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Currently the impression I get is that he's the strongest character introduced thus far, probably by quite a margin. He's just toying around and never serious. Hopefully we will have an arc focused on him in the future instead of him just boringly being some sort of a final boss for Zoro --
Then why is he not a yonko? hes just a schichibukai, and aokiji said that doflamingo was the most powerful schichibukai and one of the most powerful pirates in the world. Law said that if Doflamingo resigned his position as a warlord, the world government would send all their admirals after him because he is so powerful and dangerous,
The strongest characters in OP at the moment are the Yonkos and the Admirals.
Well, Moria was said to fight equally with Kaidou, Mihawk with Shanks
so we don't really know. Blackbeard was a Shichibukai too, for his own reasons, and now he's a Yonkou. It might just be that they don't have the aspiration or something. That and the Shichibukai don't seem to have a crew. Being a lone super powerful guy doesn't cut it to be a Yonkou. Whitebeard for example had a huge following and crew, Kaidou is said to have an army of Devil Fruit users under his command and several islands supporting him, etc.
There's certainly a lot more to it than "this guy is stronger so he's a Yonkou"
The thing is that Mihawk has never displayed anything extrordinary. he fought evenly with Vista, and his slash was stopped by jozu without taking damage. He failed to stop luffy from reaching the execution platform. the "HE WASNT SERIOUS" exuse is not valid, because its pure speculation, and mihawk is one of the most serious characters in the manga so it wouldnt make sense for him to joke around and not fight seriously.
People overestimate Mihawks strenght because they like swordmen characters, and he looks "SUPER COOL!".
We could see during the Thriller Bark arc, and even more during the "timeskip arc" that Oda has really changed: 1. The goal of Zoro (he puts Luffy's dream before his own) 2. The purpose of Mihawk: from being the end target to being a teacher.
For me, Mihawk is to Zoro what Rayleigh is to Luffy. Obviously there are differences, because One Piece is not that boring, but on a storytelling level, they are quite similar. Most likely Zoro will fight Mihawk in a student - master duel setting, but that would be BEFORE the final all out clash between Luffy's crew and Blackbeard's crew.
For Mihawk to be Zoro's final boss, there must be a lot of tension, and there won't be any unless Mihawk turns out super evil. Given Mihawk's carefree personality and that Oda is not a moron, sorry to disappoint you guys, but it's not going to happen.
At the end of OP when all is said and done, I picture easily Mihawk and Zoro having the same relationship Mihawk and Shanks used to have.
But final boss? no. Regardless of how powerful one think he is. It's just about storytelling.
and aokiji said that doflamingo was the most powerful schichibukai and one of the most powerful pirates in the world.
He said hes prowess as a pirate was unrivaled, not really anything about fighting power.
On August 10 2013 23:48 sc2holar wrote: The thing is that Mihawk has never displayed anything extrordinary.
That can be said by quite a lot of supposedly strong characters.
I always got the vibe that he was one of the most powerful characters in the One Piece world, but we'll see ,anywho i'm looking forward to see him in action.
I'm of the opinion that Mihawk just doesn't care too much about most things to go all-out. While he's serious at all times, he's not actively using his full power due to whatever reason. Perhaps he did so with Shanks in the past during their bouts, but since Shanks lost his arm he's not really been keen on fighting him as he sees him as weaker now. During the marineford battle Mihawk pretty much only fought because he was 'obligated' to do so. He didn't seem to care much who would be the victor in the end, as evident when he just up and left when Shanks and co. arrived. He's just not interested in all their crap. If he had a particular end goal in mind he wouldn't just drift around on his little boat. He just is, at the moment, I'd argue. Then again, we don't really know that much about him.
Maybe if his life was threatened he'd go all-out, but so far I can't say it has been.
Why are we certain that Mihawk is the final boss of Zoro? What happens if it turns out to be Shiryuu, or even Helmeppo? Couldn't Blackbeard or Coby be Luffy's final boss?
I see your point, and maybe you are right, its just in the context to what Akoiji said, it seemed more like exceptional smarts and skill as a pirate, gainining influence within the government, tenryuubito and the underworld, and becomeing powerfull in that way.
But if we say fighting abilitys as a pirate unrivaled, that would make him the strongest pirate in One Piece, then why is he not a Yonkou already :p ?
I dont think Doflamingo wants to be a yonko, he is already king of a nice island and incredibly rich. From what we have see so far he seems to be the kind of person who likes to enjoy his privelages and just sit back and relax, listening to music records and drinking ice tea. He also doesnt seem to be that interested in fighting and he lets his subordinates fight his battles. Remember that he could have flied to Punk Hazard at any time and prevent the heart+strawhat pirates from capturing ceasar clown, but he trusted his subordinates to do the work for him. Also, remember that the "new era pirates" opposse the idea of dreams.
no offence do you read the same manga? you are partly right. He probaly doenst want to be a yonko. He is more like the Joker in batman. He enjoys chaos. Surely he wants power. But he seems more like a bored kid, which trys to put the world in anarchy, where so strongest have the most freedom.
Sorry, but Mihawk is the most overrated character in One Piece, he hasn't actually beat anyone noteworthy, yet people constantly put him in the same league as Yonko/Admiral. "But he's Zoro's final boss, he must be STRONG!" or "He never actually tries in any of his fights" is not a good argument.
On August 11 2013 08:35 SoulTakerz wrote: Sorry, but Mihawk is the most overrated character in One Piece, he hasn't actually beat anyone noteworthy, yet people constantly put him in the same league as Yonko/Admiral. "But he's Zoro's final boss, he must be STRONG!" or "He never actually tries in any of his fights" is not a good argument.
Going toe-to-toe with Shanks is a pretty big tell.
On August 11 2013 08:35 SoulTakerz wrote: Sorry, but Mihawk is the most overrated character in One Piece, he hasn't actually beat anyone noteworthy, yet people constantly put him in the same league as Yonko/Admiral. "But he's Zoro's final boss, he must be STRONG!" or "He never actually tries in any of his fights" is not a good argument.
Going toe-to-toe with Shanks is a pretty big tell.
We dont know anything about shanks and mihawks past quarrels. And even if he fought evenly, it was SWORDPLAY. Being skilled with swords is really not that useful in the one piece world.
On August 11 2013 08:35 SoulTakerz wrote: Sorry, but Mihawk is the most overrated character in One Piece, he hasn't actually beat anyone noteworthy, yet people constantly put him in the same league as Yonko/Admiral. "But he's Zoro's final boss, he must be STRONG!" or "He never actually tries in any of his fights" is not a good argument.
Going toe-to-toe with Shanks is a pretty big tell.
this is Probably the best argument out there as to how strong Mihawk actually is. But you gotta remember that: 1. We don't know for sure that Shanks fight primarily with a sword. Mihawk going toe to toe with Shanks with swords doesnt mean Mihawk is as strong as Shanks. 2. We're talking about the Shanks before he loses his arm to a random sea monster in the east blue, I doubt Shank is anywhere near as strong then compare to now.
What would you choose, being made of pure light; being able to move and attack at the speed of light and fire energy beams with your fingertips that is powerful enough to destroy a huge battleship. Or being made of Darkness and be able to create black holes. Or be able to control other people like puppets and make them kill themselves. OR would you rather be the worlds best swordman? and be able to... well, cut and slice things.
There are like 5 named and important characters in the manga who are swordmen. So the title doesnt really mean that much
On August 11 2013 08:35 SoulTakerz wrote: Sorry, but Mihawk is the most overrated character in One Piece, he hasn't actually beat anyone noteworthy, yet people constantly put him in the same league as Yonko/Admiral. "But he's Zoro's final boss, he must be STRONG!" or "He never actually tries in any of his fights" is not a good argument.
Going toe-to-toe with Shanks is a pretty big tell.
We dont know anything about shanks and mihawks past quarrels. And even if he fought evenly, it was SWORDPLAY. Being skilled with swords is really not that useful in the one piece world.
How can you say that? If you actually watch sword fights it has become quite obvious that Swords are far beyond the point of "just being swords". Just look at this video:
As i see it, being skilled with a Sword is almost equal to being a DF user. Keep in mind that Zoro is starting to surpass Logia-users.
EDIT: Also i think that it is quite obvious in this video that Mihawk atleast had the potential to make a big difference at Marineford
Rayleigh fought with a sword (and haki), too, remember. That should speak for itself regarding how strong swordmanship can be in the OP universe. DF isn't everything.
On August 11 2013 10:18 sumsaR wrote: Rayleigh fought with a sword (and haki), too, remember. That should speak for itself regarding how strong swordmanship can be in the OP universe. DF isn't everything.
Shanks is a damned yonkou and he uses a sword. I think its fair to say that swordplay can be SUPER effective in One Piece. With Haki, there really isn't a fighting style that can't be effective.
That being said, Mihawk is probably up there in power level. Dueling with Shanks is pretty badass, he may not be as powerful with regards to haki as Shanks is, but its fair to assume that Mihawk is someone to look forward to some incredible badassery from in the future.
EDIT: Even in that video, seems like Mihawk is some pretty hot shit in the One Piece world, theres no way he CAN'T be way up there in power level. :D
EPT
,anywho i'm looking forward to see him in action.
