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On August 11 2013 06:34 Peden wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2013 03:29 sc2holar wrote:On August 11 2013 01:21 Peden wrote:On August 10 2013 23:33 sc2holar wrote:
and aokiji said that doflamingo was the most powerful schichibukai and one of the most powerful pirates in the world. He said hes prowess as a pirate was unrivaled, not really anything about fighting power. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/prowess1.
exceptional valor, bravery, or ability, especially in combat or battle.
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exceptional or superior ability, skill, or strength:prowess = strenght in battle I see your point, and maybe you are right, its just in the context to what Akoiji said, it seemed more like exceptional smarts and skill as a pirate, gainining influence within the government, tenryuubito and the underworld, and becomeing powerfull in that way. But if we say fighting abilitys as a pirate unrivaled, that would make him the strongest pirate in One Piece, then why is he not a Yonkou already :p ?
It's a translation -.- Why would you argue about what a translation means? What's the original line...
Also in the video posted in the last page, you SERIOUSLY are saying that it's speculation that he's not using his full strenght there? -.-
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I love the mihawk character and im going to reread the whitebeard fight but he seemed to be vice admiral/1or2captain in terms of power (which is very strong) .
Mihawk also doesnt appear to be the type that tries to fool people into believing he is weaker than he actually.
Regarding Swordsmanship:
I think in Onepiece it doesnt matter how you fight. Swords Axes Hammer Sniper hands Legs or your fucking Headbuts makes no difference.
All that matters in Onepiece is willpower/determination/training. The manifestation of those traits is haki.
The Haki of the conquerer seems to be the big expections since you must be born with it, so it seems at least for now.
This is very interesting, because it stands in contrast to the normal haki that everything can achieve with enough determination.
Without the Conquerer Haki Once pieve would be a world very everyone is born equal and has equal chances to become powerful depending on your hard work.
This "one in a million" haki introduces inequality/unjustice to OncePiece in terms of power.
I might have gone offtopic.
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On August 10 2013 23:48 sc2holar wrote:
The thing is that Mihawk has never displayed anything extrordinary. he fought evenly with Vista, and his slash was stopped by jozu without taking damage. He failed to stop luffy from reaching the execution platform. the "HE WASNT SERIOUS" exuse is not valid, because its pure speculation, and mihawk is one of the most serious characters in the manga so it wouldnt make sense for him to joke around and not fight seriously.
People overestimate Mihawks strenght because they like swordmen characters, and he looks "SUPER COOL!".
Dude you're just ignoring everyone explaining why you're wrong and then you're using your own feelings on the matter to argue that you're right and not them. There's not a lot of information or facts surrounding Mihawk but of what there is, is that he doesn't seem to have any great ambitions and just wants to be the best. He's very chill and relaxed most of the time. That all points to the reasoning that he WASNT fighting at FULL POWER. How are you not getting this?
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He's just confusing 'being serious' with 'going all out at all times'.
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On August 11 2013 03:29 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2013 01:21 Peden wrote:On August 10 2013 23:33 sc2holar wrote:
and aokiji said that doflamingo was the most powerful schichibukai and one of the most powerful pirates in the world. He said hes prowess as a pirate was unrivaled, not really anything about fighting power. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/prowess1.
exceptional valor, bravery, or ability, especially in combat or battle.
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exceptional or superior ability, skill, or strength:prowess = strenght in battle
prowess as a fighter, yes, but a pirate isnt only a fighter, you could say Buggy has great prowess as a pirate since hes got such a powerful crew
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This discussion isnt leading to anything constructive. Instead i would like to ask, which devil fruit do you guys think is the strongest, NOT counting blackbeards darkness fruit?
personaly i have to go with kizarus pika pika no mi. Being able to move, strike and teleport at the speed of light aswell as fire super destructive energy beams that create massive explosions is pretty damn powerful. and being able to transform into pure light is pretty cool.
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
Oh god, this can only lead to one thing
ENEL
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Light>Lightning. Many characters would be immune to Enels lightning because their element does not absorb electricity. Luffy, Crocodile, Smoker, Akainu, Kizaru to name a few.
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Pls don't start this again
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
Hahahahahaha, I like to watch the world burn
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On August 11 2013 18:09 sc2holar wrote:
This discussion isnt leading to anything constructive. Instead i would like to ask, which devil fruit do you guys think is the strongest, NOT counting blackbeards darkness fruit?
personaly i have to go with kizarus pika pika no mi. Being able to move, strike and teleport at the speed of light aswell as fire super destructive energy beams that create massive explosions is pretty damn powerful. and being able to transform into pure light is pretty cool.
I'd go with Kuma's fruit. It's not even teleporting at light speed, it's instantly moving. He can redirect anything coming at him as long as he saw it coming. He can make air pressure bomb (that didn't kill anyone due to shonen but yeah). He can teleport people wherever he wants and heal injuries. Pretty OP imho.
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On August 11 2013 18:09 sc2holar wrote:
This discussion isnt leading to anything constructive. Instead i would like to ask, which devil fruit do you guys think is the strongest, NOT counting blackbeards darkness fruit?
personaly i have to go with kizarus pika pika no mi. Being able to move, strike and teleport at the speed of light aswell as fire super destructive energy beams that create massive explosions is pretty damn powerful. and being able to transform into pure light is pretty cool.
I would go with the Mystic Zoan Fruit Phoenix:
1: You can fly
2: You can transform
3: You can regenerate
I think if you give the man with the strongest haki this fruit, he is really immortal^^
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On August 11 2013 19:01 Big-t wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2013 18:09 sc2holar wrote:
This discussion isnt leading to anything constructive. Instead i would like to ask, which devil fruit do you guys think is the strongest, NOT counting blackbeards darkness fruit?
personaly i have to go with kizarus pika pika no mi. Being able to move, strike and teleport at the speed of light aswell as fire super destructive energy beams that create massive explosions is pretty damn powerful. and being able to transform into pure light is pretty cool. I would go with the Mystic Zoan Fruit Phoenix: 1: You can fly 2: You can transform 3: You can regenerate I think if you give the man with the strongest haki this fruit, he is really immortal^^
Was about to say that. its the only fruit that makes the user truly invincible since even if you strike him with haki, his wounds always regenerate.
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On August 11 2013 18:58 Razhil wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2013 18:09 sc2holar wrote:
This discussion isnt leading to anything constructive. Instead i would like to ask, which devil fruit do you guys think is the strongest, NOT counting blackbeards darkness fruit?
personaly i have to go with kizarus pika pika no mi. Being able to move, strike and teleport at the speed of light aswell as fire super destructive energy beams that create massive explosions is pretty damn powerful. and being able to transform into pure light is pretty cool. I'd go with Kuma's fruit. It's not even teleporting at light speed, it's instantly moving. He can redirect anything coming at him as long as he saw it coming. He can make air pressure bomb (that didn't kill anyone due to shonen but yeah). He can teleport people wherever he wants and heal injuries. Pretty OP imho.
Kizaru is faster than Kuma. Kuma does not instantly move, he uses his paws to push himself through the air, but there is no way he moves faster than the speed of light.
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On August 11 2013 06:50 sc2holar wrote:
I dont think Doflamingo wants to be a yonko, he is already king of a nice island and incredibly rich. From what we have see so far he seems to be the kind of person who likes to enjoy his privelages and just sit back and relax, listening to music records and drinking ice tea. He also doesnt seem to be that interested in fighting and he lets his subordinates fight his battles. Remember that he could have flied to Punk Hazard at any time and prevent the heart+strawhat pirates from capturing ceasar clown, but he trusted his subordinates to do the work for him. Also, remember that the "new era pirates" opposse the idea of dreams.
DoFlamingo wants to be Pirate King, not so much "sitting back and relax"
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Today I'm going fishing alone in this big big pond, I find it oddly entertaining.
Btw it's obvious Enel doesn't stand a chance against any of the new world pirates and he barely has vision haki so he would just be another pirate.
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
Cloud wants to watch the world burn too
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On August 11 2013 20:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Cloud wants to watch the world burn too
No seriously, there's a reason he was in skipiea and not later in the manga. Plus he has no bounty, and bounty is a pretty accurate power level indicator so far.
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On August 11 2013 20:10 aTnClouD wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2013 20:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Cloud wants to watch the world burn too No seriously, there's a reason he was in skipiea and not later in the manga. Plus he has no bounty, and bounty is a pretty accurate power level indicator so far.
Bounty isn't really an indicator as far as Enel is concerned. He has always been in the sky, on an island unknown to most of the people down there.
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