
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 20:51:47
September 20 2013 20:44 GMT
#9906
On September 21 2013 05:35 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 05:32 shark. wrote:
On September 21 2013 05:22 Forikorder wrote:
On September 21 2013 05:20 shark. wrote:
On September 21 2013 04:59 Forikorder wrote:
On September 21 2013 04:35 shark. wrote:
On September 21 2013 04:26 Forikorder wrote:
On September 21 2013 04:21 sc2holar wrote:
What part did law not explain? Make DD rewoke his warlord+king status so the WG sends their admirals after him. Find Factory, destroy it, while law makes the Exchange. It backfired completley. Law had his warlord status revoked because he was plain dumb and refused to call the strawhats his subordinates. Now luffy is trapped in the colosseum with the CP0 and marines sealing off the building and the Donquixote family overlooking the events, and law is getting shredded to pieces by DD while the Admiral looks on (though he is technically blind)

That is one mistake too many to survive in the new world imo. Especially when you are dealing with the guy Kuzan called the biggest threat since WBs death.

how about the part where all that related at all to taking down Kaidou?

I don't really understand what you just wrote but this is the New World. New World is meant to make the rest of the Grand Line look like a toddlers playground. For Law to fuck up this much and not even be at Kadiou should surely mean death. The Strawhats will probable escape with the mera (or not, its really up for grabs though i think luffy will fail here aswell) but I can find no logical reason of how they could possible succeed given how Vastly under prepared they are for what Law has dragged them into.

your assuming that the plan is so far going off the rails, the plan was to destroy the factory and hand over Caesor (most likely negotiate wsomething with Dofla while doing so) the Straw Hats are currently closing in on the Factory, so as long as Law escapes theres no hitchs in the plan

but if Law dies here then there was no point having punk hazard except to introduce Kinemon

The thing is they have no leverage for laws plan to work. Laws plan involved the Admirals going after DD to allow for everything to go ahead. This VITAL part to the plan has backfired so instead of DD being the Marines target Law himself aswell as the strawhats are the targets of an admiral and the marines as well as DDs crew members. DD is in full control of everything now and showed how painfully unaware some of the new generation are of how big the difference between their journeys so far and what the people in the New World count as everyday business.

see what your doing is assuming things then passing it off as fact

we only know that Law wanted Dofla to renounce his position and was concerned when Dessrossa was bussiness as usual for all we know he jsut wantes Dessrossa in chaos to make attacking the factory easier

From everything Law has said about his plan to DD it is quite clear that he knew that were DD to denouce his postion Admirals would be sent deal with him, were he to fail in the SAD production Kadoiu would be after him. Everything in Laws plan was to make DD the enemy. This has failed in every single way possible. Im not sure how you can think everything is going according to plan when Law is being fodderized infront of DD and an Admiral, DDs crew are of messing with everyone and Luffy is in an arena with Burgress and others while his ship has been made useless.

if he destroys the Factory DD still has Kaidou to deal with at that point DD will probably be forced to have a converation with law and help him take down Kaidou

as long as the factory falls Law is in a solid position


As long as he survives the raging DD and the Admiral waiting to take him in.

and all of this could have been avoided by simply stating "the strawhats are my subordinates". At least Luffy is stupid in a funny way but law you just wanna punch in the face.


Also, there is no solid evidence that kaido will kill DD if laws alliance destroys his factory. im sure DD got pissed when law made his demands because loosing CC would be bad for business, and having a guy you practicly adopted as a younger brother betray you like that is of course going to piss off anyone. Now as long as there is a CC around you can always make smile. When it comes to Kaido you are talking about a character we have never seen and know nothing about, he might be more reasonable than you think.
you no take candle
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 20:46:25
September 20 2013 20:44 GMT
#9907
On September 21 2013 05:35 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 05:32 shark. wrote:
On September 21 2013 05:22 Forikorder wrote:
On September 21 2013 05:20 shark. wrote:
On September 21 2013 04:59 Forikorder wrote:
On September 21 2013 04:35 shark. wrote:
On September 21 2013 04:26 Forikorder wrote:
On September 21 2013 04:21 sc2holar wrote:
What part did law not explain? Make DD rewoke his warlord+king status so the WG sends their admirals after him. Find Factory, destroy it, while law makes the Exchange. It backfired completley. Law had his warlord status revoked because he was plain dumb and refused to call the strawhats his subordinates. Now luffy is trapped in the colosseum with the CP0 and marines sealing off the building and the Donquixote family overlooking the events, and law is getting shredded to pieces by DD while the Admiral looks on (though he is technically blind)

That is one mistake too many to survive in the new world imo. Especially when you are dealing with the guy Kuzan called the biggest threat since WBs death.

how about the part where all that related at all to taking down Kaidou?

I don't really understand what you just wrote but this is the New World. New World is meant to make the rest of the Grand Line look like a toddlers playground. For Law to fuck up this much and not even be at Kadiou should surely mean death. The Strawhats will probable escape with the mera (or not, its really up for grabs though i think luffy will fail here aswell) but I can find no logical reason of how they could possible succeed given how Vastly under prepared they are for what Law has dragged them into.

your assuming that the plan is so far going off the rails, the plan was to destroy the factory and hand over Caesor (most likely negotiate wsomething with Dofla while doing so) the Straw Hats are currently closing in on the Factory, so as long as Law escapes theres no hitchs in the plan

but if Law dies here then there was no point having punk hazard except to introduce Kinemon

The thing is they have no leverage for laws plan to work. Laws plan involved the Admirals going after DD to allow for everything to go ahead. This VITAL part to the plan has backfired so instead of DD being the Marines target Law himself aswell as the strawhats are the targets of an admiral and the marines as well as DDs crew members. DD is in full control of everything now and showed how painfully unaware some of the new generation are of how big the difference between their journeys so far and what the people in the New World count as everyday business.

see what your doing is assuming things then passing it off as fact

we only know that Law wanted Dofla to renounce his position and was concerned when Dessrossa was bussiness as usual for all we know he jsut wantes Dessrossa in chaos to make attacking the factory easier

From everything Law has said about his plan to DD it is quite clear that he knew that were DD to denouce his postion Admirals would be sent deal with him, were he to fail in the SAD production Kadoiu would be after him. Everything in Laws plan was to make DD the enemy. This has failed in every single way possible. Im not sure how you can think everything is going according to plan when Law is being fodderized infront of DD and an Admiral, DDs crew are of messing with everyone and Luffy is in an arena with Burgress and others while his ship has been made useless.

if he destroys the Factory DD still has Kaidou to deal with at that point DD will probably be forced to have a converation with law and help him take down Kaidou

as long as the factory falls Law is in a solid position

"As long as the factory falls". This is the part where the fact DD isn't occupied and the straw hats are split up matters. There is no way that Factory is gonna down without the traditional arc fights going down. Law was = to luffy before the TS. I doubt much has changed there. DD is trolling Law who is a much smarter planner and fighter than luffy. DD doesn't seem like someone Luffy can just Friendship punch to victory over. The plan has failed unless you hoping for an insane plot twist. Jinbie and Law have both said that you either go with a yonkou or against them. Law and strawhats have gone against and their plan has failed hard without even making it to one of kadious crew. Law should die to prove this otherwise this may become a boring second half of OP imo.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 20 2013 20:47 GMT
#9908
As long as he survives the raging DD and the Admiral waiting to take him in.

and all of this could have been avoided by simply stating "the strawhats are my subordinates". At least Luffy is stupid in a funny way but law you just wanna punch in the face.


Laws not stupid just because we cant see the bigger picture doesnt mean he cant

Law was = to luffy before the TS


rofl

lets look at the facts OK?

we know that Law plans to take down Kaidou

we know that Kaidou is a big time customer of DD

we know that the above is only true while DD has the factory

we know that should the above become false Kaidou will attack DD

therefore if Law succeeds in destroying the Factory then DD can either fight Kaidou alone or team up with Law
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
September 20 2013 20:59 GMT
#9909
On September 21 2013 05:47 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
As long as he survives the raging DD and the Admiral waiting to take him in.

and all of this could have been avoided by simply stating "the strawhats are my subordinates". At least Luffy is stupid in a funny way but law you just wanna punch in the face.


Laws not stupid just because we cant see the bigger picture doesnt mean he cant

Show nested quote +
Law was = to luffy before the TS



we know that should the above become false Kaidou will attack DD

No we dont. if DD gets ceasar back, Kaido would be pretty damn retarded if he attacked DD since he will be able to resume SMILE production.

The Reason Law counted DD out was because of the admirals, not kaido. Its never said for sure that Kaido will go after DD if anything happens to the smile production. where are you getting that from?
you no take candle
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 21:05:04
September 20 2013 21:02 GMT
#9910
what i want to know about law right now is why he betrayed DD who apparently treated him like a little brother. Does he have something super personal against kaido?
you no take candle
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
September 20 2013 21:07 GMT
#9911
On September 21 2013 05:47 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
As long as he survives the raging DD and the Admiral waiting to take him in.

and all of this could have been avoided by simply stating "the strawhats are my subordinates". At least Luffy is stupid in a funny way but law you just wanna punch in the face.


Laws not stupid just because we cant see the bigger picture doesnt mean he cant

Show nested quote +
Law was = to luffy before the TS


rofl

lets look at the facts OK?

we know that Law plans to take down Kaidou

we know that Kaidou is a big time customer of DD

we know that the above is only true while DD has the factory

we know that should the above become false Kaidou will attack DD

therefore if Law succeeds in destroying the Factory then DD can either fight Kaidou alone or team up with Law

Well im not ever sure where to begin with this without mentioning what I or others have already said in this thread. Law nor the strawhats are in any position to demand anything, they will have to fight their way out of this till the very end. In this regard they are far outclassed even if it comes to DD and the Admiral. If you think Luffy is more powerful than Law or Kidd Pre or post timeskip well then ROFLMFAO nothing can save you.
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 21:10:07
September 20 2013 21:09 GMT
#9912
On September 21 2013 05:47 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
As long as he survives the raging DD and the Admiral waiting to take him in.

and all of this could have been avoided by simply stating "the strawhats are my subordinates". At least Luffy is stupid in a funny way but law you just wanna punch in the face.


Laws not stupid just because we cant see the bigger picture doesnt mean he cant


The bigger picture is that he lost his status has a warlord, then panicked and the next thing you know he is bleeding on the ground with a warlord and admiral standing around. his bigger picture looks grim
you no take candle
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 21:28:42
September 20 2013 21:23 GMT
#9913
The most stupid thing law has done was to not instantly kill CC by stabbing his heart when learning of DDs decievery. That would have ensured problems for both Kaido and DD even if he pays with his life. Why take the fight, once sanji told him he should have just killed CC and gotten the fuck out of there and try his best to find the factory with the other guys while walking around disguised in dressrosa. Instead of doing the OPPOSITE of what will benefit him, taking a 1on1 with doflamingo,
a guy WHO CAN CONTROL OTHER PEOPLES BODIES AND LIKE MAKE HIM GIVE HIM CCs HEART BACK! and now hes got absolutley nothing, and can look forward to being tortured to death by a guy in a pink flamingo boa.
you no take candle
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 20 2013 21:30 GMT
#9914
We don't even know Law's backstory yet.
We will and he will die not long after we find out why he's doing what he's doing---after Oda makes him a sympathetic character.
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 20 2013 21:32 GMT
#9915
No we dont. if DD gets ceasar back, Kaido would be pretty damn retarded if he attacked DD since he will be able to resume SMILE production.

The Reason Law counted DD out was because of the admirals, not kaido. Its never said for sure that Kaido will go after DD if anything happens to the smile production. where are you getting that from?


no factory, no Sads, no smiles that means Kaidou is pissed

Kaidou might not be willing to be lenient jsut because they might be able to rebuild given enough time

Well im not ever sure where to begin with this without mentioning what I or others have already said in this thread. Law nor the strawhats are in any position to demand anything, they will have to fight their way out of this till the very end. In this regard they are far outclassed even if it comes to DD and the Admiral. If you think Luffy is more powerful than Law or Kidd Pre or post timeskip well then ROFLMFAO nothing can save you.


there not in a position right now but times change

anyone who thinks Laws plan has failed before its even revealed willh ave a big i told you so coming
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
September 20 2013 21:35 GMT
#9916
On September 21 2013 06:32 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
No we dont. if DD gets ceasar back, Kaido would be pretty damn retarded if he attacked DD since he will be able to resume SMILE production.

The Reason Law counted DD out was because of the admirals, not kaido. Its never said for sure that Kaido will go after DD if anything happens to the smile production. where are you getting that from?


no factory, no Sads, no smiles that means Kaidou is pissed

Kaidou might not be willing to be lenient jsut because they might be able to rebuild given enough time

Show nested quote +
Well im not ever sure where to begin with this without mentioning what I or others have already said in this thread. Law nor the strawhats are in any position to demand anything, they will have to fight their way out of this till the very end. In this regard they are far outclassed even if it comes to DD and the Admiral. If you think Luffy is more powerful than Law or Kidd Pre or post timeskip well then ROFLMFAO nothing can save you.


there not in a position right now but times change

anyone who thinks Laws plan has failed before its even revealed willh ave a big i told you so coming

Laws plan has been revealed, hense why he is sweating and covered in blood infront of an Admiral and DD with its failure, no?
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 20 2013 21:39 GMT
#9917
On September 21 2013 06:35 shark. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 06:32 Forikorder wrote:
No we dont. if DD gets ceasar back, Kaido would be pretty damn retarded if he attacked DD since he will be able to resume SMILE production.

The Reason Law counted DD out was because of the admirals, not kaido. Its never said for sure that Kaido will go after DD if anything happens to the smile production. where are you getting that from?


no factory, no Sads, no smiles that means Kaidou is pissed

Kaidou might not be willing to be lenient jsut because they might be able to rebuild given enough time

Well im not ever sure where to begin with this without mentioning what I or others have already said in this thread. Law nor the strawhats are in any position to demand anything, they will have to fight their way out of this till the very end. In this regard they are far outclassed even if it comes to DD and the Admiral. If you think Luffy is more powerful than Law or Kidd Pre or post timeskip well then ROFLMFAO nothing can save you.


there not in a position right now but times change

anyone who thinks Laws plan has failed before its even revealed willh ave a big i told you so coming

Laws plan has been revealed, hense why he is sweating and covered in blood infront of an Admiral and DD with its failure, no?

okay then explain how he takes down Kaidou
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
September 20 2013 21:46 GMT
#9918
Whats the matter with this fork guy seriously. complete law fanboy or what? if DD can resume smile production shortly after a slight delay, how stupid would kaidou have to be to kill him just because there was unforseen problems with a backstabbing former ally? why are you assuming that he will do the thing that benefits him the least? im assuming he will want more smiles as a way higher priority than getting silly revenge for "failing him". If this was the case there was no need to get CC, could have gone straight to Dressrosa and looked for the factory and wait for kaidou to kill DD!

and again Law is in the worst shape hes ever been through. He knows it, but you deny it. he lost his position as a warlord, he has a warlord and admiral against him, he knows luffy is stuck in the colloseum trap (he doesnt even know that the other members are going for the factory) and he missed his window to kill ceasar and ensure a part victory.
you no take candle
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
September 20 2013 21:48 GMT
#9919
On September 21 2013 06:39 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 06:35 shark. wrote:
On September 21 2013 06:32 Forikorder wrote:
No we dont. if DD gets ceasar back, Kaido would be pretty damn retarded if he attacked DD since he will be able to resume SMILE production.

The Reason Law counted DD out was because of the admirals, not kaido. Its never said for sure that Kaido will go after DD if anything happens to the smile production. where are you getting that from?


no factory, no Sads, no smiles that means Kaidou is pissed

Kaidou might not be willing to be lenient jsut because they might be able to rebuild given enough time

Well im not ever sure where to begin with this without mentioning what I or others have already said in this thread. Law nor the strawhats are in any position to demand anything, they will have to fight their way out of this till the very end. In this regard they are far outclassed even if it comes to DD and the Admiral. If you think Luffy is more powerful than Law or Kidd Pre or post timeskip well then ROFLMFAO nothing can save you.


there not in a position right now but times change

anyone who thinks Laws plan has failed before its even revealed willh ave a big i told you so coming

Laws plan has been revealed, hense why he is sweating and covered in blood infront of an Admiral and DD with its failure, no?

okay then explain how he takes down Kaidou

Law doesn't. Maybe even luffy doesn't. Just because someone holds power doesn't mean that Luffy must defeat them. Oda says we are half way through the story. If luffy defeats a yonkou within the next 2 arcs then we are in for a disappointing 10 years even if oda is at the helm.
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
September 20 2013 21:53 GMT
#9920
On September 21 2013 06:39 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 06:35 shark. wrote:
On September 21 2013 06:32 Forikorder wrote:
No we dont. if DD gets ceasar back, Kaido would be pretty damn retarded if he attacked DD since he will be able to resume SMILE production.

The Reason Law counted DD out was because of the admirals, not kaido. Its never said for sure that Kaido will go after DD if anything happens to the smile production. where are you getting that from?


no factory, no Sads, no smiles that means Kaidou is pissed

Kaidou might not be willing to be lenient jsut because they might be able to rebuild given enough time

Well im not ever sure where to begin with this without mentioning what I or others have already said in this thread. Law nor the strawhats are in any position to demand anything, they will have to fight their way out of this till the very end. In this regard they are far outclassed even if it comes to DD and the Admiral. If you think Luffy is more powerful than Law or Kidd Pre or post timeskip well then ROFLMFAO nothing can save you.


there not in a position right now but times change

anyone who thinks Laws plan has failed before its even revealed willh ave a big i told you so coming

Laws plan has been revealed, hense why he is sweating and covered in blood infront of an Admiral and DD with its failure, no?

okay then explain how he takes down Kaidou

Yes, very good question. How does he take Kaidou when he is about to either get killed by DD or taken into impel down by the Admiral. Either way, his plan on how to deal with DD failed so lets not rush ahead and talk about kaidou.

Are you drunk? you are rambling about things that have nothing to do with the current situation. did you think law PLANNED for this to happen and that this is part of his plan to take down kaidou?

Law thought Doflamingo was "Done for" and that he had him cornered. Turns out the next thing you know his plan FAILED because doflamingo outsmarted him and he lost his warlord status.

His plans on dealing with kaidou is not relevant at the moment. whats important for law right now is to survive for another minute or two.
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